Who's higher P4P of all time

[gest12645]

Roy Jones Jr
Joe Calzaghe
B-Hop ?

Prime RJJ beat Prime Hopkins
Calzaghe beat an old Jones easy
Calzaghe beat an old Hopkins in a close fight

Tough call cause RJJ was better at his prime than both but Calzaaghe is undefeated and B-HOp is still one of the best at 43 while Jones is not nearly as good

For me its 1) RJJ 2) Hopkins 3) JOE C

Opinions...

[Master]

Yes agreed only because Joe wasted his peak from Eubanks to Lacy.

[Kev]

Yeah Jones, Hopkins, Calzaghe is the way Id see it.

[Spicoli]

I would'nt say Jones beat a prime Hopkins really.Jones was far ahead in Pedigree,amatuer and network exposure and Hopkins was still in his early seek and destroy mindset.But he beat him none the less.

Depends again on that always blurry definition of p4p.On pure boxing skillset,I give it to Hopkins.On speed,reflex and instinct...Jones by far.On 'names' minus the *'s about being shot,past prime...Its Joe.I need aspirin now.

[littlebif]

I agree with gest1264,it could of been different if Joe had got some more big fights in his career.

[JazMerkin]

I see it Hopkins just ahead of Jones, & then a larger gap to Calzaghe. All are Top 75 ATGs for me though

[DaxxKahn]

I go with

Hopkins- he has had such longevity..he made himself a legend with almost no amateur experience...at 45 he is still going strong....he has really only been soundly defeated once and thawas a pretty raw Hopkins versus a prime Jones who had tons of amateur experience

Jones- lived up to his amateur expectences...Was a phenom at smw...went from MW to HW winning championships.....What detrtacts is Jones spent a lot of time fighting second tier challengers and turned down his toughest challenges during his prime years

Calzaghe- Joe has all the goods for sure and in the last years of his career he turned me into a big fan but he allowed Warren to manage him too long and linger with second tier opp....

Though there is no question on the place all 3 belong....3 of the top P4P of all time

[Violent Demise]

Roy Jones Jr
Joe Calzaghe
B-Hop ?

Prime RJJ beat Prime Hopkins
Calzaghe beat an old Jones easy
Calzaghe beat an old Hopkins in a close fight

Tough call cause RJJ was better at his prime than both but Calzaaghe is undefeated and B-HOp is still one of the best at 43 while Jones is not nearly as good

For me its 1) RJJ 2) Hopkins 3) JOE C

Opinions...

I got it

1, R. Jones
2, B. Hopkins
3, S. Ottke
4, J. Calzaghe

[Drago]

Roy Jones Jr
Joe Calzaghe
B-Hop ?

Prime RJJ beat Prime Hopkins
Calzaghe beat an old Jones easy
Calzaghe beat an old Hopkins in a close fight

Tough call cause RJJ was better at his prime than both but Calzaaghe is undefeated and B-HOp is still one of the best at 43 while Jones is not nearly as good

For me its 1) RJJ 2) Hopkins 3) JOE C

Opinions...

I got it

1, R. Jones
2, B. Hopkins
3, S. Ottke
4, J. Calzaghe

ha ha u been on the crack pipe again?

[Julius Rain]

Roy Jones Jr
Joe Calzaghe
B-Hop ?

Prime RJJ beat Prime Hopkins
Calzaghe beat an old Jones easy
Calzaghe beat an old Hopkins in a close fight

Tough call cause RJJ was better at his prime than both but Calzaaghe is undefeated and B-HOp is still one of the best at 43 while Jones is not nearly as good

For me its 1) RJJ 2) Hopkins 3) JOE C

Opinions...

I got it

1, R. Jones
2, B. Hopkins
39, S. Ottke
40, J. Calzaghe

i gotta agree.

[Fenster]

1. Roy
2. Calzaghe
3. Hopkins

I don't think Hopkins beat anyone that Calzaghe and Jones (I don't think Roy would have lost to Tarver or Johnson had he not jumped up to heavyweight). would have been troubled by.

Hopkins lost twice to Taylor. I could never see a weak finisher like Taylor going 24 rounds with either Calzaghe or Roy. They would not need to be "prime" to KO him.

Finally, both Roy and Calzaghe beat Hopkins on the back of him showing top winning form before and after, so no real excuses. Hopkins ranks third of the three.

[BIG H]

I don't think B-Hop's opposition at Middleweight was any better than Calzaghe's at SMW, but I do think (and it's subjective) that B-Hop is/was a better fighter than JC


The big blip on Hopkins career for mwe is the 2 losses to JT. Those fights were there to be won, but only fought for the last 4 rounds in each fight.

[kingfrnk]

1. Hopkins
2. Jones
3. Calzaghe

[Fenster]

I don't think B-Hop's opposition at Middleweight was any better than Calzaghe's at SMW, but I do think (and it's subjective) that B-Hop is/was a better fighter than JC


The big blip on Hopkins career for mwe is the 2 losses to JT. Those fights were there to be won, but only fought for the last 4 rounds in each fight.

I don't see Hopkins no way near as talented as either of them. What he lacked in talent though he made up for in guile.

He's the Peter Ebdon of boxing.

[Gandalf]

1. Roy
2. Calzaghe
3. Hopkins

I don't think Hopkins beat anyone that Calzaghe and Jones (I don't think Roy would have lost to Tarver or Johnson had he not jumped up to heavyweight). would have been troubled by.

Hopkins lost twice to Taylor. I could never see a weak finisher like Taylor going 24 rounds with either Calzaghe or Roy. They would not need to be "prime" to KO him.

Finally, both Roy and Calzaghe beat Hopkins on the back of him showing top winning form before and after, so no real excuses. Hopkins ranks third of the three.

That's a sound logic so I would have it the same way.