Cotto's welterweight belt is on the line!!!

[Fenster]

ring champ, but held no world title, which is what they basically rule it by, i for one count Pacquiao as a 6 weight class champ, but don't agree that he's held 4 lineal titles

ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

[generalbulldog]

ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.

[ElTerribleMorales]

funny thing is that pretty much every OTHER division after 89 has a lineal champion put most as early as the early 90's

[rocky55]

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.

this fenster guy must have ownage doctorate. perfectly owned the other guy elterrible.

[ElTerribleMorales]

yea he sure is this is coming from the same guy who had Witter as one of the top guys at 140

[Fenster]

yea he sure is this is coming from the same guy who had Witter as one of the top guys at 140

In 2005 Witter was rated no.5 best lightwelter on the planet by The Ring. Over the next couple of years, after winning the WBC title, he rose to no.1 best lightwelter on the planet according to The Ring.

If you are rated no.1 by The Ring it pretty much makes you a top fighter, right?

Now don't get upset ElTerribleMorales, my intention was not to "own" you, about Pac at flyweight, just to merely inform.

[Julius Rain]

somtimes, people do things they did not intend to do.

[Majesty]

yea he sure is this is coming from the same guy who had Witter as one of the top guys at 140

In 2005 Witter was rated no.5 best lightwelter on the planet by The Ring. Over the next couple of years, after winning the WBC title, he rose to no.1 best lightwelter on the planet according to The Ring.

If you are rated no.1 by The Ring it pretty much makes you a top fighter, right?

Now don't get upset ElTerribleMorales, my intention was not to "own" you, about Pac at flyweight, just to merely inform.

People intend to not acknowledge people for their wins but when they lose use it as proof that they would lose to their favorite fighter. Never say a word when Witter was beating Corley and sparked out Vivian Harris, but now will scream to high heavens years later that he'd never beat Hatton because of how he looked against Bradley. Well given how Hatton looked against Mayweather and Pacquiao it could easily be said its just as plausible that Witter would have KO'd him. But those days are long gone but at one point Witter was one of the top light welters in the world and his recent losses won't change he was in that position once in his career regardless.

[Fenster]

yea he sure is this is coming from the same guy who had Witter as one of the top guys at 140

In 2005 Witter was rated no.5 best lightwelter on the planet by The Ring. Over the next couple of years, after winning the WBC title, he rose to no.1 best lightwelter on the planet according to The Ring.

If you are rated no.1 by The Ring it pretty much makes you a top fighter, right?

Now don't get upset ElTerribleMorales, my intention was not to "own" you, about Pac at flyweight, just to merely inform.

People intend to not acknowledge people for their wins but when they lose use it as proof that they would lose to their favorite fighter. Never say a word when Witter was beating Corley and sparked out Vivian Harris, but now will scream to high heavens years later that he'd never beat Hatton because of how he looked against Bradley. Well given how Hatton looked against Mayweather and Pacquiao it could easily be said its just as plausible that Witter would have KO'd him. But those days are long gone but at one point Witter was one of the top light welters in the world and his recent losses won't change he was in that position once in his career regardless.

Exactly

[ElTerribleMorales]

yea he sure is this is coming from the same guy who had Witter as one of the top guys at 140

In 2005 Witter was rated no.5 best lightwelter on the planet by The Ring. Over the next couple of years, after winning the WBC title, he rose to no.1 best lightwelter on the planet according to The Ring.

If you are rated no.1 by The Ring it pretty much makes you a top fighter, right?

Now don't get upset ElTerribleMorales, my intention was not to "own" you, about Pac at flyweight, just to merely inform.

People intend to not acknowledge people for their wins but when they lose use it as proof that they would lose to their favorite fighter. Never say a word when Witter was beating Corley and sparked out Vivian Harris, but now will scream to high heavens years later that he'd never beat Hatton because of how he looked against Bradley. Well given how Hatton looked against Mayweather and Pacquiao it could easily be said its just as plausible that Witter would have KO'd him. But those days are long gone but at one point Witter was one of the top light welters in the world and his recent losses won't change he was in that position once in his career regardless.

you mean the same Corley who had already lost to Judah, Mayweather, and Cotto, and would go on a 5 fight losing streak after the Witter fight? and the same Vivian Harris who had lost to the oh so talented Carlos Maussa by brutal KO , and barely won in a lackluster fight against Lazcano just prior to the Witter loss? please i've always said that Witter was utter crap, said that when he actually stepped up against DECENT world talent he'd lose, and surprise surprise, he lost to Bradley and now QUIT against Alexander, i don't think much of Hatton, and think that Hatton would have owned Witter at any point of their careers, if he didn't ko him, the pussy would have just flat out quit, he's utter garbage, perfect example of a dude with a big mouth and not enough skills, heart, or balls to back it up

[Julius Rain]

ofcourse you dont agree he's held 4 lineal title, that something hard for a guy like you to do.

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

thanks fenster for not getting tired of having to explain that because i sure have.

well sorry last lineal champ at Flyweight was Yong-Kang Kim, there hasn't been a lineal champ since 1989

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.

That's not right.. The Ring went out of buisness for a short time in 1989, when they restarted they stopped recognising lineal champs. That's why the lineage is lost in 1989. They then ignored their own history when they restarted the ratings years later.

You can trace Pac from Yong-Kang Kim.

Yong Kang Kim-Sot Chitalada-Maungchai Kittikasem-Yuri Arbachakov-Chatchai Sasakul-Manny Pacquiao.

The man who beat the man

I award thee this certificate based on a brilliant post.

this fenster guy must have ownage doctorate. perfectly owned the other guy elterrible.