Article: Russia and China warn US that an Israeli attack on Iran means world war...

[El Kabong]

Maybe if Americans didn't wet the bed over things like Saddam and his fearsome weapons of mass destruction and their government go off and kill a million Iraqis then Middle Eastern people would feel less inclined to fly planes into buildings. They've had fifty years of miserable repression at the hands of the US, maybe if they hadn't had that it's unlikely that they'd be so upset. If North Carolina had been transported into Jordan, for instance, one of the nastiest secret police states over there and one whose regime is propped up by US military/security/diplomatic aid for half a century now, but we change "US" to say Iranian or Pakistani, how would you feel if your rulers were doing the exact opposite of what you wanted at the behest and control of the Iranians/Pakistanis?

We're just protecting our Allies as we always have done....we eventually came to the aid of France and England, but Germany and Italy didn't go suicide bombing us afterwards. We totally flattened Japan but they took it and now look at them, they are our good buddies!

Here are some words for the people of Iran, and any other country that loves posturing against the US...GROW UP, we're the super power, so you have oil and you feel used because everyone is paying you millions of dollars to take it off your hands, oh boo fucking hoo. I would say when life hands you lemons make lemonade but Jesus, life has handed you a never ending supply of oil which you can use to become rich as hell and yet all you do is suicide bomb innocent people....WTF There are many more fun things to do with money other than build bombs and start wars.

[Gandalf]

Maybe if Americans didn't wet the bed over things like Saddam and his fearsome weapons of mass destruction and their government go off and kill a million Iraqis then Middle Eastern people would feel less inclined to fly planes into buildings. They've had fifty years of miserable repression at the hands of the US, maybe if they hadn't had that it's unlikely that they'd be so upset. If North Carolina had been transported into Jordan, for instance, one of the nastiest secret police states over there and one whose regime is propped up by US military/security/diplomatic aid for half a century now, but we change "US" to say Iranian or Pakistani, how would you feel if your rulers were doing the exact opposite of what you wanted at the behest and control of the Iranians/Pakistanis?

We're just protecting our Allies as we always have done....we eventually came to the aid of France and England, but Germany and Italy didn't go suicide bombing us afterwards. We totally flattened Japan but they took it and now look at them, they are our good buddies!

Here are some words for the people of Iran, and any other country that loves posturing against the US...GROW UP, we're the super power, so you have oil and you feel used because everyone is paying you millions of dollars to take it off your hands, oh boo fucking hoo. I would say when life hands you lemons make lemonade but Jesus, life has handed you a never ending supply of oil which you can use to become rich as hell and yet all you do is suicide bomb innocent people....WTF There are many more fun things to do with money other than build bombs and start wars.

So says the spokesman of the nation that seems to have been in more wars than any other since WW2. All America seems to do is build nuclear weapons and start wars. Pot calling kettle black....

[El Kabong]

So says the spokesman of the nation that seems to have been in more wars than any other since WW2. All America seems to do is build nuclear weapons and start wars. Pot calling kettle black....

Is it our fault we have so many Allies?

As for nukes, we're responsible with our toys, Iran doesn't play nice...we very well could nuke whoever goes against us, but we're the good guys and countries like Iran, North Korea, and anyone else who wants to be a loudmouth keep needling us, it makes it hard to be nice...in all honesty I think we've been extremely patient and responsible with our foreign policy in regards to wars.

[Gandalf]

So says the spokesman of the nation that seems to have been in more wars than any other since WW2. All America seems to do is build nuclear weapons and start wars. Pot calling kettle black....

Is it our fault we have so many Allies?

As for nukes, we're responsible with our toys, Iran doesn't play nice...we very well could nuke whoever goes against us, but we're the good guys and countries like Iran, North Korea, and anyone else who wants to be a loudmouth keep needling us, it makes it hard to be nice...in all honesty I think we've been extremely patient and responsible with our foreign policy in regards to wars.

Just bomb the North Koreans and get it over with. It's the only country that annoys me less that South Korea.

[Nameless]

So says the spokesman of the nation that seems to have been in more wars than any other since WW2. All America seems to do is build nuclear weapons and start wars. Pot calling kettle black....

Is it our fault we have so many Allies?

As for nukes, we're responsible with our toys, Iran doesn't play nice...we very well could nuke whoever goes against us, but we're the good guys and countries like Iran, North Korea, and anyone else who wants to be a loudmouth keep needling us, it makes it hard to be nice...in all honesty I think we've been extremely patient and responsible with our foreign policy in regards to wars.

Well, I could name a lot of places where US didn't play nice at all and did overthrow some democratic regimes because it did serve their interests... Consider that in the past 50 years, the US has been the country that was involved in the biggest number of wars too, more than often where they didn't belong just to serve their interests. Also, it's not because you have the power to nuke somebody that you can do so, the system of international relationships is a bit more complicated than that Lyle.

[Kirkland Laing]

Maybe if Americans didn't wet the bed over things like Saddam and his fearsome weapons of mass destruction and their government go off and kill a million Iraqis then Middle Eastern people would feel less inclined to fly planes into buildings. They've had fifty years of miserable repression at the hands of the US, maybe if they hadn't had that it's unlikely that they'd be so upset. If North Carolina had been transported into Jordan, for instance, one of the nastiest secret police states over there and one whose regime is propped up by US military/security/diplomatic aid for half a century now, but we change "US" to say Iranian or Pakistani, how would you feel if your rulers were doing the exact opposite of what you wanted at the behest and control of the Iranians/Pakistanis?

We're just protecting our Allies as we always have done....we eventually came to the aid of France and England, but Germany and Italy didn't go suicide bombing us afterwards. We totally flattened Japan but they took it and now look at them, they are our good buddies!

Here are some words for the people of Iran, and any other country that loves posturing against the US...GROW UP, we're the super power, so you have oil and you feel used because everyone is paying you millions of dollars to take it off your hands, oh boo fucking hoo. I would say when life hands you lemons make lemonade but Jesus, life has handed you a never ending supply of oil which you can use to become rich as hell and yet all you do is suicide bomb innocent people....WTF There are many more fun things to do with money other than build bombs and start wars.

You weren't protecting any allies when you overthrew a democratically elected secular government in Iran in 1953 and propped a dictator up there till 1979. You're not protecting any allies by propping up all the current Arab dictators, you're maintaining control of the region's oil.


life has handed you a never ending supply of oil which you can use to become rich as hell and yet all you do is suicide bomb innocent people....WTF There are many more fun things to do with money other than build bombs and start wars.

Other than the word "suicide" this is a good description of the situation in America.

[VictorCharlie]

Man I sure am glad I have this forum so I can have people who are not US citizens, don't live here and don't vote for our leaders tell me on a regular basis what a crappy country I live in and how they really know what is best for my nation.

[Andre]

We have a right to bear arms!
That means we have a right to sell the old shit and then try out the new shit on the idots that bought the old shit from us.

Its a win win so far. We win , hey great we won again!

Wonder how many more single wins we got, until they all gang up on us?

[Gandalf]

Man I sure am glad I have this forum so I can have people who are not US citizens, don't live here and don't vote for our leaders tell me on a regular basis what a crappy country I live in and how they really know what is best for my nation.

Does one really need a US passport, a US residence and a redundant vote to make an informed decision about US society and politics? Surely there are huge swathes of US people with those "qualifications" who are totally ignorant about the important historical evolution US foreign policy and the party poltical system. In this regard a great number of "ousiders" are probably far more qualified to pass judgement on the US.

Everybody is entitled to their opinion about something no matter where they are from, just as long as it is an informed opinion.

[VictorCharlie]

Opinions are like assholes Miles...everyone has them...But if it makes you feel better I will start making daily posts about what piece of shit country the UK is and how if you'd just listen to me and some other "informed" Americans you could really turn it around. I pointed out not being a citizen, living here or voting b/c that makes you a non factor and the 300 million of us that are here don't give a shit what you think much like the entire UK would feel about any "informed" American espousing their opinions.

[Gandalf]

Opinions are like assholes Miles...everyone has them...But if it makes you feel better I will start making daily posts about what piece of shit country the UK is and how if you'd just listen to me and some other "informed" Americans you could really turn it around. I pointed out not being a citizen, living here or voting b/c that makes you a non factor and the 300 million of us that are here don't give a shit what you think much like the entire UK would feel about any "informed" American espousing their opinions.

Yep, everyone has them....

You could start criticising the UK and saying how shit it is....but I would probably only agree with you. I have no issues with people commenting on my country for good or bad. In fact, I like to hear opinions and the opinions of outsiders are just as interesting to me as those who own that cherished purple passport. Whether they can vote or not really has no bearing on the issue. And even those with the cherished passports are typically too lazy to vote anyway....and are probably so dull and apathetic that don't really have much of an opinion to listen to. Give me the informed outsiders over the uninformed insiders anyday!

[boozeboxer]

what has happened to Von Milash?

[VictorCharlie]

Opinions are like assholes Miles...everyone has them...But if it makes you feel better I will start making daily posts about what piece of shit country the UK is and how if you'd just listen to me and some other "informed" Americans you could really turn it around. I pointed out not being a citizen, living here or voting b/c that makes you a non factor and the 300 million of us that are here don't give a shit what you think much like the entire UK would feel about any "informed" American espousing their opinions.

Yep, everyone has them....

You could start criticising the UK and saying how shit it is....but I would probably only agree with you. I have no issues with people commenting on my country for good or bad. In fact, I like to hear opinions and the opinions of outsiders are just as interesting to me as those who own that cherished purple passport. Whether they can vote or not really has no bearing on the issue. And even those with the cherished passports are typically too lazy to vote anyway....and are probably so dull and apathetic that don't really have much of an opinion to listen to. Give me the informed outsiders over the uninformed insiders anyday!

Fair enough you cynical bastard but I was really speaking more to Kirk. You are never shy to share an opinion but spread your negativity all the way around. Mr Laing doesn't take it nearly as well as he dishes it out.

[Kirkland Laing]

Opinions are like assholes Miles...everyone has them...But if it makes you feel better I will start making daily posts about what piece of shit country the UK is and how if you'd just listen to me and some other "informed" Americans you could really turn it around. I pointed out not being a citizen, living here or voting b/c that makes you a non factor and the 300 million of us that are here don't give a shit what you think much like the entire UK would feel about any "informed" American espousing their opinions.

America isn't a shit country, it's a lovely country, a lovely place to live. As is Britain. But America's foreign policy is horrific, especially when contrasted with the image of America as the world's foremost upholder of freedom, human rights etc. And so is Britain's! I personally don't give a monkeys if somebody has something negative to say about Britain. I may agree, I may not, but that person has the right to express themselves. Freedom of expression being one of the things western societies are supposed to stand for.

[VictorCharlie]

Kirk honestly can you name any nation who is a major player in the world and has a good history of foreign policy? You still jump at every opportunity to preach at the American's on the site about how bad our nation is and how you have all our answers. You don't really take it as well as you dish it out either. You went ape shit when I implied that much of Iraq's ethnic issues stem from the borders and government put in place by the British in 1921. I fully support your freedom to express anything your dear little heart wants. I don't think I ever said otherwise in my post, but in turn I am free to tell you to kiss my American ass when you run your trap.