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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    At 126 he was lucky to escape with a draw when he challenged for the titles against Juan Manuel Marquez and Hatton didnt have a title at 140.

    I didnt realise he was fighting at 147 either
    He isnt fighting at 147 but if he wins against Cotto and the belt is on the line it will go down as he won a belt at 147.Hatton had a ring belt and the the crappy Ibo i think.But according to roach the ring belt will be classed as the 6 world title belt

    Roach says 6th I say 5th and Pacfans say 7th lol
    you dont count 126? you dont know your own favorite fighter was the champ there and not jmm. mab was ring champion when pac beat him. thats 6th titles and 147 would make it the record 7th title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
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    He isnt fighting at 147 but if he wins against Cotto and the belt is on the line it will go down as he won a belt at 147.Hatton had a ring belt and the the crappy Ibo i think.But according to roach the ring belt will be classed as the 6 world title belt

    Roach says 6th I say 5th and Pacfans say 7th lol
    you dont count 126? you dont know your own favorite fighter was the champ there and not jmm. mab was ring champion when pac beat him. thats 6th titles and 147 would make it the record 7th title.
    ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

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    Roach says 6th I say 5th and Pacfans say 7th lol
    you dont count 126? you dont know your own favorite fighter was the champ there and not jmm. mab was ring champion when pac beat him. thats 6th titles and 147 would make it the record 7th title.
    ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles
    ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
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    you dont count 126? you dont know your own favorite fighter was the champ there and not jmm. mab was ring champion when pac beat him. thats 6th titles and 147 would make it the record 7th title.
    ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles
    ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.
    well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles
    ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.
    well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

    That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

    You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

    Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

    The man who beat the man
    3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post

    ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.
    well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

    That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

    You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

    Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

    The man who beat the man
    I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.


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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    funny thing is that pretty much every OTHER division after 89 has a lineal champion put most as early as the early 90's

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
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    well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

    That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

    You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

    Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

    The man who beat the man
    I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.

    this fenster guy must have ownage doctorate. perfectly owned the other guy elterrible.

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post

    you dont count 126? you dont know your own favorite fighter was the champ there and not jmm. mab was ring champion when pac beat him. thats 6th titles and 147 would make it the record 7th title.
    ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles
    ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.
    Most don't believe that the 'lineal' championship at 108 existed, it's a tenuous link getting there.

    But what's with the personal attacks on people?

    If someone disagrees even in the slightest about his achievements they become a 'Pac-hater' right

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    Default Re: Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by littlebif View Post
    He isnt fighting at 147 but if he wins against Cotto and the belt is on the line it will go down as he won a belt at 147.Hatton had a ring belt and the the crappy Ibo i think.But according to roach the ring belt will be classed as the 6 world title belt

    Roach says 6th I say 5th and Pacfans say 7th lol
    you dont count 126? you dont know your own favorite fighter was the champ there and not jmm. mab was ring champion when pac beat him. thats 6th titles and 147 would make it the record 7th title.
    So now now we arent counting world titles but we are counting who the number one at the weight was?

    In that case was David Diaz recognised as the best lightweight out there ? Did Pac beat the number 1 lightweight? Its just so we have clarity . . . .did he become champ at those weights or did he beat the best at those wieghts or is it a mixture of both cuz im counting 4 world titles.

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