David Haye, "American people in general love to doubt anybody thats not American".

[leftylee]

Has Lyle's name wrote all over.

Was said before the Barrett fight 4:15 min in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XqAv...layer_embedded

He also said "talking's over, time for action" at about 2:00

And he did just that. By knocking Barrett clean out in 4 rounds less than Bitchsko did.

[killersheep]

Has Lyle's name wrote all over.

Was said before the Barrett fight 4:15 min in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XqAv...layer_embedded

He also said "talking's over, time for action" at about 2:00

And he did just that. By knocking Barrett clean out in 4 rounds less than Bitchsko did.

So I guess it's talking time again then?

[AdamGB]

has Lyle read this thread yet?

I haven't heard reports of a man's head exploding in Southern America yet.

But yeah... the truth is Haye has a lot of potential but with all of these fights falling through etc he's becoming as bad as the heavyweights he is bashing...

Funny hearing Buncey going on about Mosely though...

[El Kabong]

Yeah lefty 8 years after Wlad fought a young 23-1 Monte Barrett

[El Kabong]

Aside from Lennox Lewis (respectively) and Joe Calzaghe (begrudgingly)....are we Americans wrong in doubting the "talent" that England produces

[skel1983]

Aside from Lennox Lewis (respectively) and Joe Calzaghe (begrudgingly)....are we Americans wrong in doubting the "talent" that England produces

Calzaghes welsh not english for starters.

[Jody Lane]

Aside from Lennox Lewis (respectively) and Joe Calzaghe (begrudgingly)....are we Americans wrong in doubting the "talent" that England produces

I don't doubt anyone that can fight. But some of these guys the British produce are as bad as what we Americans put out so I don't think it has to do with where they are from. Audley Harrison to me is the Gerry Cooney of his generation. All hype and no talent.

[Violent Demise]

Aside from Lennox Lewis (respectively) and Joe Calzaghe (begrudgingly)....are we Americans wrong in doubting the "talent" that England produces

I don't doubt anyone that can fight. But some of these guys the British produce are as bad as what we Americans put out so I don't think it has to do with where they are from. Audley Harrison to me is the Gerry Cooney of his generation. All hype and no talent.

Cooney at least beat some names. Harrison? Well he didn't. Cooney would smash Harrison

[Gandalf]

I think Haye is generally right in his quote at the start of this thread. But I think he is now being doubted by far more than just the American people and he has brought it all on himself. All mouth and no trousers so far.

[DAWGSWIN]

Haye is just putting them off for a few years, ala the Calzaghe "Golden Years Tournament."

Just kidding!

[ono]

Aside from Lennox Lewis (respectively) and Joe Calzaghe (begrudgingly)....are we Americans wrong in doubting the "talent" that England produces

Yes.

Put the shoe on the other foot and ask yourself how well American fighters would fair travelling to another country to fight.

Forget the fact that the money is in the US and the home of Boxing etc... for a second and think about it.

It's very difficult to go into somebody else's backyard and perform to your best.

Obviously America has produced some amazing talent over the years but fighters from different countries all have different styles. In general American fighters have excellent technique sometimes combined with a bit of flashiness. That's probably the most obvious attribute so it's easy to be fooled into thinking they are the best fighters (again in general). Plenty of other attributes complete a fighter, so whereas English fighters (again in general) may be lacking in technique, a lot can make up for it with fitness, heart and strength. All probably just as important.

The fact that you have to begrudgingly accept Joe Calzaghe as a quality fighter suggest you are blinded by bias.

[The Fightfan]

I have just come to this conclusion. FUCK HAYE.

[HattonTheHammer]

well done david

youve now succesfully managed to spread the hate to 6 continents now who all think your a complete pr*ck


wonder if theres eskimos in antartica that think david hayes a c*nt??

[Conrad]

Playing Devil's Advocate here but considering the terms the Klitschko's were insisting on don't you think Haye was right to walk away? By agreeing to what they were asking Haye was basically signing the next 2 years of his career away to them. Sure he talked his way to a shot at them but what they were asking for in return was totally unreasonable.

We all know Haye has a big mouth and I cringed way back when Haye confronted Wlad at the airport and abused him. But if you put your hate for him to one side what would you do in his shoes? Klitschko's were effectively pricing themselves out of a fight with him.

Haye isn't scared of either fighter, why would you try so hard to get a fight and then back out? No way would a fighter intentionally set out to waste a year of their career with no earnings...

[kingfrnk]

Has Lyle's name wrote all over.

Was said before the Barrett fight 4:15 min in this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XqAv...layer_embedded

He also said "talking's over, time for action" at about 2:00

And he did just that. By knocking Barrett clean out in 4 rounds less than Bitchsko did.

styles make fights. and knocking out Barrett isnt nothing new.

and Hayes comments arent true either.