Fedor is not fighting for his legacy, best believe that

[JT Rock]

So Werdum, Rodgers and Oversteem are going to round out his career...

Please dont give me that shiit about Dana White, I am so fuking tired of hearing about he is a douche bag and blah, blah, blah. The guy has single handidly put MMA in the mainstream and has been more than fair with his fighters. The fact that Fedor thumbed his nose at a bizillion dollars, was going to immediately fight for a title and wear M-1 global on all his shit and prepared tea like Dr Fukin Zhivago is more than fair,

I am a HUGE Ginormous Fedor fan and would love him to put it on Brock and bring his cool quit demeanor to the UFC and run the table, but please dont give me that I wouldnt work for a douche like Dana White shiit, because money talks and bullshit walks and Dana stuffed a bull full of greenbacks and walked it over to Fedor... Its stupid to have to co promote a whole gotdam organization that sells 1.5 millon units per paperview with one fighter who never bested 300,000 units on his best day

[blegit]

Let Fedor be honored for making his choice and sticking to it. A fighter who controls his business(himself) is a fighter who will make better business decisions. I think Fedor refuses to work for Dana because Dana was belittling him when he had no chance to land Fedor. When he thought he had a chance to land Fedor then he tones it down and even slightly compliments him. How can someone really argue against Fedor for not selling out? More money isn't everything. Some things mean more and it not like he is choosing nothing over money. Besides, UFC doesn't have deserving contracts. Look at most of the top guys what they get paid per fight, most only get 5 figures, so its not like he is passing up millions for peanuts. A lot of UFC guys are not happy with what they make in comparison to what UFC makes. That is where boxing is light years ahead of UFC.

[VictorCharlie]

The UFC met every contract demand Fedor had except the co promotion. Fedor will probably make more money with his partnership but to suggest he wasn't going to make a ton of money with the UFC and more than any MMA fighter ever has is silly. As far as UFC contracts in general...One would think the UFC could pay better but its not like any of the other orgs are paying on par with them much less better.

[amat]

So Werdum, Rodgers and Oversteem are going to round out his career...

Please dont give me that shiit about Dana White, I am so fuking tired of hearing about he is a douche bag and blah, blah, blah. The guy has single handidly put MMA in the mainstream and has been more than fair with his fighters. The fact that Fedor thumbed his nose at a bizillion dollars, was going to immediately fight for a title and wear M-1 global on all his shit and prepared tea like Dr Fukin Zhivago is more than fair,

I am a HUGE Ginormous Fedor fan and would love him to put it on Brock and bring his cool quit demeanor to the UFC and run the table, but please dont give me that I wouldnt work for a douche like Dana White shiit, because money talks and bullshit walks and Dana stuffed a bull full of greenbacks and walked it over to Fedor... Its stupid to have to co promote a whole gotdam organization that sells 1.5 millon units per paperview with one fighter who never bested 300,000 units on his best day

1.5 mil per ppv? More like one time they sold on 1.5 million pay per views

If Joe Torre was asked where does Roy Halladay rank among the best pitchers in baseball and Torre said that Halladay was a bum, not a top 10 pitcher in his own division, Hiroki Kuroda is better then Roy Halladay ect. The chances are that when Halladay was a free agent he would make it a point that when the Dodgers came offering, Halladay would tell them to fuck off.

It's not that he's just an asshole, he's been on record calling this guy that he's now trying to make a whole lot of money off a bum! Dana White isn't a business man.

[VictorCharlie]

I don't think anyone is really saying that Dana Whites "persona" is desirable and as a MMA fan I really wish the guy would take a more off center stage role. Guys is an asshole but I really don't think that had anything to do with Fedor's decision

[CGM]

I don't think anyone is really saying that Dana Whites "persona" is desirable and as a MMA fan I really wish the guy would take a more off center stage role. Guys is an asshole but I really don't think that had anything to do with Fedor's decision

No? Perhaps like Klitchkos refusing to fight for Don King cause King is an asshole.

[VictorCharlie]

well they are obviously the exact same thing now aren't they

[CGM]

well they are obviously the exact same thing now aren't they

I follow you about as well as you follow me. My impression, perhaps incorrect, is that you were implying that Fedor is just motivated by cash, and not by a dislike for White. If that is what you think, then I am saying that maybe it ain't so, as I think Klitchkos are motivated by a dislike for King, and if that is true for them, then maybe it is true for Fedor.

regards.

[VictorCharlie]

Well if you believe Fedor he has been quoted that White's comments had nothing to do with signing/not signing. The UFC met every contract demand Fedor's management put forth except co-promotion. It may very well be more than just money but IMHO I don't think White being a media whore and asshole played a part. I doubt Fedor personally has had much if any one on one time with White.

[shafty85]

While I agree with many of you, that many of White's comments regarding Fedor are simply to pull the wool over some people's eyes, I do believe he is correct in stating that the best fighters are in the UFC. While lately I believe the UFC is becoming watered down (should fighters really be signed because they are entertaining over efficient? IMO this just opens the sport to brawlers who are tough, and discourages a lot of talent) I believe the top fighters are still in the UFC. Proof of this is the difficulty that fighters who come from other associations are having. At UFC 101, I believe it was, the Japanese K1 fighter who won a shocking split decision (or was it unanimous) said before hand that the fighters were much bigger in their division due to weight cuts, and he wasn't sure how well he would do, even though he had dominated in K1.

Anyway, too bad Fedor didn't get to come to the UFC, and shame on him and Dana for not being able to come to SOME kind of agreement so that fight fans could see some potentially great bouts.

[amat]

1.85 total payroll for UFC 100, the biggest event of the UFC year, and you somehow think that's at all right? Could you imagine if 2 boxers fought and got over a million PPV buys, and they split a 1.85 million dollar pot with 8 other fighters on the card. No way it's not fair where are those millions and millions of dollars that's not going to the fighters going? Really now, any fight fan should be wanting more money for the fighters and really, for how much hype that fight got, 400 thousand for Lesnar and 45K for Mir? Seriously, 45 thousand? I don't care how much sponsors give him he should get a waaaaay better payout then that.

400K is like what Berto got for fighting Collazo maybe even less.

[JT Rock]

1.85 total payroll for UFC 100, the biggest event of the UFC year, and you somehow think that's at all right? Could you imagine if 2 boxers fought and got over a million PPV buys, and they split a 1.85 million dollar pot with 8 other fighters on the card. No way it's not fair where are those millions and millions of dollars that's not going to the fighters going? Really now, any fight fan should be wanting more money for the fighters and really, for how much hype that fight got, 400 thousand for Lesnar and 45K for Mir? Seriously, 45 thousand? I don't care how much sponsors give him he should get a waaaaay better payout then that.

400K is like what Berto got for fighting Collazo maybe even less.

It is what it is dude, whether you like it or not... I dont hear those guys crying poverty one bit. What I do see is a company that has managed to dominate the promotion of a sport to the point that no one else can even sniff the success they enjoy.

[JT Rock]

So Werdum, Rodgers and Oversteem are going to round out his career...

Please dont give me that shiit about Dana White, I am so fuking tired of hearing about he is a douche bag and blah, blah, blah. The guy has single handidly put MMA in the mainstream and has been more than fair with his fighters. The fact that Fedor thumbed his nose at a bizillion dollars, was going to immediately fight for a title and wear M-1 global on all his shit and prepared tea like Dr Fukin Zhivago is more than fair,

I am a HUGE Ginormous Fedor fan and would love him to put it on Brock and bring his cool quit demeanor to the UFC and run the table, but please dont give me that I wouldnt work for a douche like Dana White shiit, because money talks and bullshit walks and Dana stuffed a bull full of greenbacks and walked it over to Fedor... Its stupid to have to co promote a whole gotdam organization that sells 1.5 millon units per paperview with one fighter who never bested 300,000 units on his best day

1.5 mil per ppv? More like one time they sold on 1.5 million pay per views

If Joe Torre was asked where does Roy Halladay rank among the best pitchers in baseball and Torre said that Halladay was a bum, not a top 10 pitcher in his own division, Hiroki Kuroda is better then Roy Halladay ect. The chances are that when Halladay was a free agent he would make it a point that when the Dodgers came offering, Halladay would tell them to fuck off.

It's not that he's just an asshole, he's been on record calling this guy that he's now trying to make a whole lot of money off a bum! Dana White isn't a business man.

No disrespect Amat but besides buying a dime what business deals have you closed in your teenage life?

Bad analogy and trust me that shiit you mentioned dosent matter.. The money, comp, glory and legacy are all in the UFC. Not in a fly by night organization like Strikeforce..

[Majesty]

So Werdum, Rodgers and Oversteem are going to round out his career...

Please dont give me that shiit about Dana White, I am so fuking tired of hearing about he is a douche bag and blah, blah, blah. The guy has single handidly put MMA in the mainstream and has been more than fair with his fighters. The fact that Fedor thumbed his nose at a bizillion dollars, was going to immediately fight for a title and wear M-1 global on all his shit and prepared tea like Dr Fukin Zhivago is more than fair,

I am a HUGE Ginormous Fedor fan and would love him to put it on Brock and bring his cool quit demeanor to the UFC and run the table, but please dont give me that I wouldnt work for a douche like Dana White shiit, because money talks and bullshit walks and Dana stuffed a bull full of greenbacks and walked it over to Fedor... Its stupid to have to co promote a whole gotdam organization that sells 1.5 millon units per paperview with one fighter who never bested 300,000 units on his best day

1.5 mil per ppv? More like one time they sold on 1.5 million pay per views

If Joe Torre was asked where does Roy Halladay rank among the best pitchers in baseball and Torre said that Halladay was a bum, not a top 10 pitcher in his own division, Hiroki Kuroda is better then Roy Halladay ect. The chances are that when Halladay was a free agent he would make it a point that when the Dodgers came offering, Halladay would tell them to fuck off.

It's not that he's just an asshole, he's been on record calling this guy that he's now trying to make a whole lot of money off a bum! Dana White isn't a business man.

No disrespect Amat but besides buying a dime what business deals have you closed in your teenage life?

Bad analogy and trust me that shiit you mentioned dosent matter.. The money, comp, glory and legacy are all in the UFC. Not in a fly by night organization like Strikeforce..

Very true JT Rock if all you people defending Fedor saying "Oh he said this about Fedor he shouldnt sign he isnt a business man" Keep in mind in that same article it says HE SIGNED BACK TITO ORTIZ! And we know what those guys have gone through for years and it was a hell of a lot more then Dana ever did to Fedor and yet Tito is back in the octagon, and why? Because Tito says he wants to fight the best, he says he could make a bunch of money in Strikeforce but that he wouldn't feel like he is fighting the best, he didn't wanna be a big fish in a small pond and I respect him for that. Fedor is just fine with being a big fish and a small pond and no one wants to bash him because they are Fedor followers, if ANY other fighter made a decision like that(like lets say Floyd Mayweather) everyone of you would be jumping on him saying he was avoiding fighting the best and was a fool to say no on the offer. But if Fedor does it its just fine because "Dana white is a jerk". Listen to yourselves people.

[Kev]

I think Fedor is missing out in all honesty.

He may be the best heavyweight in the world, he may be even the best p4p fighter in the world but it doesn't mean anything if he's not fighting on the centre stage.

Strikforce are unlikely to make him a superstar and beating Overeems won't equate to beating Brock Lesnar.

I think the average MMA doesn't really care about Fedor, he's just a name, this supposed great star, much like a boxer who spends his career in his own country and never fights in America, imagine Joe Calzaghe had he not gone to Vegas for the fights with Hopkins and Jones. Even after beating Kessler and Lacy he was still Joe Who? in the US and non UK fans couldn't care less about him as evidenced by his fights getting some of the worst viewing figures in HBO's history I believe.

Fedor could have become a household name across America and in much of the world had he joined the UFC, as it is he will likely just remain a name and a vague shadowy figure that most people have heard of but no little about.