Nigel Benn vs. Tito Trinidad at 160

[Violent Demise]

Trinidad was not as effective at 160 as he was 154 and 147.

Benn KO.

And Benn was? Except for beating Iran Barkley (who came in having lost his last 2) he did nothing else. Unless you call getting knocked out by Watson and Eubanks doing something

[Hulk]

I believe Nigel Benn beat Doug Dewitt and Robbie Simms at 160 as well.

And Iran Barkely is a MUCH bigger man than Tito Trinidad.

He had straight punches too.

And was knocked down 3 times and stopped in one round.

[Spicoli]

Think these hypotheticals get a bit blurred.Couple of weeks ago it was Toney vs. Holyfield at cruiserweight.......Have to take into account the tremendous difference in experience of each guy at the moment in time.The hypo is really loaded in one direction

Benn was a what?2,3 year pro at middle and Tito by the time he reached 160 had a decade + under his belt.And although he smashed Joppy,I still say he was not a middleweight and had done nothing else there.Also maturity as a fighter,Benn at 160 was in his pure destruct and come forward days but would go on to add some nice boxing and patients down the stretch......perhaps learned best from punching himself out vs. Watson and Eubanks in the first go.

Going against that,I still say Benn is to strong and while both fighters...especially Tito, were dropped and stunned very early in fights...more often than not they both got up.I think Tito gets put on his heels and it gets to be an inside fight,Titos left hook would be dangerous but when its close and they exchange.If Jr. Welts drop Tito...Benn keeps him on the floor.

[Jody Lane]

I believe Nigel Benn beat Doug Dewitt and Robbie Simms at 160 as well.

And Iran Barkely is a MUCH bigger man than Tito Trinidad.

He had straight punches too.

And was knocked down 3 times and stopped in one round.

Dewitt and Simms?? You gotta be from England. I was laughing so hard when I saw those names my belly popped through my throught onto the floor. They were more journeymen than fringe contenders here in the USA. As Holmes might say "Robbie Simms can't carry his brother's jockstrap." His brother being Marvin Hagler.

[BIG H]

I believe Nigel Benn beat Doug Dewitt and Robbie Simms at 160 as well.

And Iran Barkely is a MUCH bigger man than Tito Trinidad.

He had straight punches too.

And was knocked down 3 times and stopped in one round.

Dewitt and Simms?? You gotta be from England. I was laughing so hard when I saw those names my belly popped through my throught onto the floor. They were more journeymen than fringe contenders here in the USA. As Holmes might say "Robbie Simms can't carry his brother's jockstrap." His brother being Marvin Hagler.

He's not from England lol

Dewitt was a good win, he'd gone the distance with McCrory & Hearns and Benn stopped him convincingly.
Loved the Barkley fight - again an excellent win
Eubank (2nd fight) another big win, even if the judges cheated him
McClellan - Nuf said

Benn definitely had his limitations, but he was genuine world class and a match for any of the 90s MWs and SWs (P.S I said 'a match' not that he would beat)

[Master]

I believe Nigel Benn beat Doug Dewitt and Robbie Simms at 160 as well.

And Iran Barkely is a MUCH bigger man than Tito Trinidad.

He had straight punches too.

And was knocked down 3 times and stopped in one round.

Dewitt and Simms?? You gotta be from England. I was laughing so hard when I saw those names my belly popped through my throught onto the floor. They were more journeymen than fringe contenders here in the USA. As Holmes might say "Robbie Simms can't carry his brother's jockstrap." His brother being Marvin Hagler.

He's not from England lol

Dewitt was a good win, he'd gone the distance with McCrory & Hearns and Benn stopped him convincingly.
Loved the Barkley fight - again an excellent win
Eubank (2nd fight) another big win, even if the judges cheated him
McClellan - Nuf said

Benn definitely had his limitations, but he was genuine world class and a match for any of the 90s MWs and SWs (P.S I said 'a match' not that he would beat)

Agreed with Big H Robbie Simms also never got stopped by anyone else.

[BIG H]

Dewitt and Simms?? You gotta be from England. I was laughing so hard when I saw those names my belly popped through my throught onto the floor. They were more journeymen than fringe contenders here in the USA. As Holmes might say "Robbie Simms can't carry his brother's jockstrap." His brother being Marvin Hagler.

He's not from England lol

Dewitt was a good win, he'd gone the distance with McCrory & Hearns and Benn stopped him convincingly.
Loved the Barkley fight - again an excellent win
Eubank (2nd fight) another big win, even if the judges cheated him
McClellan - Nuf said

Benn definitely had his limitations, but he was genuine world class and a match for any of the 90s MWs and SWs (P.S I said 'a match' not that he would beat)

Agreed with Big H Robbie Simms also never got stopped by anyone else.

Simms beat Duran too didn't he? Or am I thinking of somebody else?

[Master]

He's not from England lol

Dewitt was a good win, he'd gone the distance with McCrory & Hearns and Benn stopped him convincingly.
Loved the Barkley fight - again an excellent win
Eubank (2nd fight) another big win, even if the judges cheated him
McClellan - Nuf said

Benn definitely had his limitations, but he was genuine world class and a match for any of the 90s MWs and SWs (P.S I said 'a match' not that he would beat)

Agreed with Big H Robbie Simms also never got stopped by anyone else.

Simms beat Duran too didn't he? Or am I thinking of somebody else?

Yes he did, although I remember he was fortunate to get the decision.

[Hulk]

I believe Nigel Benn beat Doug Dewitt and Robbie Simms at 160 as well.

And Iran Barkely is a MUCH bigger man than Tito Trinidad.

He had straight punches too.

And was knocked down 3 times and stopped in one round.

Dewitt and Simms?? You gotta be from England. I was laughing so hard when I saw those names my belly popped through my throught onto the floor. They were more journeymen than fringe contenders here in the USA. As Holmes might say "Robbie Simms can't carry his brother's jockstrap." His brother being Marvin Hagler.

I am from California, USA.

And I resent the implication that I am from England.

And Simms was a lil bit better than what you are giving him credit for.

[Violent Demise]

I believe Nigel Benn beat Doug Dewitt and Robbie Simms at 160 as well.

And Iran Barkely is a MUCH bigger man than Tito Trinidad.

He had straight punches too.

And was knocked down 3 times and stopped in one round.

Dewitt and Simms?? You gotta be from England. I was laughing so hard when I saw those names my belly popped through my throught onto the floor. They were more journeymen than fringe contenders here in the USA. As Holmes might say "Robbie Simms can't carry his brother's jockstrap." His brother being Marvin Hagler.

I am from California, USA.

And I resent the implication that I am from England.

And Simms was a lil bit better than what you are giving him credit for.

I would too. Insults don't come much worse than that.

[Scrap]

One thing I keep coming back to and I cant get it out off Head. Trinadad got put on His arse by Kevin Leusing at welter

[Violent Demise]

One thing I keep coming back to and I cant get it out off Head. Trinadad got put on His arse by Kevin Leusing at welter

Didn't Anthony Logan put Benn on his ass? What's that got to do with anything?

[match]

Trinidad was not as effective at 160 as he was 154 and 147.

Benn KO.

And Benn was? Except for beating Iran Barkley (who came in having lost his last 2) he did nothing else. Unless you call getting knocked out by Watson and Eubanks doing something

I think Michael Watson and Chris Eubanks are just a little more formidable at 160 than Trinidad was.

[YIDDLE]

both bangers both could get hurt,i am going with benn by brutal ko 2 after i would think going down himself ,i am not comparing trinidad to logan so dont think i am but the ending could be simaliar with benn hurt and trinidad moving in for the kill when nigel hooks him into next week ,benn at 160 although not as good as the 168 version had more one punch power

[ICB]

Trinidad was not as effective at 160 as he was 154 and 147.

Benn KO.

And Benn was? Except for beating Iran Barkley (who came in having lost his last 2) he did nothing else. Unless you call getting knocked out by Watson and Eubanks doing something

To be honest though VD, you say Iran Barkley had lost his last two. But that doesn't tell the whole story, two of those losses were against Roberto Duran, Michael Nunn.

Roberto Duran fought the fight of his life, and i thought Iran Barkley did enough to win. But still i have no complaints it was a great fight. And a very close one at that.

And Michael Nunn was P4P number 4, and was just coming off a brutal KO win over Sumbu Kalambay. Many people thought Michael Nunn would beat Iran Barkley easily.

But infact it was a very close fight, and Iran Barkley was praised on a very good effort against Michael Nunn. Losing a very close decision, me personally i only had Michael Nunn winning by 2 rounds.

As for the Nigel Benn vs Iran Barkley fight, i personally think Nigel Benn got away with murder. Hitting Iran Barkley while he was on the floor, and he was lucky the 3 knockdown rule was in effect. Because i believe Iran Barkley may of comeback to stop Nigel Benn.

I agree with you that Nigel Benn was better at 168 though, he improved as a boxer and i think his punch resistance. Was better at 168 aswell, but he still had some other good underrated wins at 160. The only man to stop Robbie Sims and a dominating win over Doug DeWitt.

As for this fight itself, well i was never really sold on Felix Trinidad at 160. I don't think he was at his best at Middleweight. And personally he did get knocked down alot early, and had that happened against Nigel Benn i don't think he would of survived.

And say what you will about Nigel Benn being better at 168, but he still had crushing one punch KO power. And i think he hit harder than Felix Trinidad especially at 160.

But Nigel Benn himself at 160 had bad defensive flaws. And wasn't quite the boxer he was at 160, and Felix Trinidad would have the advantage of experience over Nigel Benn, i really think this is about as 50/50 as you can get. This fight has so many ways it could go its impossible for me to pick.