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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

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    It would be a really good fight, Pacman certainly didn't have the skills he does now, but he was a beast around 122. That is the only version of him I see Gomez beating, I don't agree with what you said of Gomez's speed or movement, they are were ok, but he wasn't overly fast. I see the evolved version of Manny(after Morales 2) picking Gomez apart because he would be too quick and his in and out movement too good, but before that I see Gomez winning more often than not, Manny just didn't have enough dimensions to his game, and he was too easy to hit when facing a guy who can punch like W. Gomez.
    Gomez had amazing foot work, great lateral movements. Something I liked is that when he had his opponent hurt he still was attacking from angles to destroy it. Not the type of hand speed like a Floyd, but great lateral movements, not to mention his deadly body attack. This is the type of fight that could be remembered for ever due to the type of boxers they are (Gomez was). I certainly feel lot of respect for both of them.
    Gomez had alright movement, but you can't compare his footwork to the greats he didn't move like Leonard, Ali, Hopkins, Roy Jones, Mayweather, etc., nor did he have the great in and out movement of prime Tyson, Calzaghe, Hagler, Duran, JMM, and yes Manny pacquiao.

    Also people aren't giving the 122 pound Pacquiao enough credit, he was pretty one-dimensional, but he moved up and kicked Barrera's ass with that style, and gave Morales and JMM both all they could handle in their fights. His determination, speed, and heavyhands was enough to take on anyone. I mean all three of these mexicans are all heavy handed and were naturally bigger than Manny at that point in his career, and he still withstood their power fine, while Gomez was stopped by similar levels of competition. I rank Barrera, JMM, and Morales right up there with Sanchez and JCC, and above Azumah Nelson for sure.

    To say the 122-126 pound version of manny would be out of his league, is just an example of the continual disrespect he gets on here because there are other retards who think he is a god. I think Gomez beats him more often than not, before Manny learns how to really fight, but it would be a really close fight everytime, and if either of them were to dominate a fight it would be Manny.

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    Default Re: Wilfredo Gomez vs Pacman

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
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    It would be a really good fight, Pacman certainly didn't have the skills he does now, but he was a beast around 122. That is the only version of him I see Gomez beating, I don't agree with what you said of Gomez's speed or movement, they are were ok, but he wasn't overly fast. I see the evolved version of Manny(after Morales 2) picking Gomez apart because he would be too quick and his in and out movement too good, but before that I see Gomez winning more often than not, Manny just didn't have enough dimensions to his game, and he was too easy to hit when facing a guy who can punch like W. Gomez.
    Gomez had amazing foot work, great lateral movements. Something I liked is that when he had his opponent hurt he still was attacking from angles to destroy it. Not the type of hand speed like a Floyd, but great lateral movements, not to mention his deadly body attack. This is the type of fight that could be remembered for ever due to the type of boxers they are (Gomez was). I certainly feel lot of respect for both of them.
    Gomez had alright movement, but you can't compare his footwork to the greats he didn't move like Leonard, Ali, Hopkins, Roy Jones, Mayweather, etc., nor did he have the great in and out movement of prime Tyson, Calzaghe, Hagler, Duran, JMM, and yes Manny pacquiao.

    Also people aren't giving the 122 pound Pacquiao enough credit, he was pretty one-dimensional, but he moved up and kicked Barrera's ass with that style, and gave Morales and JMM both all they could handle in their fights. His determination, speed, and heavyhands was enough to take on anyone. I mean all three of these mexicans are all heavy handed and were naturally bigger than Manny at that point in his career, and he still withstood their power fine, while Gomez was stopped by similar levels of competition. I rank Barrera, JMM, and Morales right up there with Sanchez and JCC, and above Azumah Nelson for sure.

    To say the 122-126 pound version of manny would be out of his league, is just an example of the continual disrespect he gets on here because there are other retards who think he is a god. I think Gomez beats him more often than not, before Manny learns how to really fight, but it would be a really close fight everytime, and if either of them were to dominate a fight it would be Manny.
    Well said Taeth.

    This is the reason why I hate comparing boxers from different eras. You'll argue to the death and no one actually wins the debate.

    If there's one good thing that comes out from this debate, it's the fact that you can distinguish people here who have solid knowledge in boxing and those who has nothing to say ( including but not limited to VD-type of posters who will immediately burst out nonsensical one-liners).

    ICB made some points but then again scrutinizing his arguments would only aggravate the situation as his arguments are based on fights which he had mostly seen probably from youtube clips. No offense meant ICB but when you immediately discounted Pac's chances of winning against Gomez, it means that you haven't actually seen Pac's fights at the lower weights.

    Again, I shall rest my case by not engaging in this futile what-if scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Puerto Rican Punch View Post

    Gomez had amazing foot work, great lateral movements. Something I liked is that when he had his opponent hurt he still was attacking from angles to destroy it. Not the type of hand speed like a Floyd, but great lateral movements, not to mention his deadly body attack. This is the type of fight that could be remembered for ever due to the type of boxers they are (Gomez was). I certainly feel lot of respect for both of them.
    Gomez had alright movement, but you can't compare his footwork to the greats he didn't move like Leonard, Ali, Hopkins, Roy Jones, Mayweather, etc., nor did he have the great in and out movement of prime Tyson, Calzaghe, Hagler, Duran, JMM, and yes Manny pacquiao.

    Also people aren't giving the 122 pound Pacquiao enough credit, he was pretty one-dimensional, but he moved up and kicked Barrera's ass with that style, and gave Morales and JMM both all they could handle in their fights. His determination, speed, and heavyhands was enough to take on anyone. I mean all three of these mexicans are all heavy handed and were naturally bigger than Manny at that point in his career, and he still withstood their power fine, while Gomez was stopped by similar levels of competition. I rank Barrera, JMM, and Morales right up there with Sanchez and JCC, and above Azumah Nelson for sure.

    To say the 122-126 pound version of manny would be out of his league, is just an example of the continual disrespect he gets on here because there are other retards who think he is a god. I think Gomez beats him more often than not, before Manny learns how to really fight, but it would be a really close fight everytime, and if either of them were to dominate a fight it would be Manny.
    Well said Taeth.

    This is the reason why I hate comparing boxers from different eras. You'll argue to the death and no one actually wins the debate.

    If there's one good thing that comes out from this debate, it's the fact that you can distinguish people here who have solid knowledge in boxing and those who has nothing to say ( including but not limited to VD-type of posters who will immediately burst out nonsensical one-liners).

    ICB made some points but then again scrutinizing his arguments would only aggravate the situation as his arguments are based on fights which he had mostly seen probably from youtube clips. No offense meant ICB but when you immediately discounted Pac's chances of winning against Gomez, it means that you haven't actually seen Pac's fights at the lower weights.

    Again, I shall rest my case by not engaging in this futile what-if scenario.
    Bruce are you seriously questioning my boxing knowledge ? when i have proven in the past i have more knowledge. Than you on boxing, i've seen countless Manny Pacquiao fights. And i've seen all of his Super Bantamweight fights, and his Featherweight fights. All the way up to his last 11 fights.

    Its you who doesn't know much about Wilfredo Gomez, i have seen pretty much all of Wilfredo Gomez's fights at Super Bantamweight. Aswell as his fights at the higher weightclasses, i doubt you have seen many of his fights.

    All i was saying is that Manny Pacquiao, was still one dimensional at the lower weightclasses. Which he was you can't honestly tell me, that Manny Pacquiao was the fighter he was at the higher weightclasses, the Manny Pacquiao of today would of destroyed the younger Manny Pacquiao P4P.

    And im sorry but i don't think a one dimensional, Manny Pacquiao at Super Bantamweight, Featherweight. Would be able to handle Wilfredo Gomez's power.

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