Manny Pacquiao shift to Sugar Shane Mosley

[OumaFan]

LOL, we at saddoboxing.com react to every rumor during negotiations like its truth revealed from on high by Zab Judah, does this not scream negotiating ploy to anybody, its what you do when you want to get your way, you use leverage, leverage in this case being Manny's team saying they can always make a fight with Shane if things don't work. And that is even if the rumor is remotely true which given the professionalism of the article in general is questionable.


Cotto-Pacquaio will almost surely happen.

at the article though, that was pure comedic gold, one of the funniest things I've read in a while.

[CFH]

Hasn't Pac - Cotto already been signed and announced?

[rjj tszyu]

Hasn't Pac - Cotto already been signed and announced?

I thought so too. Hope this isn't true, there are too amny fights being backed out of at the minute!

[Rican]

From what I heard there was only a verbal agreement, but no contract signed. Although I believe Cotto is being screwed enough already, he should not let the belt determine whether Manny will take the fight or not. This fight is very important for Cotto because if he wins, he guarantees another big payday and the right to fight Mayweather before anyone else. In addition, winning the fight will get respect back from many in boxing who see Cotto as "damaged goods." If Cotto's ability to absorb Margarito's punishment with probably loaded gloves and fighting Clottey with one eye doesn't get him respect already, then I don't know what will, even a win against Manny. This fight is too important for Cotto to risk for such a bogus (WBO-gus) belt anyway.

[killersheep]

Hasn't Pac - Cotto already been signed and announced?

I thought so too. Hope this isn't true, there are too amny fights being backed out of at the minute!

Apparently it hasn't been signed yet.

[CFH]

Hasn't Pac - Cotto already been signed and announced?

I thought so too. Hope this isn't true, there are too amny fights being backed out of at the minute!

Apparently it hasn't been signed yet.

I hope it gets signed soon because I can't take too much more of this shit.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I thought so too. Hope this isn't true, there are too amny fights being backed out of at the minute!

Apparently it hasn't been signed yet.

I hope it gets signed soon because I can't take too much more of this shit.

yea all this on again off again crap lately is annoying, first Haye/Wlad, then Haye/Vitali, than Pac/Cotto, and now maybe Pac/Mosley , make up your fucking minds

[CFH]

Apparently it hasn't been signed yet.

I hope it gets signed soon because I can't take too much more of this shit.

yea all this on again off again crap lately is annoying, first Haye/Wlad, then Haye/Vitali, than Pac/Cotto, and now maybe Pac/Mosley , make up your fucking minds

I was more referring to people bickering about it on here. We just keep going around in circles rehashing the same old arguments.

[Kev]

LOL, we at saddoboxing.com react to every rumor during negotiations like its truth revealed from on high by Zab Judah, does this not scream negotiating ploy to anybody, its what you do when you want to get your way, you use leverage, leverage in this case being Manny's team saying they can always make a fight with Shane if things don't work. And that is even if the rumor is remotely true which given the professionalism of the article in general is questionable.


Cotto-Pacquaio will almost surely happen.

at the article though, that was pure comedic gold, one of the funniest things I've read in a while.

Hence my very insightful article of recent weeks, namely do we judge fighters too much by comments or opinions attributed to them by media reports or crappy journalism rather than hearing what they themselves have to say.


Reading Miles postings is interesting to say the least. He wants to see Manny knocked out brutally for his 'grotesque' demands, frankly that's a bizarre point of view.

Manny is one of the best things to happen for boxing in a long long time. He's arguably the most exciting fighter of his generation, a very humble, dignified multiple world champ with a huge fighting heart and we should feel privaleged to see this little little big man go for history with a record breaking seventh world title win.

But Miles is once again letting his hatred of fanyboy posters warp his increasingly bitter mind.

Manny is making negotiations over weight because he's come to the very extremes of his weight limits. He has already moved through and won world titles in 6 weight classes, equalling the all time world record. He's now going for a record seventh, never in history done before.

All the other greats who won 6 world titles at 6 weights also had catchweights and negotioted hard, or in the case of Roy Jones handpicked the weakest heavyweight champ in recent history but Manny is wanting to fight the very best.

To Miles, if you think his demands are so grotesque, what other 6 weight world champ when challening for his seventh weight class was a more easy negotiator than Manny is being?

[LEGION]

LOL, we at saddoboxing.com react to every rumor during negotiations like its truth revealed from on high by Zab Judah, does this not scream negotiating ploy to anybody, its what you do when you want to get your way, you use leverage, leverage in this case being Manny's team saying they can always make a fight with Shane if things don't work. And that is even if the rumor is remotely true which given the professionalism of the article in general is questionable.


Cotto-Pacquaio will almost surely happen.

at the article though, that was pure comedic gold, one of the funniest things I've read in a while.

Hence my very insightful article of recent weeks, namely do we judge fighters too much by comments or opinions attributed to them by media reports or crappy journalism rather than hearing what they themselves have to say.


Reading Miles postings is interesting to say the least. He wants to see Manny knocked out brutally for his 'grotesque' demands, frankly that's a bizarre point of view.

Manny is one of the best things to happen for boxing in a long long time. He's arguably the most exciting fighter of his generation, a very humble, dignified multiple world champ with a huge fighting heart and we should feel privaleged to see this little little big man go for history with a record breaking seventh world title win.

But Miles is once again letting his hatred of fanyboy posters warp his increasingly bitter mind.

Manny is making negotiations over weight because he's come to the very extremes of his weight limits. He has already moved through and won world titles in 6 weight classes, equalling the all time world record. He's now going for a record seventh, never in history done before.

All the other greats who won 6 world titles at 6 weights also had catchweights and negotioted hard, or in the case of Roy Jones handpicked the weakest heavyweight champ in recent history but Manny is wanting to fight the very best.

To Miles, if you think his demands are so grotesque, what other 6 weight world champ when challening for his seventh weight class was a more easy negotiator than Manny is being?

Miles just wants Pac to get ktfo because that Hatton brutalizing is still haunting him

[Gandalf]

LOL, we at saddoboxing.com react to every rumor during negotiations like its truth revealed from on high by Zab Judah, does this not scream negotiating ploy to anybody, its what you do when you want to get your way, you use leverage, leverage in this case being Manny's team saying they can always make a fight with Shane if things don't work. And that is even if the rumor is remotely true which given the professionalism of the article in general is questionable.


Cotto-Pacquaio will almost surely happen.

at the article though, that was pure comedic gold, one of the funniest things I've read in a while.

Hence my very insightful article of recent weeks, namely do we judge fighters too much by comments or opinions attributed to them by media reports or crappy journalism rather than hearing what they themselves have to say.


Reading Miles postings is interesting to say the least. He wants to see Manny knocked out brutally for his 'grotesque' demands, frankly that's a bizarre point of view.

Manny is one of the best things to happen for boxing in a long long time. He's arguably the most exciting fighter of his generation, a very humble, dignified multiple world champ with a huge fighting heart and we should feel privaleged to see this little little big man go for history with a record breaking seventh world title win.

But Miles is once again letting his hatred of fanyboy posters warp his increasingly bitter mind.

Manny is making negotiations over weight because he's come to the very extremes of his weight limits. He has already moved through and won world titles in 6 weight classes, equalling the all time world record. He's now going for a record seventh, never in history done before.

All the other greats who won 6 world titles at 6 weights also had catchweights and negotioted hard, or in the case of Roy Jones handpicked the weakest heavyweight champ in recent history but Manny is wanting to fight the very best.

To Miles, if you think his demands are so grotesque, what other 6 weight world champ when challening for his seventh weight class was a more easy negotiator than Manny is being?

Miles just wants Pac to get ktfo because that Hatton brutalizing is still haunting him

I'm a little bit surprised to see Bilbo calling out my post there. But you have pretty much summed up my thinking. The Hatton fight was something I got so excited about and really got into the build up and it was just a mauling which made me quite depressed for a while.

As for Manny's seventh title claims. Well, he is coming up from smaller weights and at a youngish age which means these weight gains are pretty natural. He is hardly James Toney in doing this. And he has slipped in the odd David Diaz on the way too. Of course, I'm going to support Cotto and Mosley over him. He beat Barrera too lest we forget.

And maybe my thoughts are somewhat bitter, but thats just because I don't want my fighters to lose.

[TheMacMagician]

All this switching of opponents is becoming a bit of a joke. I said in a previous post that i'd believe the Pac Cotto fight when the are stood head to head in the ring. I can't see why Arum would want to see one of his fighters beat on the other. So much BS goes on in the background that I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this is purely to drum publicity and stir up mayweather into skipping JMM. Who knows.

[KananKrus]

All is fine, as long as we don't do a "patty cake" type rant spewing hate, complete with biased and illogical accusations hurled towards Pacquiao or anyone else for that matter, will always be a good read to me.

Don't hate on the PFP king, we are all getting carried away expending valuable energy and possibly, all for nothing... these are but pre-fight dress rehearsals or of sterner stuff in the name of negotiation.

Good topic tho' ... anything hammering Roach, Pacquiao, Khan and other winners like them on a roll, is always a magnet for illusory opinions delivered with vehement conviction, just as if indeed, it is factual!

As an audience though exposed to these rantings, one need be impartial, lest he be negatively swayed, damaged, and walkin' about with irrational thoughts. LOL!