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    I thought the documentary was good for boxing in a way. To shine a light on some shady doing's behind the scenes. As angry as I felt at Resto I couldn't help but be sympathetic in the end. You know he did do the crime he did his time he lived in a fucking ditch for ten years afterward while Panama kind of lived it up still making a name for himself training fighter's. He did take a career but look at his life afterward. He mine as well have been dead. I do believe in second chances and fuck let Resto have another shot by doing what he loves at least let him train fighter's in a gym like Panama is allowed to do.What I was getting so pissed at was how Panama kept calling Resto son. If I wear Resto I would have simply beat the piss out of Panama and said no father of mine would have let his son sleep in a fucking ditch. Sell one of those dozens of gold chains and ring's and give me the fucking money you piece of shit. Another thing that would piss me off was when Panama kept saying "look at me". I was saying the whole time "well take your fucking glasses off"!! you fucking punk and then finally Resto mumbled it take of your glasses. It does play on the mind a little bit but Resto did his time and should be forgiven. And for fuck sake let this case be open again for Collins' family and give these people some fucking money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I thought the documentary was good for boxing in a way. To shine a light on some shady doing's behind the scenes. As angry as I felt at Resto I couldn't help but be sympathetic in the end. You know he did do the crime he did his time he lived in a fucking ditch for ten years afterward while Panama kind of lived it up still making a name for himself training fighter's. He did take a career but look at his life afterward. He mine as well have been dead. I do believe in second chances and fuck let Resto have another shot by doing what he loves at least let him train fighter's in a gym like Panama is allowed to do.What I was getting so pissed at was how Panama kept calling Resto son. If I wear Resto I would have simply beat the piss out of Panama and said no father of mine would have let his son sleep in a fucking ditch. Sell one of those dozens of gold chains and ring's and give me the fucking money you piece of shit. Another thing that would piss me off was when Panama kept saying "look at me". I was saying the whole time "well take your fucking glasses off"!! you fucking punk and then finally Resto mumbled it take of your glasses. It does play on the mind a little bit but Resto did his time and should be forgiven. And for fuck sake let this case be open again for Collins' family and give these people some fucking money.
    Couldn't have said it any better myself.

    Resto has been a broken man every since that night and went to prison for it and lost everything.

    He deserves a second chance.

    Panama Lewis on the other hand is a rich, lying, scum bag with no remorse for the incident and no care for Resto what so ever.

    It was sad seeing Resto try and confront Lewis, becus it was clear that Resto is a broken man and could only mumble "take off your glasses" and "fuck you".

    Luis Resto should get some of the royalties from this film.

    You catch the part where the documenter was sayin he had to pay Panama Lewis every time he interviewed his no good ass?

    Fuckin scum of the earth.
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    Resto looks like a suicide waiting to happen. He's has broken as a man can get

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    I was tired of all the sympathy Resto got because he's a "broken man"; fukk him and Lewis. Yeah Resto finally came clean, lol ok, but only when he had the transcripts from taped conversations put in front of him.

    He's only sorry because he got caught, like most people who do sh#t things and get caught for it and then cry for forgiveness. He's real, real sorry but not because he feels for what he did to Collins, just that he got found out and ruined his own career. He says he thinks about that fight every night; I bet he does. They probably would have all laughed it up that fateful night, how fukked up Collins was and ending his undeafeated career, had those gloves not been found out; all a big joke hahaha. Too bad they were too stupid about it.

    Lewis should have never been allowed in a gym again, not just banning from cornr work. In a way I feel for Resto because if he wouldn't have gone along with it then Panama might have dumped him and his already journeyman career would have probably been over; but he could have taken the right path and instead chose to play along. But he served his time so whatever; I still don't feel sorry for him that much.

    And I don't believe a bit of it about the plaster, seemed like he was just trying to add more onto his story just to shift more focus to Panama. I don't see how Collins would have never made it through that fight with padding taken out AND plaster in the gloves; his face would have been broken to bits and a bloody pulp imo.

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    I live in OZ and was unaware of this tragic event, i know of Panama Lewis of course through the infamous " give me the bottle" story with Aaron Pryor.
    This now casts even greater doubt on the career of Aaron Pryor.
    I hope this never happens again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I live in OZ and was unaware of this tragic event, i know of Panama Lewis of course through the infamous " give me the bottle" story with Aaron Pryor.
    This now casts even greater doubt on the career of Aaron Pryor.
    I hope this never happens again.
    Welcome back to Kansas! This has cast a shadow, nay an eclipse, for a long time. Panama Lewis is a sack of s#it.

    You know though, I never hear this brought up when people talk about the Pryor/Arguello fight.

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    i was a bit annoyed with the guy who made the documentary trying to basically make Resto the victim of the whole situation, and also his blatant lack of respect for Billy Collins Sr's wishes not to be any part of the documentary pissed the fuck out of me, i got the impression that Resto's guilt is finally getting the best of him, and that he is sincerely looking for forgiveness, but Panama Lewis on the other hand, the fucker seemed as if it didn't bother him one bit, he's a master manipulater and doesn't give a fuck about anyone, hope the fat bastard, who looks like if he is the first pregnant man might i add, rots in hell

    loved the part that when he was watching the Cotto/Judah fight, all smiles while Judah was being effective, then looked like a stick went up his ass when Cotto stopped him lol went something like


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    Quote Originally Posted by DAWGSWIN View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN View Post
    I live in OZ and was unaware of this tragic event, i know of Panama Lewis of course through the infamous " give me the bottle" story with Aaron Pryor.
    This now casts even greater doubt on the career of Aaron Pryor.
    I hope this never happens again.
    Welcome back to Kansas! This has cast a shadow, nay an eclipse, for a long time. Panama Lewis is a sack of s#it.

    You know though, I never hear this brought up when people talk about the Pryor/Arguello fight.
    I've been reading up on this story all day, i love boxing, i love most sports, but this is has rocked me big time. The most blatant cheating i have ever seen, and now without doubt i realise why CutMe Mick was so skeptical of Aaron Pryor's win against Arguello in what is now known as 'bottlegate'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    I was tired of all the sympathy Resto got because he's a "broken man"; fukk him and Lewis. Yeah Resto finally came clean, lol ok, but only when he had the transcripts from taped conversations put in front of him.

    He's only sorry because he got caught, like most people who do sh#t things and get caught for it and then cry for forgiveness. He's real, real sorry but not because he feels for what he did to Collins, just that he got found out and ruined his own career. He says he thinks about that fight every night; I bet he does. They probably would have all laughed it up that fateful night, how fukked up Collins was and ending his undeafeated career, had those gloves not been found out; all a big joke hahaha. Too bad they were too stupid about it.

    Lewis should have never been allowed in a gym again, not just banning from cornr work. In a way I feel for Resto because if he wouldn't have gone along with it then Panama might have dumped him and his already journeyman career would have probably been over; but he could have taken the right path and instead chose to play along. But he served his time so whatever; I still don't feel sorry for him that much.

    And I don't believe a bit of it about the plaster, seemed like he was just trying to add more onto his story just to shift more focus to Panama. I don't see how Collins would have never made it through that fight with padding taken out AND plaster in the gloves; his face would have been broken to bits and a bloody pulp imo.

    The both of them can suffer more for all I care.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    I was tired of all the sympathy Resto got because he's a "broken man"; fukk him and Lewis. Yeah Resto finally came clean, lol ok, but only when he had the transcripts from taped conversations put in front of him.

    He's only sorry because he got caught, like most people who do sh#t things and get caught for it and then cry for forgiveness. He's real, real sorry but not because he feels for what he did to Collins, just that he got found out and ruined his own career. He says he thinks about that fight every night; I bet he does. They probably would have all laughed it up that fateful night, how fukked up Collins was and ending his undeafeated career, had those gloves not been found out; all a big joke hahaha. Too bad they were too stupid about it.

    Lewis should have never been allowed in a gym again, not just banning from cornr work. In a way I feel for Resto because if he wouldn't have gone along with it then Panama might have dumped him and his already journeyman career would have probably been over; but he could have taken the right path and instead chose to play along. But he served his time so whatever; I still don't feel sorry for him that much.

    And I don't believe a bit of it about the plaster, seemed like he was just trying to add more onto his story just to shift more focus to Panama. I don't see how Collins would have never made it through that fight with padding taken out AND plaster in the gloves; his face would have been broken to bits and a bloody pulp imo.

    The both of them can suffer more for all I care.

    Uhmm wasn't his face destroyed and never the same again? And Collins wife saying he had catract's and blind spots. I can feel your anger and we may never know the entire story but once they brought up how there was side bets going on with the cubans wanting Resto to win. Hey man who's to say they didn't approach Resto and say "We are going to do this and there is nothing you can do about it". OF course we don't know this but shit anything is possible. Resto did do a shitty thing and it was attempted murder him being a veteran at that time. At least let the man be he did a shitty thing and he apologized for it and he does seem very sincere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    I was tired of all the sympathy Resto got because he's a "broken man"; fukk him and Lewis. Yeah Resto finally came clean, lol ok, but only when he had the transcripts from taped conversations put in front of him.

    He's only sorry because he got caught, like most people who do sh#t things and get caught for it and then cry for forgiveness. He's real, real sorry but not because he feels for what he did to Collins, just that he got found out and ruined his own career. He says he thinks about that fight every night; I bet he does. They probably would have all laughed it up that fateful night, how fukked up Collins was and ending his undeafeated career, had those gloves not been found out; all a big joke hahaha. Too bad they were too stupid about it.

    Lewis should have never been allowed in a gym again, not just banning from cornr work. In a way I feel for Resto because if he wouldn't have gone along with it then Panama might have dumped him and his already journeyman career would have probably been over; but he could have taken the right path and instead chose to play along. But he served his time so whatever; I still don't feel sorry for him that much.

    And I don't believe a bit of it about the plaster, seemed like he was just trying to add more onto his story just to shift more focus to Panama. I don't see how Collins would have never made it through that fight with padding taken out AND plaster in the gloves; his face would have been broken to bits and a bloody pulp imo.

    The both of them can suffer more for all I care.

    Uhmm wasn't his face destroyed and never the same again? And Collins wife saying he had catract's and blind spots. I can feel your anger and we may never know the entire story but once they brought up how there was side bets going on with the cubans wanting Resto to win. Hey man who's to say they didn't approach Resto and say "We are going to do this and there is nothing you can do about it". OF course we don't know this but shit anything is possible. Resto did do a shitty thing and it was attempted murder him being a veteran at that time. At least let the man be he did a shitty thing and he apologized for it and he does seem very sincere.



    Yeah man his face was a fukkin mess, no doubt. I'm just saying, and maybe people on here who know better than me can help, that I would think without padding it's bad enough and would cause all that damage alone; but plaster too? I'd of thought his face would be cracked open and teeth missing etc. I'm not saying the damage wasn't extensive; just that it would have looked like a pipe bomb went off. It's just my opinion, help me out dude.

    Either way bro'; that whole "oh by the way, he put plaster on as well as taking the padding out" seemed forced and spur of the moment; IMO. If he was trying to make Lewis look more despicable he also made himself look the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by LEGION View Post
    I was tired of all the sympathy Resto got because he's a "broken man"; fukk him and Lewis. Yeah Resto finally came clean, lol ok, but only when he had the transcripts from taped conversations put in front of him.

    He's only sorry because he got caught, like most people who do sh#t things and get caught for it and then cry for forgiveness. He's real, real sorry but not because he feels for what he did to Collins, just that he got found out and ruined his own career. He says he thinks about that fight every night; I bet he does. They probably would have all laughed it up that fateful night, how fukked up Collins was and ending his undeafeated career, had those gloves not been found out; all a big joke hahaha. Too bad they were too stupid about it.

    Lewis should have never been allowed in a gym again, not just banning from cornr work. In a way I feel for Resto because if he wouldn't have gone along with it then Panama might have dumped him and his already journeyman career would have probably been over; but he could have taken the right path and instead chose to play along. But he served his time so whatever; I still don't feel sorry for him that much.

    And I don't believe a bit of it about the plaster, seemed like he was just trying to add more onto his story just to shift more focus to Panama. I don't see how Collins would have never made it through that fight with padding taken out AND plaster in the gloves; his face would have been broken to bits and a bloody pulp imo.

    The both of them can suffer more for all I care.

    Uhmm wasn't his face destroyed and never the same again? And Collins wife saying he had catract's and blind spots. I can feel your anger and we may never know the entire story but once they brought up how there was side bets going on with the cubans wanting Resto to win. Hey man who's to say they didn't approach Resto and say "We are going to do this and there is nothing you can do about it". OF course we don't know this but shit anything is possible. Resto did do a shitty thing and it was attempted murder him being a veteran at that time. At least let the man be he did a shitty thing and he apologized for it and he does seem very sincere.

    Yeah man; he did his time, state time and more. I don't wish bad on him; just saying my way isn't to feel bad for him if more does come his way.

    Hell in a way I do feel for him being a goat for Lewis and maybe being coerced into the whole thing, fearing his career would be taken if he didn't go along. We all make mistakes, so I'm not trying to ride the morality train while pissing on everyone; just you gotta' wonder how sorry he is and what he's sorry for: hurting Billy or hurting his career? I suppose as we get older we tend to live with regret, if we have any sort of soul, so maybe he is truly sorry for hurting Billy; who knows?


    I wish him well; but if he gets worse I won't give a sh#t. Sorry if that bothers people here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
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    I thought the documentary was good for boxing in a way. To shine a light on some shady doing's behind the scenes. As angry as I felt at Resto I couldn't help but be sympathetic in the end. You know he did do the crime he did his time he lived in a fucking ditch for ten years afterward while Panama kind of lived it up still making a name for himself training fighter's. He did take a career but look at his life afterward. He mine as well have been dead. I do believe in second chances and fuck let Resto have another shot by doing what he loves at least let him train fighter's in a gym like Panama is allowed to do.What I was getting so pissed at was how Panama kept calling Resto son. If I wear Resto I would have simply beat the piss out of Panama and said no father of mine would have let his son sleep in a fucking ditch. Sell one of those dozens of gold chains and ring's and give me the fucking money you piece of shit. Another thing that would piss me off was when Panama kept saying "look at me". I was saying the whole time "well take your fucking glasses off"!! you fucking punk and then finally Resto mumbled it take of your glasses. It does play on the mind a little bit but Resto did his time and should be forgiven. And for fuck sake let this case be open again for Collins' family and give these people some fucking money.
    Couldn't have said it any better myself.

    Resto has been a broken man every since that night and went to prison for it and lost everything.

    He deserves a second chance.

    Panama Lewis on the other hand is a rich, lying, scum bag with no remorse for the incident and no care for Resto what so ever.

    It was sad seeing Resto try and confront Lewis, becus it was clear that Resto is a broken man and could only mumble "take off your glasses" and "fuck you".

    Luis Resto should get some of the royalties from this film.

    You catch the part where the documenter was sayin he had to pay Panama Lewis every time he interviewed his no good ass?

    Fuckin scum of the earth.
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