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    Default Re: Who to win super six?

    got to be kessler, call me crazy but if taylor can get his shit together again then i think he has shot, hes still a good ass fighter

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    Default Re: Who to win super six?

    I got Jermaine Taylor shocking everybody and taking it all. His career is up against the wall. Anything but a great showing and he's done. And I think he knows it. He'll pull it out

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    Default Re: Who to win super six?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I got Jermaine Taylor shocking everybody and taking it all. His career is up against the wall. Anything but a great showing and he's done. And I think he knows it. He'll pull it out
    totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I got Jermaine Taylor shocking everybody and taking it all. His career is up against the wall. Anything but a great showing and he's done. And I think he knows it. He'll pull it out
    totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still
    Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

    So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I got Jermaine Taylor shocking everybody and taking it all. His career is up against the wall. Anything but a great showing and he's done. And I think he knows it. He'll pull it out
    totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still
    Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

    So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.
    u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho

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    Default Re: Who to win super six?

    The best thing about this tournament is that you could ask six different people and get six different answers.

    Try and imagine this tournament involving the best six in any other weight class and the result being so wide open as this.

    It's insane, anyone can potentially win this and you can make great arguments for all of them.

    As a testament to the sheer unpredictability of this event is that the guy seemingly with the least support on this forum, the great Frochster, is actually the bookies favourite to win the whole thing here in the UK.

    And the rank outsider according to British bookies, Andre Dirrel, is quite heavily tipped to beat Froch in their first round match by a great many people on this site.

    It's a great tournament and you really can't pick who is going to win any individual fight let alone the whole thing.

    For the record, my first round picks are,

    Taylor points
    Froch KO
    Kessler points

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    The best thing about this tournament is that you could ask six different people and get six different answers.

    Try and imagine this tournament involving the best six in any other weight class and the result being so wide open as this.

    It's insane, anyone can potentially win this and you can make great arguments for all of them.

    As a testament to the sheer unpredictability of this event is that the guy seemingly with the least support on this forum, the great Frochster, is actually the bookies favourite to win the whole thing here in the UK.

    And the rank outsider according to British bookies, Andre Dirrel, is quite heavily tipped to beat Froch in their first round match by a great many people on this site.

    It's a great tournament and you really can't pick who is going to win any individual fight let alone the whole thing.

    For the record, my first round picks are,

    Taylor points
    Froch KO
    Kessler points
    all true mate, can u imagine if they did this for the welters, thats including pacman and mayweather, that would be something

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
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    totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still
    Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

    So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.
    u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho
    He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.

    In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

    So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.
    u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho
    He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.

    In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.
    yeah its a shame when u put it like that, sort of reminds me of zab judah in a way, gettin beat by people who had no business beating u, but ur stamina,mental makeup lets u down

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

    So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.
    u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho
    He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.

    In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.
    In reality he lost. You need more than skill to be a success. What advantages he had in skill were wiped out by the heart, bottle, stamina, toughness, power etc of those two.

    Skills look more impressive, and are probably the most important factor after bottle, but that's only one part of the package.

    Just because a fighter is faster, has more variety of punches and a better defence doesn't necessarily mean he will ever beat the lesser skilled man.. as history shows
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I got Jermaine Taylor shocking everybody and taking it all. His career is up against the wall. Anything but a great showing and he's done. And I think he knows it. He'll pull it out
    totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still
    Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

    So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.
    BINGO!!!

    Taylor is always nervous and tight in his fights and thus he gets exhausted come the late rounds.

    He won't win this tournament.

    I Andre Dirrell or Ward pullin it out.
    "You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still
    Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

    So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.
    BINGO!!!

    Taylor is always nervous and tight in his fights and thus he gets exhausted come the late rounds.

    He won't win this tournament.

    I Andre Dirrell or Ward pullin it out.
    If he stays focus, Dirrell will do well. I give him an outside chance. Ward? I give him no chance. I have my doubts he'll even finish the tournament. If any fighters pulls out, I think it'll be Ward

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I got Jermaine Taylor shocking everybody and taking it all. His career is up against the wall. Anything but a great showing and he's done. And I think he knows it. He'll pull it out
    I agree, for similar reasons. JT's problems are physiological, in my mind. If he is not expected to win, he may feel less pressure and therefore be looser for the fights. I think he like W. K. expends a lot of nervous energy early in fights, and fades late. WK seems to have tamed this, I hope JT can.

    In my opinion JT can train to go 100 rounds and still fade in the 9th if he feels pressure. Its almost not his fault.

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    Default Re: Who to win super six?

    Well the bookmakers here in the UK have Froch favorite but I see Kessler being head and shoulders above the rest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Well the bookmakers here in the UK have Froch favorite but I see Kessler being head and shoulders above the rest!
    Wow. The bookies have Froch as the favorite? I would put money against that any day. I doubt he wins. Kessler will always be a bad matchup for him.

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