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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

    Are we really comparing Gomez with Diaz or Hatton Gomez had an impressive KO punch, but he was not a just come forward figther. He had great foot and upper body movements, not to mention a terrific body attack. As some people is saying he lost to guys like Sanchez and Nelson, who cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence than Diaz. These are among the all time greatest fighters.
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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

    Quote Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch View Post
    Are we really comparing Gomez with Diaz or Hatton Gomez had an impressive KO punch, but he was not a just come forward figther. He had great foot and upper body movements, not to mention a terrific body attack. As some people is saying he lost to guys like Sanchez and Nelson, who cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence than Diaz. These are among the all time greatest fighters.
    We're talking about How Gomez will survive Pac!!! Not Survive Diaz or hatton!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch View Post
    Are we really comparing Gomez with Diaz or Hatton Gomez had an impressive KO punch, but he was not a just come forward figther. He had great foot and upper body movements, not to mention a terrific body attack. As some people is saying he lost to guys like Sanchez and Nelson, who cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence than Diaz. These are among the all time greatest fighters.
    We're talking about How Gomez will survive Pac!!! Not Survive Diaz or hatton!!!!
    I don't know how a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao, survives the punching power of Wilfredo Gomez.

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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch View Post
    Are we really comparing Gomez with Diaz or Hatton Gomez had an impressive KO punch, but he was not a just come forward figther. He had great foot and upper body movements, not to mention a terrific body attack. As some people is saying he lost to guys like Sanchez and Nelson, who cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence than Diaz. These are among the all time greatest fighters.
    We're talking about How Gomez will survive Pac!!! Not Survive Diaz or hatton!!!!
    I don't know how a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao, survives the punching power of Wilfredo Gomez.
    Sorry ICB, but how is Manny one dimensional? The same way Miguel Cotto and JMM are? Pacquiao can box, brawl, fight forwards and backwards, he is getting hard to hit, he has great movement, speed, power, and a really good chin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    We're talking about How Gomez will survive Pac!!! Not Survive Diaz or hatton!!!!
    I don't know how a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao, survives the punching power of Wilfredo Gomez.
    Sorry ICB, but how is Manny one dimensional? The same way Miguel Cotto and JMM are? Pacquiao can box, brawl, fight forwards and backwards, he is getting hard to hit, he has great movement, speed, power, and a really good chin.
    We are talking about the Manny Pacquiao, at Super Bantamweight, Featherweight, here. Which is where this fight would take place. Were not on about the Manny Pacquiao of today, im not calling the Manny Pacquiao of today one dimensional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
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    I don't know how a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao, survives the punching power of Wilfredo Gomez.
    Sorry ICB, but how is Manny one dimensional? The same way Miguel Cotto and JMM are? Pacquiao can box, brawl, fight forwards and backwards, he is getting hard to hit, he has great movement, speed, power, and a really good chin.
    We are talking about the Manny Pacquiao, at Super Bantamweight, Featherweight, here. Which is where this fight would take place. Were not on about the Manny Pacquiao of today, im not calling the Manny Pacquiao of today one dimensional.
    Ok, that makes sense, but you can't say that Manny isn't/wasn't extremely effective at 122/126 because he was, and he would have been a great opponent for Gomez. I honestly think he would also give Sanchez and Azumah Nelson all they could handle if not more, they aren't any better than Barrera and company. I think they wouldn't have the power to stop Pacquiao like Gomez would, and that would play a huge factor, but then again they could also take a lot more punishment than Gomez.

    As for the person who said Gomez didn't ahve power above 122? Where is the proof of that? He didn't have the blinding speed to move like Pacman did which is the main reason for Manny's success at the higher weights. Nor did Gomez imo have Manny's chin. I just think Manny has adapted the right style to fight bigger guys and he properly uses his attributes. Because he uses so much movement and he has such quick feet he can avoid on coming damage against bigger slower guys that other guys like JMM who are at his level couldn't.

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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch View Post
    Are we really comparing Gomez with Diaz or Hatton Gomez had an impressive KO punch, but he was not a just come forward figther. He had great foot and upper body movements, not to mention a terrific body attack. As some people is saying he lost to guys like Sanchez and Nelson, who cannot even be mentioned in the same sentence than Diaz. These are among the all time greatest fighters.
    We're talking about How Gomez will survive Pac!!! Not Survive Diaz or hatton!!!!
    I don't know how a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao, survives the punching power of Wilfredo Gomez.
    Gomez power was good only at 122. Pac was Good from 122-147. Remember that all Pac wins at 122 were all KO also. The only guy he never Ko was the Dirty Sanchez coz the fights was stopped because of the cut.

    Gomez was Koed a number of times when he moved up in weight. Pac gets stronger & sturdier as he move up. Pac next opponent Cotto is the Supersized version of Gomez. He'll show you in November how it's done. I'll rebadge Pac's Monicker from Mexicutioner to Boriquacutioner come Nov 14th.

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    We're talking about How Gomez will survive Pac!!! Not Survive Diaz or hatton!!!!
    I don't know how a one dimensional Manny Pacquiao, survives the punching power of Wilfredo Gomez.
    Gomez power was good only at 122. Pac was Good from 122-147. Remember that all Pac wins at 122 were all KO also. The only guy he never Ko was the Dirty Sanchez coz the fights was stopped because of the cut.

    Gomez was Koed a number of times when he moved up in weight. Pac gets stronger & sturdier as he move up. Pac next opponent Cotto is the Supersized version of Gomez. He'll show you in November how it's done. I'll rebadge Pac's Monicker from Mexicutioner to Boriquacutioner come Nov 14th.
    See again your talking like you haven't a clue about Wilfredo Gomez, i already told you he was KO'ed by Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson. Would a Featherweight version of Manny Pacquiao, beat either of those 2 ? i think not.

    And i already told you the cirumstances, surronding those 2 fights, and how great they are. Yet you totally ignore my comment, and just keep stating Wilfredo Gomez was KO'ed a number of times at Featherweight.

    When he was only stopped twice by arguably, two of the finest Featherweights in atleast a good 50 years or so. And the Alfredo Layne fight does not count, because he was long gone by then.

    Be honest you have hardly seen any of Wilfredo Gomez fights, you really lose any credibility when you compare. Wilfredo Gomez to David Diaz, Ricky Hatton. Which is absolute ridiculous, and anyone who knows anything about Wilfredo Gomez would call you an idiot.

    But i'll just say your seriously reaching, which you are because you have limited. Knowledge on Wilfredo Gomez, and again Wilfredo Gomez is nothing like Miguel Cotto either. And i don't see what he has to do with this debate either.

    Wilfredo Gomez had good upper body movement. And had some very good boxing skills, along with his great power. And i don't think anyone who has watched Wilfredo Gomez, would consider him just a come-forawrd brawler. And when you state that it really leaves me with my mouth wide open.

    Manny Pacquiao has never really shown, one punch KO power. Except in the Ricky Hatton fight, he has always mostly had to beat down an opponent with an accumulation of punishment to stop an opponent.

    Lastly you say Wilfredo Gomez's power was only at Super Bantamweight, and you look at his record and see he had decision wins over fighters like Rocky Lockridge, but let me tell you something now fighters like Juan La Porte, Rocky Lockridge, Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson, had granite chins if Wilfredo Gomez would of stopped them it of been considered a shock.

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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

    When Gomez moved up in weight to challenge Sanchez, et. al. he didn't demand any catchweights either or demand any other weight restrictions. He took on the challenge like a true warrior.

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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

    at super-bantam gomez is unbeatable he beats pac .but at feather and super-feather pac wins by stoppage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    When Gomez moved up in weight to challenge Sanchez, et. al. he didn't demand any catchweights either or demand any other weight restrictions. He took on the challenge like a true warrior.
    Manny has had one catch weight fight, he went up to face Barrera, Morales, Hatton, De La Hoya, etc.

    The Miguel Cotto fight is the first fight he has done at a catch weight where Miguel has to lose two more pounds than usual? One more pound than his last fight?

    Gomez, along with a lot of other greats, wouldn't even dreamed of acclompishing what Manny has done in terms of the success he has had at higher weights.

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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

    Gomez would convincingly beat him. Maybe even stop him. Lotta ppl forget that Gomez at 122 is one of the best boxer ever, period.

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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

    Gomez didn't have good KO power at 122, he had incredible punching power regardless his weight, he's one of the hardest punchers of all time, and yes, Pacquiao was one sided at 122, whoever says different is blinded by their love for him, or have forgotten that he has not always been the fighter that he is today, so the Pacquiao that fought at 122 would have gotten KTFO if he would have tried to trade with Gomez, which he would have cause that's the only way he knew how to fight at that weight, and yea Taeth all 3 you mentioned managed to wobble Pacquiao (Morales, Barrera, and Marquez), Gomez wouldn't of wobbled him, he would of turned his lights out

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    Gomez would convincingly beat him. Maybe even stop him. Lotta ppl forget that Gomez at 122 is one of the best boxer ever, period.
    Hatton also was undefeated at 140 for 40+ fights. Pac takes him only in 2 rds. Gomez was forgettable coz He was not the top fighter in his generation. Sanchez is the one. But Sanchez also was cut short, He only fights at 126.

    If there's no Manny Pacquiao, Barrera & Morales could've equaled Sanchez's Greatness. Remember Erik's Iron Jaw at 122-126 Pac was the one to Cracked that at 130.

    So please stop Gloryfying your Chinny Chinned Boriqua Hero. He doesn't passed the requirement that is required to Make him Last 12 rds with the Pacman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jokaleras View Post
    Gomez would convincingly beat him. Maybe even stop him. Lotta ppl forget that Gomez at 122 is one of the best boxer ever, period.
    Hatton also was undefeated at 140 for 40+ fights. Pac takes him only in 2 rds. Gomez was forgettable coz He was not the top fighter in his generation. Sanchez is the one. But Sanchez also was cut short, He only fights at 126.

    If there's no Manny Pacquiao, Barrera & Morales could've equaled Sanchez's Greatness. Remember Erik's Iron Jaw at 122-126 Pac was the one to Cracked that at 130.

    So please stop Gloryfying your Chinny Chinned Boriqua Hero. He doesn't passed the requirement that is required to Make him Last 12 rds with the Pacman.
    I can't believe you just compared Ricky Hatton to Gomez. I'm not Puerto Rican by the way. Pacquiao at 122 isn't even the fighter he is now although he demolished a good boxer in Ledwaba.

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