Lyle's, Pick'em Hypothetical Fights

[El Kabong]

OK I thought of a few more (I'm going to have to think of maybe 5-10 before I post another set), but keep this debate going, I like it! Every point that is made about each of these fights I tend to switch sides...you guys are doing wonderfully backing up your points as well.

[El Kabong]

OK, I hate to re-use some of the fighters I have already mentioned but here it goes.

Ken Norton - Evander Holyfield: Both big strong awkward fighters who beat THE BEST fighter(s) of their era with Norton beating Ali and Evander beating Tyson and Lewis. Norton was seemingly only bothered by HUGE punchers like Foreman, Shavers, and Cooney...Evander could punch, but not that hard. I see a battle closer than the Bowe-Holyfield fights.

Joe Fazier - Riddick Bowe: Now of course Riddick was big and strong, but he was often lazy in the ring giving up his height and reach and Joe Frazier could take a punch, in fact he could take several, and nobody had more will in their body than he did and if Evander Holyfield could drop Bowe then I think it's a forgone conclusion that Frazier's left hook could do damage to Riddick.

Jersey Joe Walcott - James Toney (190-210): Jersey Joe and Toney were very slick fighters who were defensively sound yet provided solid offense and power.


More to come later

[Master]

Ken Norton - Evander Holyfield: Holyfield Pts.
Joe Fazier - Riddick Bowe: Bowe pts in an epic battle
Jersey Joe Walcott - James Toney (190-210): Jersey Joe too slick and experienced for Toney at this weight. He would not fall for the tricks of Toney as he invented most of them that Toney uses. Pts victory Walcott.

[El Kabong]

I've finally thought up some new fights

Vasiliy Jirov-Tomaz Adamek (cruiserweight) - I think Jirov was probably the best cruiserweight post-Holyfield and Adamek is coming closer to matching Jirov's domination with each passing fight. I think Jirov can hurt Adamek and end up winning the fight. Your thoughts?

Kelly Pavlik-Steve Collins (160) -Kelly has been in with several different types of fighters and he's been hurt by a guy like Jermain Taylor who has below average power and I think constant pressure applied by a guy like Steve Collins could burst Pavlik's pipes.

Joe Louis-Sonny Liston - An intriguing match between two of the most devistating power punchers the heavyweight division has ever seen. Louis was apt to get knocked down, but he was only stopped twice 1 gas out and 1 vicious KO at the hands of Rocky Marciano at the tail end of his career. Liston was easy to hit, but was very dangerous.

Felix Trinidad-Mike McCallum (154) - Both quality fighters who were excellent at what they did Tito with his power punching and McCallum with the work to the body. I am not sure how Trinidad would react to the body shots that Mac could dish out.

[Spicoli]

Nice ones Lyle.

Jirov/Adamek:Have to go with Jirov.Not a sharp straight right thats able to get to Adamek but just a rough and tumble fight.Both are far to willing to mix it up but Jirov cagey,mixes inside very well and that body work is an early investment.

Pavlik/Collins:Collins was a steady drip and as solid as they came.Way too much experience in deep fights for Kelly I believe.

Louis/Liston: Oh man this is just x rated.That jab would be hell on Louis early on and could see him being badly hurt.But in the end I think he finds a way and brings Liston some doubts with the late power surge for a win.

McCallum/Trinidad:Will not ever....eveeeeeeer bet against a primed Body snatcher at 154.Tito carried the weight well but McCallum would tie him in knots.Beard was very solid and could see him being countered repeatedly as he became more wide open for a McCallum TKO.

[OumaFan]

I'm gonna hijack and throw in a mythical fight I think could have been kind of awesome

Tommy Morrison vs Smokin Bert Cooper

[El Kabong]

Good in depth analysis Spicoli, I see those fights going much the same way.

Ouma, that's a tough one to call, Tommy could crack but could he handle Cooper's power