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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Really split on how Williams should fight him.We know Pavlik,what you see is pretty much what you get,forward motion wrecking ball......I think it'll come down to Williams style....he rarely (Margarito fight) fights tall and uses natural freaky tools.More commonly bends in,head up but with huuuuge volume.Mixed it nice with Verno,head to body.Have to lean even more so to Pavlik.Rue Paul has to repect that straight power,and he gets clipped quite a bit.

    Can they just move things forward and make this one for nextweek

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Really split on how Williams should fight him.We know Pavlik,what you see is pretty much what you get,forward motion wrecking ball......I think it'll come down to Williams style....he rarely (Margarito fight) fights tall and uses natural freaky tools.More commonly bends in,head up but with huuuuge volume.Mixed it nice with Verno,head to body.Have to lean even more so to Pavlik.Rue Paul has to repect that straight power,and he gets clipped quite a bit.

    Can they just move things forward and make this one for nextweek
    Put this on the Jones - Lacy undercard and all of a sudden I'm paying for it.
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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Two fighters who stand flat-footed, let their hands go, and "hit and get hit."

    Great matchup. I can't wait.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Man this is a good fight! Really glad they got it sorted, hard fight to pick imo... might have to slightly favor Pavlik at 1st glance but might end up changing my mind the closer it gets to fight time!
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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Williams is slick but kelly will have plenty of chances to tag him. Even after the bernard loss I favor kelly in this, that fight was above 160, and in both instances against jt and bhop weight above 160 kelly just doesn't seem as good. Granted the bhop fight could have been fought at whatever weight and he would have lost it.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    This will be a great fight!

    Not sure who will win. Pavlik obviously has doubts surrounding him following his loss to B Hop but I really believe that was more to do with Pavlik having the worst night of his career rather than him being outboxed as comprehensively as some think. I'd still fancy Pavliks chances in a rematch with Hopkins, I don't think he gave anywhere near his best that night.

    Williams is a real threat but he did fade a little against Margarito in the final rounds, although at welter I'm guessing he has to struggle hard to make that weight.

    We know Pavlik can go 12 rounds and he can really bang. Williams has always looked fragile although at 168 he will have clearly filled out.

    I really can't call it. I'd like Kelly to pull it off, everyone seems to have hopped onto that bandwagon following his sensational KO wins over Miranda and Taylor, and then all got off at the first stop following his uninspired defeat to B Hop.

    He showed against Rubio though that he is excellent at wearing down and demoralising decent opposition and it will be interesting to see how Williams reacts to that.

    I actually think there is a chance Williams could get stopped on cuts, I think he's going to get bloodied up a bit, although he's always seemed a suprisingly durable guy for his frail, bony form so I think he will survive the distance otherwise.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    This will be a great fight!

    Not sure who will win. Pavlik obviously has doubts surrounding him following his loss to B Hop but I really believe that was more to do with Pavlik having the worst night of his career rather than him being outboxed as comprehensively as some think. I'd still fancy Pavliks chances in a rematch with Hopkins, I don't think he gave anywhere near his best that night.

    Williams is a real threat but he did fade a little against Margarito in the final rounds, although at welter I'm guessing he has to struggle hard to make that weight.

    We know Pavlik can go 12 rounds and he can really bang. Williams has always looked fragile although at 168 he will have clearly filled out.

    I really can't call it. I'd like Kelly to pull it off, everyone seems to have hopped onto that bandwagon following his sensational KO wins over Miranda and Taylor, and then all got off at the first stop following his uninspired defeat to B Hop.

    He showed against Rubio though that he is excellent at wearing down and demoralising decent opposition and it will be interesting to see how Williams reacts to that.

    I actually think there is a chance Williams could get stopped on cuts, I think he's going to get bloodied up a bit, although he's always seemed a suprisingly durable guy for his frail, bony form so I think he will survive the distance otherwise.
    The fight will be at 160.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    this is awesome news.

    it's really hard to call this fight as you can't really pin which style PW will use.. He has the skills to outwork kelly and to move around the ring away from kelly's power, and if he keeps him at bay with his jab then he has a good chance at a wide UD.. but when have we really seen PW do this? he may be in over his head, but it will really be hard to tell until they're in the ring and we see how big the speed difference is, and how PW approaches kelly..

    i say pavlik by KO.. not TKO, KO.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
    This will be a great fight!

    Not sure who will win. Pavlik obviously has doubts surrounding him following his loss to B Hop but I really believe that was more to do with Pavlik having the worst night of his career rather than him being outboxed as comprehensively as some think. I'd still fancy Pavliks chances in a rematch with Hopkins, I don't think he gave anywhere near his best that night.

    Williams is a real threat but he did fade a little against Margarito in the final rounds, although at welter I'm guessing he has to struggle hard to make that weight.

    We know Pavlik can go 12 rounds and he can really bang. Williams has always looked fragile although at 168 he will have clearly filled out.

    I really can't call it. I'd like Kelly to pull it off, everyone seems to have hopped onto that bandwagon following his sensational KO wins over Miranda and Taylor, and then all got off at the first stop following his uninspired defeat to B Hop.

    He showed against Rubio though that he is excellent at wearing down and demoralising decent opposition and it will be interesting to see how Williams reacts to that.

    I actually think there is a chance Williams could get stopped on cuts, I think he's going to get bloodied up a bit, although he's always seemed a suprisingly durable guy for his frail, bony form so I think he will survive the distance otherwise.
    The fight will be at 160.

    yeah I mean that just a typo.

    50/50 matchup imo

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him
    I think Williams stops Pavlik late...he's a southpaw, he can carry his power, he throws punches in volume, and he's got a very solid chin, I am sure he will pay close attention to defense fighting someone like Pavlik.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him
    I think Williams stops Pavlik late...he's a southpaw, he can carry his power, he throws punches in volume, and he's got a very solid chin, I am sure he will pay close attention to defense fighting someone like Pavlik.
    Williams by TKO/KO?! I mean, i think it's a fair fight, but I don't see Williams knocking out Kelly.. BHOP landed plenty of flush shots and all it did was stun him.. Taylor landed some bombs and almost had him out but couldn't finish.. I don't think Williams should even think of going into this fight with KO on his mind because that will mean he will have to sit on his punches a bit more, leaving him more vulnerable to get hit. He will need to punch and move like he normally does.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    I think Pavlik beats Williams. If Williams can be stunned by a welterweight easily as Quintana and Margarito has shown. I think Pavlik will stop him. Once Williams get's hit by one of Kelly's power shots to the body I don't think Williams' skinny rail of a frame will hold up to that type of power. Williams will give him fits but he will not hurt Kelly. Kelly by TKO.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Williams on points or a Pavlik KO. Either the Hopkins fight or something affected Pavlik, I'm sure not all the negative stuff we've heard recently is all true but he's definitely having problems. But he's going to be punching hard at 160 and that's his best chance. It could be fight of the year.

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    Default Re: Pavlik & Williams agree to terms, will fight on October 3rd

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    I think Pavlik lays him out. Williams poor defense will haunt him
    Paul Williams will give Kelly Pavlik alot of angles though, and Kelly Pavlik needs to set his feet too punch. Which is why he couldn't land nothing on B-Hop. Also Paul Williams has a 7 inch reach advantage.

    But i still do think people are underestimating Kelly Pavlik, remember he can still bang and he moved up too many weightclasses. Against B-Hop which is why he looked sluggish and it wasn't all too do with B-Hop either.

    And remember Paul Williams hasn't ever fought a puncher, except for Walter Dario Matthysse. But that was at Welterweight not Middleweight, we don't know how good Paul Williams chin is really.

    The smart money is with Paul Williams, and im going with Paul Williams myself. But i wouldn't be suprised if Kelly Pavlik was able to lay him out, he does hit pretty hard.

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