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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Actually Mosley has had a great career but the bad on his part has been management, promotion etc......He was always overshadowed by DLH and Trinidad when he was always a better fighter then either of the two.......

    I think instead of saying his career has been somewhat of a disappointment it is more like it is disappointing the treatment he has been given during his career...Even the media has somewhat made him a backburner fighter.....
    As much as I like Mosley, part of that is his fault. He's never really sold himself to anyone other than your hardcore fight fan. Many casual fans either don't know who he is or have an association with him through only Oscar & the steroid controversy (his name comes up often in wider sports stories about drug abuse).

    He's not that far behind Mayweather & Pacquiao in terms of his fight legacy, in many eyes probably equal, yet he remains off the radar of many. Part of this is story & personality, which Mosley lacks in terms of selling himself. When Mayweather did an open workout in London, people came from all over & Sky estimated that over 3000 people turned up throughout the day. I reckon Pacquiao could do similar, maybe not quite as much, but I still reckon he'd have at least 1000+ throughout the day. Mosley might get a few hundred at best. Some of that is poor management, but its not like Shane hasn't had the opportunities to catapult himself into super-stardom, hell he beat Oscar TWICE.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    Mosley's been champion in 3 weight classes. He's made millions. And he's going to the Hall of Fame when retires. I want a disappointing career like that.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    Shane Mosley is one of the best Lightweight champions ever.His finest moment was the first DLH fight at 147lb, he was great in that fight, he won it fair and square. He looked invincible at 147lb then inexplicably loses to Forrest twice? He beats DLH again in a very dubious decision and has had many mediocre performances since until he teaches Margaritio a lesson.
    You can't change what has happened in the past, i would have liked him to face Tszyu in 1999 before DLH for example, but he can fight Cotto again and that is something i want to see. This inactivity is hurting him currently at his age and he must look at fighting again soon.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    The guy's never been stopped (proving one of the best chin's in boxing history), stamped his legacy as arguably the greatest lightweight in history along side Roberto Duran, gave Oscar his first true loss when he was in his prime, and went after every fighter the boxing public wanted to see him in the ring with. The words 'Mosley' and 'Disappointment' do not belong in the same sentence.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post
    The guy's never been stopped (proving one of the best chin's in boxing history), stamped his legacy as arguably the greatest lightweight in history along side Roberto Duran, gave Oscar his first true loss when he was in his prime, and went after every fighter the boxing public wanted to see him in the ring with. The words 'Mosley' and 'Disappointment' do not belong in the same sentence.
    ps-everything north of welterweight is beyond his optimum weight classes, you don't knock a guy for knocking people out when their doing it above their best weight class.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    I see little wrong with his career. He has always been willing to fight whoever is out there, even if it might be a high risk/low reward fight like with Winky. Forrest just seemed to have his number. I think he turned things around extremely well against Margarito after looking somewhat shot against Mayorga. No doubt this current inactivity is hurting him. I can see him following up Margarito with a lazy showing like the Mayorga one due to inactivity and rustiness. He's 38, should have fought by now just to stay busy and keep the bank balance ticking over. You earn nothing by doing nothing ans sitting and waiting....and waiting....and waiting.

    A Berto fight sounds reasonable and is one Mosley should win, but it will be interesting to see how sharp he is.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    I see things wrong with his outcome as a boxer, he is perhaps the only athlete who had all the intangibles that Sugar Ray Robinson had, he had power, speed, stamina, durability, speed, competitiveness, and an impenetrable chin, but I think his dad coaching him was one of those situations where his potential wasn't fully utilized, he never box in a pure sense the way he could have, he was/is way too robotic, his jab isn't sharp, he doesn't have a good cross, and he tends to load up too much on hooks which limits his combinations.

    Mosley is a prime example of why its wrong to say I just love talent/athleticism because who had more of these two things than SHane Mosley? He has the perfect boxing body, and I don't think he is all that.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post
    The guy's never been stopped (proving one of the best chin's in boxing history), stamped his legacy as arguably the greatest lightweight in history along side Roberto Duran, gave Oscar his first true loss when he was in his prime, and went after every fighter the boxing public wanted to see him in the ring with. The words 'Mosley' and 'Disappointment' do not belong in the same sentence.
    Who did Mosley beat at lightweight to deserve recognition alongside the original Leonard, Duran, etc.?

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    I dont really agree with this topic title. He has had one of the most successful careers of the modern era. I dont know by what standards that it would be disapointed unless people were expecting him to eclipse Sugar Ray Robinson or summat.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    You are way off base. He is an ATG no matter what he does now. He has taken risks that Mayweather would never take and the fights he has lost were against exceptional fighters.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post
    The guy's never been stopped (proving one of the best chin's in boxing history), stamped his legacy as arguably the greatest lightweight in history along side Roberto Duran, gave Oscar his first true loss when he was in his prime, and went after every fighter the boxing public wanted to see him in the ring with. The words 'Mosley' and 'Disappointment' do not belong in the same sentence.
    Who did Mosley beat at lightweight to deserve recognition alongside the original Leonard, Duran, etc.?
    His list of opponents does not equal Duran's (don't know why you said Leonard as he fought virtually his entire career at welterweight and above), but Mosely essentially never lost a single round as a lightweight and is universally considered as the only 135 lber who could have possibly beaten Duran.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post
    The guy's never been stopped (proving one of the best chin's in boxing history), stamped his legacy as arguably the greatest lightweight in history along side Roberto Duran, gave Oscar his first true loss when he was in his prime, and went after every fighter the boxing public wanted to see him in the ring with. The words 'Mosley' and 'Disappointment' do not belong in the same sentence.
    Who did Mosley beat at lightweight to deserve recognition alongside the original Leonard, Duran, etc.?
    His list of opponents does not equal Duran's (don't know why you said Leonard as he fought virtually his entire career at welterweight and above), but Mosely essentially never lost a single round as a lightweight and is universally considered as the only 135 lber who could have possibly beaten Duran.
    Pernell Whitaker

    In fact additionally there's Benny Leonard, Hank Armstrong, Ike Williams, Joe Gans, Alexis Arguello & Floyd Mayweather who I think were all capable of beating Duran at 135. Mosley was a hell of a LW, but he's not the best or 2nd best ever by any means

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post
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    The guy's never been stopped (proving one of the best chin's in boxing history), stamped his legacy as arguably the greatest lightweight in history along side Roberto Duran, gave Oscar his first true loss when he was in his prime, and went after every fighter the boxing public wanted to see him in the ring with. The words 'Mosley' and 'Disappointment' do not belong in the same sentence.
    Who did Mosley beat at lightweight to deserve recognition alongside the original Leonard, Duran, etc.?
    His list of opponents does not equal Duran's (don't know why you said Leonard as he fought virtually his entire career at welterweight and above), but Mosely essentially never lost a single round as a lightweight and is universally considered as the only 135 lber who could have possibly beaten Duran.
    Your thinking of the wrong Leonard. IMO Floyd would have beaten Duran at lightweight more often than Mosley, same with Whitaker.

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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

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    Mosley's been champion in 3 weight classes. He's made millions. And he's going to the Hall of Fame when retires. I want a disappointing career like that.
    Isn't that the truth
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    Default Re: Shane Mosley's career = Somewhat of a Disappointment

    I would say Mosley is close or the same legacy wise with Pac, Mayweather, Benard and Jones when comes to resume and talent. But he is not the Robinson, or even the Leonard people thought he would be. But i mena those are the number one and top ten fighters ever though.

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