Looks like Haye Vitali is off and its Haye v Valuev

[El Kabong]

I have no issues with Vitali at all....I'm just saying Wladimir is no chump, which you obviously disagree with. You don't think Wlad is tough or has any heart and it is wrong of you to think that, he's gotten up off the canvas to win, hell he's gotten up off the canvas to continue getting beaten up before, and he's avenged a loss, he's dealt with cuts and fouls beofre and he's come through it all with only 3 losses in 56 fights and he's won 47 of 53 by KO....that's equally impressive to anything Vitali has done.

The only thing different about the brothers are their styles, Vitali is a slugger, Wladimir is a boxer/puncher

[JazMerkin]

I have no issues with Vitali at all....I'm just saying Wladimir is no chump, which you obviously disagree with. You don't think Wlad is tough or has any heart and it is wrong of you to think that, he's gotten up off the canvas to win, hell he's gotten up off the canvas to continue getting beaten up before, and he's avenged a loss, he's dealt with cuts and fouls beofre and he's come through it all with only 3 losses in 56 fights and he's won 47 of 53 by KO....that's equally impressive to anything Vitali has done.

The only thing different about the brothers are their styles, Vitali is a slugger, Wladimir is a boxer/puncher

I agree with all of that bar the last sentence. I think to call Vitali a slugger is a bit far, he likes to brawl but its not like he lacks skill. Also a boxer/puncher is generally someone like Miguel Cotto, someone who will take a few risks to land shots. That is not Wlad, who is a pure boxer, or in FNR4 terms, an 'outfighter'

[El Kabong]

....well we're going to have to change what it means to be an "outfighter" or just a "pure boxer" because those types of fighters are not supposed to knock guys out, and Wlad always gets the KO.

[JT Rock]

I will admit it burns my ass that they call this china closet who backed into the title from process of elimination champion, when his brother is the better active fighter right now...

[WelshDevilRob]

Fantastic news. The Giant vs The Hayemaker.

Credit to Valuev for doing the right thing and offering Haye a decent deal -unlike the Klit brothers. Valuev even says the deal was easy to do.

Glad to see we are not going to get Ruiz vs Valuev again - if anyone would prefer to see that fight then they are following the wrong sport.

Hopefully they have a re-enforced canvas when the Timber hits the deck.