Fedor is not fighting for his legacy, best believe that

[LEGION]

I hope Fedor NEVER goes to the UFC. Dana White is such a bullshitter, why doesn't someone bring up those "Fedor is not a top 10 heavyweight" comments from Dana. Would you work for a boss who only acknowledges the great job you do when you have the chance to make him money? Fuck that, those were the most innappropriate comments I have ever seen a promoter make about a fighter's abilities. And what makes him want Fedor now? Because he beat AA and Tim Sylvia?


Sorry JT but Fedor is in the right hear I hope he stays undefeated and never goes to the UFC.

Dana is just trying to fool people into thinking Fedor is hype and the real comp. is in UFC; upset because he can't get him to bow down to him.

And Fedor fights because he likes it; I don't think he gives 2 sh#ts about what anyone thinks of him or bearing the UFC brand behind him. Whether he could beat Lesnar who knows maybe, maybe not. There is always going to be someone coming along who will be the new guy and ups the game; whether Lesnar is that guy I don't know. All I know is Fedor already beat more than a handful of former UFC heavies pretty easily; including NOG 3 times, actually 1 was a NC though, but still beating NOG in his prime is hella' good to me, one of the best hw's ever in mma.

Dana wants him to come in to not only fight Lesnar but make the UFC HW div. look fuller; it is garbage right now for the most part. Anyone who knows anything knows Fedor is the best, beating all those guys before they went to UFC or after they came out; and doesn't give a sh#t about the UFC brand and won't be played by Dana. Only one who could give him severe problems is Lesnar; just from the huge size difference and athletic ability. Kongo, Mir, Overeem lol, Vasquez, Carwin all get owned by him imo easily.

I think also people have to take into consideration the Russian Mafia is in this somewhere and they pull alot of the strings; or at least I wouldn't doubt it. They won't be bullied by Dana White.

[VictorCharlie]

I don't blame Fedor or Dana. Dana runs a business and part of his business is having us believe that the best fighters in the world are in the UFC. If you read his most recent quotes though he was very gracious in describing Fedor's abilities and only citing that he hadn't been in with a top fighter in a while. UFC agreed to every contract request made except co promoting and you can't blame them for that. No one in their right mind would just give up a percentage of their profit per PPV b/c of one fighter. Fedor is clearly fighting for money and money alone. While his manager is getting the bad end of this, Fedor is a partner in M1 and stands to make a lot of money if M1 co promotes. The UFC offered the richest contract with the most concessions they have ever made. Can't say they didn't make the maximum effort.

[VictorCharlie]

I hope Fedor NEVER goes to the UFC. Dana White is such a bullshitter, why doesn't someone bring up those "Fedor is not a top 10 heavyweight" comments from Dana. Would you work for a boss who only acknowledges the great job you do when you have the chance to make him money? Fuck that, those were the most innappropriate comments I have ever seen a promoter make about a fighter's abilities. And what makes him want Fedor now? Because he beat AA and Tim Sylvia?


Sorry JT but Fedor is in the right hear I hope he stays undefeated and never goes to the UFC.

Dana is just trying to fool people into thinking Fedor is hype and the real comp. is in UFC; upset because he can't get him to bow down to him.

And Fedor fights because he likes it; I don't think he gives 2 sh#ts about what anyone thinks of him or bearing the UFC brand behind him. Whether he could beat Lesnar who knows maybe, maybe not. There is always going to be someone coming along who will be the new guy and ups the game; whether Lesnar is that guy I don't know. All I know is Fedor already beat more than a handful of former UFC heavies pretty easily; including NOG 3 times, actually 1 was a NC though, but still beating NOG in his prime is hella' good to me, one of the best hw's ever in mma.

Dana wants him to come in to not only fight Lesnar but make the UFC HW div. look fuller; it is garbage right now for the most part. Anyone who knows anything knows Fedor is the best, beating all those guys before they went to UFC or after they came out; and doesn't give a sh#t about the UFC brand and won't be played by Dana. Only one who could give him severe problems is Lesnar; just from the huge size difference and athletic ability. Kongo, Mir, Overeem lol, Vasquez, Carwin all get owned by him imo easily.

I think also people have to take into consideration the Russian Mafia is in this somewhere and they pull alot of the strings; or at least I wouldn't doubt it. They won't be bullied by Dana White.

Overeem is in Strikeforce, but I'd say Dos Santos, Carwin, Velasquez, Mir, Kongo, Couture, Nog, Cro Cop, Gonzaga and Lesnar make up a pretty good division. Can you name someone with a better HW div?

[LEGION]

I hope Fedor NEVER goes to the UFC. Dana White is such a bullshitter, why doesn't someone bring up those "Fedor is not a top 10 heavyweight" comments from Dana. Would you work for a boss who only acknowledges the great job you do when you have the chance to make him money? Fuck that, those were the most innappropriate comments I have ever seen a promoter make about a fighter's abilities. And what makes him want Fedor now? Because he beat AA and Tim Sylvia?


Sorry JT but Fedor is in the right hear I hope he stays undefeated and never goes to the UFC.

Dana is just trying to fool people into thinking Fedor is hype and the real comp. is in UFC; upset because he can't get him to bow down to him.

And Fedor fights because he likes it; I don't think he gives 2 sh#ts about what anyone thinks of him or bearing the UFC brand behind him. Whether he could beat Lesnar who knows maybe, maybe not. There is always going to be someone coming along who will be the new guy and ups the game; whether Lesnar is that guy I don't know. All I know is Fedor already beat more than a handful of former UFC heavies pretty easily; including NOG 3 times, actually 1 was a NC though, but still beating NOG in his prime is hella' good to me, one of the best hw's ever in mma.

Dana wants him to come in to not only fight Lesnar but make the UFC HW div. look fuller; it is garbage right now for the most part. Anyone who knows anything knows Fedor is the best, beating all those guys before they went to UFC or after they came out; and doesn't give a sh#t about the UFC brand and won't be played by Dana. Only one who could give him severe problems is Lesnar; just from the huge size difference and athletic ability. Kongo, Mir, Overeem lol, Vasquez, Carwin all get owned by him imo easily.

I think also people have to take into consideration the Russian Mafia is in this somewhere and they pull alot of the strings; or at least I wouldn't doubt it. They won't be bullied by Dana White.

Overeem is in Strikeforce, but I'd say Dos Santos, Carwin, Velasquez, Mir, Kongo, Couture, Nog, Cro Cop, Gonzaga and Lesnar make up a pretty good division. Can you name someone with a better HW div?

Nope.

But if Fedor doesn't go to UFC he will just keep beating the sh#t out of them when Dana gets tired of them and throws them out to fight for someone else anyways. I'd love to see him in the UFC, would be huge, but oh well it's gotten to be old and tired news now; lots of other, better divisions to watch than the heavies anyways. Dana and Fedor are stubborn so fukk it.

[JT Rock]

So Werdum, Rodgers and Oversteem are going to round out his career...

Please dont give me that shiit about Dana White, I am so fuking tired of hearing about he is a douche bag and blah, blah, blah. The guy has single handidly put MMA in the mainstream and has been more than fair with his fighters. The fact that Fedor thumbed his nose at a bizillion dollars, was going to immediately fight for a title and wear M-1 global on all his shit and prepared tea like Dr Fukin Zhivago is more than fair,

I am a HUGE Ginormous Fedor fan and would love him to put it on Brock and bring his cool quit demeanor to the UFC and run the table, but please dont give me that I wouldnt work for a douche like Dana White shiit, because money talks and bullshit walks and Dana stuffed a bull full of greenbacks and walked it over to Fedor... Its stupid to have to co promote a whole gotdam organization that sells 1.5 millon units per paperview with one fighter who never bested 300,000 units on his best day

[blegit]

Let Fedor be honored for making his choice and sticking to it. A fighter who controls his business(himself) is a fighter who will make better business decisions. I think Fedor refuses to work for Dana because Dana was belittling him when he had no chance to land Fedor. When he thought he had a chance to land Fedor then he tones it down and even slightly compliments him. How can someone really argue against Fedor for not selling out? More money isn't everything. Some things mean more and it not like he is choosing nothing over money. Besides, UFC doesn't have deserving contracts. Look at most of the top guys what they get paid per fight, most only get 5 figures, so its not like he is passing up millions for peanuts. A lot of UFC guys are not happy with what they make in comparison to what UFC makes. That is where boxing is light years ahead of UFC.

[VictorCharlie]

The UFC met every contract demand Fedor had except the co promotion. Fedor will probably make more money with his partnership but to suggest he wasn't going to make a ton of money with the UFC and more than any MMA fighter ever has is silly. As far as UFC contracts in general...One would think the UFC could pay better but its not like any of the other orgs are paying on par with them much less better.

[amat]

So Werdum, Rodgers and Oversteem are going to round out his career...

Please dont give me that shiit about Dana White, I am so fuking tired of hearing about he is a douche bag and blah, blah, blah. The guy has single handidly put MMA in the mainstream and has been more than fair with his fighters. The fact that Fedor thumbed his nose at a bizillion dollars, was going to immediately fight for a title and wear M-1 global on all his shit and prepared tea like Dr Fukin Zhivago is more than fair,

I am a HUGE Ginormous Fedor fan and would love him to put it on Brock and bring his cool quit demeanor to the UFC and run the table, but please dont give me that I wouldnt work for a douche like Dana White shiit, because money talks and bullshit walks and Dana stuffed a bull full of greenbacks and walked it over to Fedor... Its stupid to have to co promote a whole gotdam organization that sells 1.5 millon units per paperview with one fighter who never bested 300,000 units on his best day

1.5 mil per ppv? More like one time they sold on 1.5 million pay per views

If Joe Torre was asked where does Roy Halladay rank among the best pitchers in baseball and Torre said that Halladay was a bum, not a top 10 pitcher in his own division, Hiroki Kuroda is better then Roy Halladay ect. The chances are that when Halladay was a free agent he would make it a point that when the Dodgers came offering, Halladay would tell them to fuck off.

It's not that he's just an asshole, he's been on record calling this guy that he's now trying to make a whole lot of money off a bum! Dana White isn't a business man.

[VictorCharlie]

I don't think anyone is really saying that Dana Whites "persona" is desirable and as a MMA fan I really wish the guy would take a more off center stage role. Guys is an asshole but I really don't think that had anything to do with Fedor's decision

[CGM]

I don't think anyone is really saying that Dana Whites "persona" is desirable and as a MMA fan I really wish the guy would take a more off center stage role. Guys is an asshole but I really don't think that had anything to do with Fedor's decision

No? Perhaps like Klitchkos refusing to fight for Don King cause King is an asshole.

[VictorCharlie]

well they are obviously the exact same thing now aren't they

[CGM]

well they are obviously the exact same thing now aren't they

I follow you about as well as you follow me. My impression, perhaps incorrect, is that you were implying that Fedor is just motivated by cash, and not by a dislike for White. If that is what you think, then I am saying that maybe it ain't so, as I think Klitchkos are motivated by a dislike for King, and if that is true for them, then maybe it is true for Fedor.

regards.

[shafty85]

While I agree with many of you, that many of White's comments regarding Fedor are simply to pull the wool over some people's eyes, I do believe he is correct in stating that the best fighters are in the UFC. While lately I believe the UFC is becoming watered down (should fighters really be signed because they are entertaining over efficient? IMO this just opens the sport to brawlers who are tough, and discourages a lot of talent) I believe the top fighters are still in the UFC. Proof of this is the difficulty that fighters who come from other associations are having. At UFC 101, I believe it was, the Japanese K1 fighter who won a shocking split decision (or was it unanimous) said before hand that the fighters were much bigger in their division due to weight cuts, and he wasn't sure how well he would do, even though he had dominated in K1.

Anyway, too bad Fedor didn't get to come to the UFC, and shame on him and Dana for not being able to come to SOME kind of agreement so that fight fans could see some potentially great bouts.

[amat]

1.85 total payroll for UFC 100, the biggest event of the UFC year, and you somehow think that's at all right? Could you imagine if 2 boxers fought and got over a million PPV buys, and they split a 1.85 million dollar pot with 8 other fighters on the card. No way it's not fair where are those millions and millions of dollars that's not going to the fighters going? Really now, any fight fan should be wanting more money for the fighters and really, for how much hype that fight got, 400 thousand for Lesnar and 45K for Mir? Seriously, 45 thousand? I don't care how much sponsors give him he should get a waaaaay better payout then that.

400K is like what Berto got for fighting Collazo maybe even less.

[JT Rock]

1.85 total payroll for UFC 100, the biggest event of the UFC year, and you somehow think that's at all right? Could you imagine if 2 boxers fought and got over a million PPV buys, and they split a 1.85 million dollar pot with 8 other fighters on the card. No way it's not fair where are those millions and millions of dollars that's not going to the fighters going? Really now, any fight fan should be wanting more money for the fighters and really, for how much hype that fight got, 400 thousand for Lesnar and 45K for Mir? Seriously, 45 thousand? I don't care how much sponsors give him he should get a waaaaay better payout then that.

400K is like what Berto got for fighting Collazo maybe even less.

It is what it is dude, whether you like it or not... I dont hear those guys crying poverty one bit. What I do see is a company that has managed to dominate the promotion of a sport to the point that no one else can even sniff the success they enjoy.