Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

[OumaFan]

ha, I was just about to post this.

I like it. A lot actually.

I might favor Williams, but I think people are probably underrating Pav after the Hopkins fight.

If Pavlik had a hard time with Hopkin's volume, what chance does he stand against Williams. I may be underestimating Pavlik and I hope so for the sake of an interesting fight, but Williams should look really good against anyone that doesn't have amazing footwork...............

I don't think it was Hopkins volume, he didn't really throw that much if I remember correctly (well for him he did but not compared to many guys), its just Hopkins, nobody looks good against him, granted Pav looked worse than most but that's not really shocking, Pavlik is everything Hopkins could ever want stylistically, a guy that's slow of hand and foot and needs to be set to punch is always gonna have problems with Hopkins movement and Hopkins is probably still the best in boxing at taking away a fighters jab and if you watch Pavlik everything he does revolves around the jab, everything starts with it, the jab-right hand is his meal ticket. Take it away, make him hesitant to throw it and he's SOL. Really I picked Hopkins to win at the time but looking back I'm surprised I had any doubt, Pav was perfect for him.

Williams will bring a lot more volume but he'll be a much bigger target for Kelly, he's just not as slick as Bernard. He does move pretty well too which will trouble Kelly I think. That and Paul's volume could keep Pav on the defensive. So I'll probably pick Paul but Pav has chances here that weren't there against Hopkins, he'll land more right hands.

[killersheep]

ha, I was just about to post this.

I like it. A lot actually.

I might favor Williams, but I think people are probably underrating Pav after the Hopkins fight.

If Pavlik had a hard time with Hopkin's volume, what chance does he stand against Williams. I may be underestimating Pavlik and I hope so for the sake of an interesting fight, but Williams should look really good against anyone that doesn't have amazing footwork...............

I don't think it was Hopkins volume, he didn't really throw that much if I remember correctly (well for him he did but not compared to many guys), its just Hopkins, nobody looks good against him, granted Pav looked worse than most but that's not really shocking, Pavlik is everything Hopkins could ever want stylistically, a guy that's slow of hand and foot and needs to be set to punch is always gonna have problems with Hopkins movement and Hopkins is probably still the best in boxing at taking away a fighters jab and if you watch Pavlik everything he does revolves around the jab, everything starts with it, the jab-right hand is his meal ticket. Take it away, make him hesitant to throw it and he's SOL. Really I picked Hopkins to win at the time but looking back I'm surprised I had any doubt, Pav was perfect for him.

Williams will bring a lot more volume but he'll be a much bigger target for Kelly, he's just not as slick as Bernard. He does move pretty well too which will trouble Kelly I think. That and Paul's volume could keep Pav on the defensive. So I'll probably pick Paul but Pav has chances here that weren't there against Hopkins, he'll land more right hands.

Williams doesn't only bring volume he also brings a 20 foot reach. In the B-Hop fight fight, I really believe the Hopkins volume and constant pressure are what won that fight for him, he had Kelly doing a Winky Wright defense impression all night.

[Spicoli]

Really split on how Williams should fight him.We know Pavlik,what you see is pretty much what you get,forward motion wrecking ball......I think it'll come down to Williams style....he rarely (Margarito fight) fights tall and uses natural freaky tools.More commonly bends in,head up but with huuuuge volume.Mixed it nice with Verno,head to body.Have to lean even more so to Pavlik.Rue Paul has to repect that straight power,and he gets clipped quite a bit.

Can they just move things forward and make this one for nextweek

[killersheep]

Really split on how Williams should fight him.We know Pavlik,what you see is pretty much what you get,forward motion wrecking ball......I think it'll come down to Williams style....he rarely (Margarito fight) fights tall and uses natural freaky tools.More commonly bends in,head up but with huuuuge volume.Mixed it nice with Verno,head to body.Have to lean even more so to Pavlik.Rue Paul has to repect that straight power,and he gets clipped quite a bit.

Can they just move things forward and make this one for nextweek

Put this on the Jones - Lacy undercard and all of a sudden I'm paying for it.

[SweetPea]

Two fighters who stand flat-footed, let their hands go, and "hit and get hit."

Great matchup. I can't wait.

[Galaxy]

Man this is a good fight! Really glad they got it sorted, hard fight to pick imo... might have to slightly favor Pavlik at 1st glance but might end up changing my mind the closer it gets to fight time!

[armin]

Williams is slick but kelly will have plenty of chances to tag him. Even after the bernard loss I favor kelly in this, that fight was above 160, and in both instances against jt and bhop weight above 160 kelly just doesn't seem as good. Granted the bhop fight could have been fought at whatever weight and he would have lost it.

[Kev]

This will be a great fight!

Not sure who will win. Pavlik obviously has doubts surrounding him following his loss to B Hop but I really believe that was more to do with Pavlik having the worst night of his career rather than him being outboxed as comprehensively as some think. I'd still fancy Pavliks chances in a rematch with Hopkins, I don't think he gave anywhere near his best that night.

Williams is a real threat but he did fade a little against Margarito in the final rounds, although at welter I'm guessing he has to struggle hard to make that weight.

We know Pavlik can go 12 rounds and he can really bang. Williams has always looked fragile although at 168 he will have clearly filled out.

I really can't call it. I'd like Kelly to pull it off, everyone seems to have hopped onto that bandwagon following his sensational KO wins over Miranda and Taylor, and then all got off at the first stop following his uninspired defeat to B Hop.

He showed against Rubio though that he is excellent at wearing down and demoralising decent opposition and it will be interesting to see how Williams reacts to that.

I actually think there is a chance Williams could get stopped on cuts, I think he's going to get bloodied up a bit, although he's always seemed a suprisingly durable guy for his frail, bony form so I think he will survive the distance otherwise.

[Violent Demise]

I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him

[El Kabong]

I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him

I think Williams stops Pavlik late...he's a southpaw, he can carry his power, he throws punches in volume, and he's got a very solid chin, I am sure he will pay close attention to defense fighting someone like Pavlik.

[RP33]

I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him

I think Williams stops Pavlik late...he's a southpaw, he can carry his power, he throws punches in volume, and he's got a very solid chin, I am sure he will pay close attention to defense fighting someone like Pavlik.

Williams by TKO/KO?! I mean, i think it's a fair fight, but I don't see Williams knocking out Kelly.. BHOP landed plenty of flush shots and all it did was stun him.. Taylor landed some bombs and almost had him out but couldn't finish.. I don't think Williams should even think of going into this fight with KO on his mind because that will mean he will have to sit on his punches a bit more, leaving him more vulnerable to get hit. He will need to punch and move like he normally does.

[ICB]

I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him

Paul Williams will give Kelly Pavlik alot of angles though, and Kelly Pavlik needs to set his feet too punch. Which is why he couldn't land nothing on B-Hop. Also Paul Williams has a 7 inch reach advantage.

But i still do think people are underestimating Kelly Pavlik, remember he can still bang and he moved up too many weightclasses. Against B-Hop which is why he looked sluggish and it wasn't all too do with B-Hop either.

And remember Paul Williams hasn't ever fought a puncher, except for Walter Dario Matthysse. But that was at Welterweight not Middleweight, we don't know how good Paul Williams chin is really.

The smart money is with Paul Williams, and im going with Paul Williams myself. But i wouldn't be suprised if Kelly Pavlik was able to lay him out, he does hit pretty hard.

[littlebif]

Williams by UD.Pavlik needs time to set his double jab then the straight right.He will not be aloud to get his timing as Williams will be throwing punches at him all night long.

[Majesty]

Pavlik's only chance is to land his big right hand and that's about it.

[Dizaster]

I hope Pavlik has his life away from boxing in order coming into this fight also... It was sad reading that he went on a bit of a downer after the Hopkins fight... It really was a destroying fight for Pavlik, and not just for the 12 rounds, but you could see his heart was broken after that fight... A bit like Hatton in the interviews after his Pac KO, those sort of beatings make you go off and think about your whole life.... What you thought was one thing you're whole career is suddenly totally gone...
I hope Pavlik is getting his shit back in alignment and comes back as big and as strong as he was before Hopkins... He's a good dimension for boxing, a real likeable guy, and it would at least be great to see him do good in this fight even if Williams is to much.. Williams is exciting in his own right so providing Pavlik shows up with his shit together it'll be a great fight whoever wins..