Padwork

[Ring Rat]

great read scrap !

[donnydarkoIRL]

Surely the idea is for the body to adapt to the process of correct action of thought so long as the process is correct its the incorrect thought that causes trouble as regards correct, level ,, distance, and angles. Sparring is a great way to learn it doesnt need to be Heavy. Doing drills with a partner is a very good way and can be a good learning drill, a pair of senseable lads eventually working at speed is terrific to watch, we do a lot of it reccommended. There is a form of stretch with Plyometric adaptions which I have found to be excellent for bonding Neurons at the same time interesting stuff.

Have improved greatly since I've began doing drills with a partner.

I'll have a gander at the gym tyonight, see what the expierienced guys do.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Good posts salty and scrap.

Pads and bags are tools and can be misused. I was determind to hook off the jab, spent the time rehersing it on the bag before I was able to land it well.

TBH I've found lots of good stuff in the american boxing manuals that I've not seen so much in UK gyms, more structure....maybe they did it when I wasn't round.

For example on the heavy bag, there's lots more you can do. It's all valid but left to our own devices we tend to get lazy, stick with what we know and work on our strengths.
3 different drills all working different modes all useful for boxing.
1 round just using the jab moving in and out or range, focus on speed and footwork.
1 round plant your feet, 3 punch combo focus on power.
1 round continuous punching

The same with sparring, most of the time I've seen two people just get thrown in the ring and they're left to get on with it might make you tough but not necessarily the most technical of fighters. How about 1 round just throwing the jab, 1 person attacks with 3 punch combos (light) the other defends. Set drills practicing jab-cross-slip(parry, sway, stepback) It goes on and on.

I'm not saying there shouldn't be hard sparring but not everytime you step in the gym. It should be progressive and have an aim to it.

I'll get off my soapbox now

[Scrap]

I love playing games even in Sparing. One that works qiute well is to only allow the fighters a certain amount of shots sometimes as little as 6 a round. When it happens the first time they run out of punches after 20 secs and have to defend the rest of the round. After a few times they start thinking about it and start thinking what they are doing, the improvement is remarkable

[donnydarkoIRL]

I love playing games even in Sparing. One that works qiute well is to only allow the fighters a certain amount of shots sometimes as little as 6 a round. When it happens the first time they run out of punches after 20 secs and have to defend the rest of the round. After a few times they start thinking about it and start thinking what they are doing, the improvement is remarkable

Frequently enough I do "jab only sparring" The opponent becomes aware I'm just jabbing and tries to exploit that. It's my job to stop him.

[RozzySean]

I love playing games even in Sparing. One that works qiute well is to only allow the fighters a certain amount of shots sometimes as little as 6 a round. When it happens the first time they run out of punches after 20 secs and have to defend the rest of the round. After a few times they start thinking about it and start thinking what they are doing, the improvement is remarkable

Frequently enough I do "jab only sparring" The opponent becomes aware I'm just jabbing and tries to exploit that. It's my job to stop him.

We do jab only in our gym quite often. Sometimes we do 1-2 only. It's good exercise. It helps you focus and automate your response straight punches.

[RobbyCook]

I am learning to box and at the same time trying to help a friend of mine stay sharp and train for an upcoming fight. He has been training me to train him on the pads and it has been great. There are days when we work only 3 or 4 combinations for 12-15 rounds and he has sharpened up a lot. I throw shots at him during our workouts, full shots, and that seems to help him offensively and defensively. It makes the pad work a little more interactive. Everyone has someone to emulate, and I believe in my man Freddie Roach. If he uses pads (having trained 21 belt holders), then I think I am going to. I am not being argumentative, just trying to stimulate conversation. I need all the help I can get being new, and appreciate all the input and experience you have.

[Scrap]

Its interesting how often the Pads get used when the camaras arnt there

[God.in.my.corner]

I like jab only sparring as an alternative. Jab to the head, body, shoulders, gloves with head movement, parrying/blocking, and footwork as defense.

I also like in-fighting only. 50% but the whole round you must be touching. Shoulder to shoulder. Alternate being against the ropes and trapped in a corner.

[Scrap]

God, Ive even tide them together with Elastic Rope

[Chris Nagel]

Hey Scrap, I remember you telling me before that russian coaches in the 30's were turning their gloves backwards for their pupils to hit long before the advent of punch pads. It caught on, as I found a picture of Sammy Goldstein doing the same thing:

[Scrap]

Chris I heard the 1st time Pads were seen in Britain, they were being used by the Hungarian Coaches. They were the round flat ones. Id love to know where they originate from

[Chris Nagel]

I don't know of anyone using them before Charlie Goldman. Hitting someone's hands has probably been around since the beginning of fist fighting. I can imagine that some boxing trainer had someone puncher hit his hands and thought, "This fooking hurts!" Thus out of necessity, the punch pads were born.

[shafty85]

I enjoy using the pads. In my very inexperienced opinion they seem to build up the muscle memory for combinations so I don't have to think about hitting, instinct just throws a 2-3 shot combo. That being said, it definitely is very different than sparring.

[JazMerkin]

Padwork is often about routine, especially with people who're weaker on the pads. Also too many average coaches seem to just stand still & use it as a straight punching system, ie 1,2, 1,2, 4, 6 etc. Good quality padwork, where punches are thrown back that you have to slip & weave under at random is worthwhile, however with so many people becoming coaches, often with little experience, padwork can be very weak. Last week I had a guy about my age, who didn't move me around the ring at all, slapped my punches down (as in started so he would slapping down onto my wrists as I punched not slapping into the punches) & then bitched when I pointed out what he was doing wrong. I think the problem is there's too many guys coming in who want to be Roger Mayweather immediately rather than taking the time (often years) to actually learn how to do these things properly, & you end up with padwork being about knowing how to punch in a routine rather than with any invention or reflex