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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Tex Cobb could take a pounding; as could the Quarry boys. Billy Collins let's not forget took an animalistic mauling.
    What makes me laugh about Tex Cobb, is that he took the best that Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Larry Holmes. Had to offer without ever looking really hurt. Then he gets dropped 4 times by some journeyman Dee Collier, and is finished off in 1 round how the hell do you explain that

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Tex Cobb could take a pounding; as could the Quarry boys. Billy Collins let's not forget took an animalistic mauling.
    What makes me laugh about Tex Cobb, is that he took the best that Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Larry Holmes. Had to offer without ever looking really hurt. Then he gets dropped 4 times by some journeyman Dee Collier, and is finished off in 1 round how the hell do you explain that


    I know man, it's crazy. I was thinking the same thing; I just couldn't remember the name of the guy{Collier}. It is bizarre though isn't it? Guess he had a bad day or something.

    But after reading that article yeah, that Joe is one tough motherfukker to take daily or weekly beating from a young, ferocious Tyson. You know ICB; I always thought that guy who fought Tyson and lasted what was it, 6 rounds or so, was a tough sob. Think is name was Steve Zouski? He took some beating in that fight; thnk he was a coal miner from West Virginia?
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    Default Re: The toughest white guy on the planet!

    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
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    Tex Cobb could take a pounding; as could the Quarry boys. Billy Collins let's not forget took an animalistic mauling.
    What makes me laugh about Tex Cobb, is that he took the best that Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Larry Holmes. Had to offer without ever looking really hurt. Then he gets dropped 4 times by some journeyman Dee Collier, and is finished off in 1 round how the hell do you explain that


    I know man, it's crazy. I was thinking the same thing; I just couldn't remember the name of the guy{Collier}. It is bizarre though isn't it? Guess he had a bad day or something.

    But after reading that article yeah, that Joe is one tough motherfukker to take daily or weekly beating from a young, ferocious Tyson. You know ICB; I always thought that guy who fought Tyson and lasted what was it, 6 rounds or so, was a tough sob. Think is name was Steve Zouski? He took some beating in that fight; thnk he was a coal miner from West Virginia?

    I think it was either a case of too much punishment catching up with Cobb or too many beers.
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    I think Mike just said it to him that Once to make him feel better about getting the shiit kicked out of him, I mean he probably never did go down and could take a good beating but to go round advertising yourself as the "toughest white man on the planet"

    Glen McCrory was only a cruiserweight and was a regular sparring partner of Mikes because he could stay upright

    Does In Jin Chi count as white? He was tough but yeah, watching live, McCullough walked through some beatings, shame he had no power

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    Met him once he was sat behind me at the Hatton - Mauser fight... Really nice guy was cracking jokes with Scott Welsh and Jamie Moore and getting really annoyed with Ricky's lack of defence till the KO came.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddo View Post
    Met him once he was sat behind me at the Hatton - Mauser fight... Really nice guy was cracking jokes with Scott Welsh and Jamie Moore and getting really annoyed with Ricky's lack of defence till the KO came.


    Bet he loved the Pac fight
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    I can't agrue with McCollugh, Cobb and Ward.....

    but what about Bobby Chacon? The punishment he could absorb was unreal. Sure he's a smaller guy, but the shots he took from Arguello, Limon and Boza-Edwards That's my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
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    Met him once he was sat behind me at the Hatton - Mauser fight... Really nice guy was cracking jokes with Scott Welsh and Jamie Moore and getting really annoyed with Ricky's lack of defence till the KO came.


    Bet he loved the Pac fight
    think the writing was on the wall for years hence the hit and hold tactics at the higher level

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    Tex Cobb could take a pounding; as could the Quarry boys. Billy Collins let's not forget took an animalistic mauling.
    What makes me laugh about Tex Cobb, is that he took the best that Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Larry Holmes. Had to offer without ever looking really hurt. Then he gets dropped 4 times by some journeyman Dee Collier, and is finished off in 1 round how the hell do you explain that

    Giving Dee His Due

    By Holmcall: Dee “Denorvell” Collier fought out of California during the 80’s and finished with a modest record of 12 (KO - 9 (KO 1). He had a great chin and excellent power. His problem seemed to be that the level of his opposition might have been too good too quickly. Fighting guys like Buster Douglass, Monte Masters, Alex Garcia, Mark Wills and Eric Curry was not exactly tantamount to cherry picking. His one KO loss was to Nigerian bomber Bash Ali who won 30 of his last 31 bouts (all but one by way of stoppage), but who had a knack for losing when he stepped up..

    Dee’s last career fight was a UD loss to Orlin Norris for the NABF heavyweight title on August 1, 1989. He went into that fight having iced Monte Masters, Bobby Crabtree and Garcia (his first loss) over a 6-month period. He also held two prior wins over Mark Wills who himself had stopped Greg Page twice. Clearly, Collier, who once had been the California State Heavyweight Champion, was not one to be taken lightly.

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    Which brings us back to Reseda, California on October 29, 1985 when a younger Dee met iron-chinned Tex Cobb, 25-6 coming in, but having lost his last three to Eddie Greg, Michael Dokes (by TD), and Buster Douglass (MD loss).

    The word was that if Cobb could score an impressive win over Collier, he might be in line for title bout against the heavyweight champion,Michael Spinks. Collier was seen as nothing more than an obscure club fighter and Cobb was heavily favored to score a decisive win. After all, Collier was coming off the aforementioned KO loss to Ali and a PTS loss to journeyman Mike Jameson.

    But someone forgot to tell the 6’4’’ Collier who, once the bell rang, immediately used Cobb as a punching bag and knocked out the rugged Texan after a severe battering. Cobb’s legendary iron chin turned to glass in plain sight, as he became a human yo-yo and hit the deck 4 times within 2 minutes and 31 seconds of the fight. This was an old fashioned Texas dry-gulch with Tex being the ambushee. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and never had a chance.

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    After a two-year retirement, Cobb went on the heartland circuit and closed out his career (interrupted by another retirement) by going undefeated in his last 20 outings, though against poor opposition. One, a NC with Sonny Barch, became the subject of much controversy but that’s a story for another day. Suffice it to say that of his last 20 wins, 16 came by stoppage and he closed his career with a fine 43 (KO 36) - 7 (KO 1) -1-1 mark. As for Collier, he went 5-5 after the Cobb win, but he fough against much better opposition.

    To this day, Tex Cobb remains a great fan favorite and a virtual legend in his own time, but a guy named Collier just kind of faded away. Yet for the many who worship at the Shrine of Cobb, let there be no doubt that he had his lunch eaten in Reseda on October 29, 1985 and the guy who did the eating should get his due as well.

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    Default Re: The toughest white guy on the planet!

    i think where all forgetting charlie zeneloff here

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    Quote Originally Posted by paddy448 View Post
    i think where all forgetting charlie zeneloff here
    That guy is a moonnsster for his weight.
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    Default Re: The toughest white guy on the planet!

    Zeljko Mavrovic was pretty damn tough, gave Lennox Lewis all he could handle.....he's a bit more ethnic than Cobb or the Quarry brothers.

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    Default Re: The toughest white guy on the planet!

    I second Wayne McCullough. Unrealistic toughness. Also you can't forget Mickey Ward.

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    Default Re: The toughest white guy on the planet!

    One more to the list.Since I've watched that documentary last night. I'd now say Billy Collins JR. Fighting someone with stripped padding and plaster of paris. Was hit well over a hundred times in the face.Now that is just simply tough.

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