After watching Roy Jones taunt Lacy,he got what he deserved against Calzaghe!

[CGM]

Calzaghe got a bit of flak for the way he show boated against Roy Jones but after watching Jones taunt and make fun of a beaten fighter in Lacy I wish Calzaghe had done a bit more showboating.


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I'm with you bud. I don't like showboaters period, but in the case of the crap that Jones took from Calzaghe, its live by the sword, die by the sword.

I think what we're gonna see from here on out is a lowering of Jones' standards. The calibre of the fighter that Jones has the kahones to showboat against will steadily decline.

edit. Actually, it's hotdogs I hate, Roy is probably the biggest of that bunch. Also Calzaghe's was particularly lame. Showboaters are something a little different, Ali for example, never bothered me that much.

[Spicoli]

What goes around comes around.Was akin to seeing Hendrix bragging about tearing up a riff on Guitar Hero

[JazMerkin]

I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.

[Spicoli]

I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.

Bingo.Both were way over the top.Especially when you see a guy talking to the crowd,commentators.Hate that with a passion.

[Fenster]

I don't see anything wrong with showboating (well maybe it's "wrong" if a clear mismatch beforehand). Maybe it is humiliating to the other fighter but should it bother him then it's clearly a good tactic to use.

I clapped and let out some "whao!" watching Roy's exhibition against Lacy.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. So Roy had NOTHING to complain about getting a taste of his own medicine against Calzaghe (and he didn't complain).

[YIDDLE]

showboating is ok but jones looked a bit silly jumping up and down.
lacy never had a chance at any stage perhaps he should of claimed a shoulder or back injury a few weeks ago ,he would of saved himself from a beating

[CGM]

I don't see anything wrong with showboating (well maybe it's "wrong" if a clear mismatch beforehand). Maybe it is humiliating to the other fighter but should it bother him then it's clearly a good tactic to use.

I clapped and let out some "whao!" watching Roy's exhibition against Lacy.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. So Roy had NOTHING to complain about getting a taste of his own medicine against Calzaghe (and he didn't complain).

That's a good point. It's a valid tactic, I don't think hotdogging is wrong per se, I just don't like it. But the thing is with Roy, he never needed it. He was always perfectly capable of thrashing his overmatched opposition without it. As far back as you want to go. So it truly was just hot-dogging. And yeah, Roy never complained about Calzaghe, but his fans sure did.


A good counterpoint is Leonard-Duran II. I'd say a little hotdogging probably worked wonders for Leonard.

[Fenster]

I don't see anything wrong with showboating (well maybe it's "wrong" if a clear mismatch beforehand). Maybe it is humiliating to the other fighter but should it bother him then it's clearly a good tactic to use.

I clapped and let out some "whao!" watching Roy's exhibition against Lacy.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. So Roy had NOTHING to complain about getting a taste of his own medicine against Calzaghe (and he didn't complain).

That's a good point. It's a valid tactic, I don't think hotdogging is wrong per se, I just don't like it. But the thing is with Roy, he never needed it. He was always perfectly capable of thrashing his overmatched opposition without it. As far back as you want to go. So it truly was just hot-dogging. And yeah, Roy never complained about Calzaghe, but his fans sure did.


A good counterpoint is Leonard-Duran II. I'd say a little hotdogging probably worked wonders for Leonard.

It's part of the show though. The majority of the crowd love that stuff. You always hear the cheers go up which has the bonus of influencing the judges.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.

Bingo.Both were way over the top.Especially when you see a guy talking to the crowd,commentators.Hate that with a passion.

Apparently Lampley cant get enough of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaXwwpKIoi4

[JazMerkin]

I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.

Bingo.Both were way over the top.Especially when you see a guy talking to the crowd,commentators.Hate that with a passion.

I actually thought it was great when Jones in his prime & Mayweather were doing that, absolutely loved it, or when Roy would turn his back on opponents. However, they were doing it not because their opponent was weak (Jesus Chavez gave Mayweather the 2nd toughest fight of his career IMO) but because they were that good. They didn't do it because they were facing a shell, which I felt was what Calzaghe & Jones did. I didn't mind Calzaghe doing it against Lacy, because it was demonstrating just how good he was. Same with Hopkins/Pavlik, Leonard vs Duran/Hagler. But Jones & Calzaghe were doing it because they could get away with it, neither now would have risked that against an elite LHW.

[BoomBoom]

Lamley is kind of a @ss for yelling "eagles or falcons Floyd" during the round. No respect for Bruseles who was fighting his best. As for showboating, I have no problem with it, but dont be surprised if its a close round and the judges give it to the other guy in a tight fight. Judah-Baldomir or Jones-Tarver two are examples of when the other guy isnt bother by the showboating, and in turn the showboater is the one who get broken. Campbell-Peden is another case of boxing getting the better of ego. Still, I like entertainment in the ring, Ive done my share of showboating as im sure most boxer have. Its just part of the entertainment aspect of the sport.

[Rocky Balboa]

I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.

Bingo.Both were way over the top.Especially when you see a guy talking to the crowd,commentators.Hate that with a passion.

I actually thought it was great when Jones in his prime & Mayweather were doing that, absolutely loved it, or when Roy would turn his back on opponents. However, they were doing it not because their opponent was weak (Jesus Chavez gave Mayweather the 2nd toughest fight of his career IMO) but because they were that good. They didn't do it because they were facing a shell, which I felt was what Calzaghe & Jones did. I didn't mind Calzaghe doing it against Lacy, because it was demonstrating just how good he was. Same with Hopkins/Pavlik, Leonard vs Duran/Hagler. But Jones & Calzaghe were doing it because they could get away with it, neither now would have risked that against an elite LHW.

x2, I'd rep you but I can't.

[Mar]

...i actually don't have a problem with it, all part of the game. Would i do it ? Probably not, but no one picked lacy off the street and told him to fight. You have the possibility of winning or being made a fool of you never know. The best way to keep a guy from showboating, or heck even from doing touchdown dances in football for that matter is to not let them score in the first place. Lacy had no problem sucking up the glory from winning and put himself in the situation in the first place. He took a chance taking a fight when he really should have had his ass at home withthe rest of us. He shouldn't be taking any more fights really. Because you put up such little resistance that a guy can build a toolshed and beat you at the same time is no fault of jones..to taunt is his style he continues to do it and his fans keep cheering so ..... look they both got paid, don't feel to sorry for either. As a side note i don't really like jones so a lot of things he does bugs me but hey, the goal is to win the fight not to end up with a bunch of friends at the end of your career. And that he did so congrats either way.

[Kev]

I didn't like seeing Calzaghe do it against Jones, or Jones against Lacy, as in each case it was a fighter doing it to a guy who had nothing left (or in Calzaghe's case, a guy who was a shadow of his former self). I'd like to see Jones try that against Dawson, Hopkins, Johnson or even Tavoris Cloud. Both of them doing it was embarassing, because it was not a case of showboating to show their talent, more to show the opponent's weakness. This was not showboating for the sake of showing their skill, it was doing it because they knew their opponent was beaten.

I think its very easy for us in our armchairs to decide a fighter is past it or shot but its another thing entirely to have to be the boxer who faces them in the ring.

I'm sure facing the great Roy Jones was a massive massive mental challenge to Joe Calzaghe, and he took the fight and Roy's threat very seriously indeed. The same with Jones against Lacy. Jones was coming off a series of losses, including his most recent to Calzaghe and he knew he had to win against Lacy.

It's easy for us to see Lacy as shot and posing no threat but we arn't going to be getting into the ring with him. I'm sure Jones was fired up for that fight, knowing he had to win and look good, and I'm sure he took the fight very seriously indeed, certainly not regarding it as a walk in the park.

In both cases the showboating was done imo when they realised they had got on top and were winning the fights, and it was the satisfaction and warrior mentality in them both that led to that showboating. They wern't taunting their opponents for being shot, rather they recognised the challenge they posed far more than we did, and were showboating because they were happy and cocky in the moment realising they had overcome them.

I'm 100% sure that both Joe and Roy give far more actual respect to the threat's posed by Jones and Lacy respectively than we the fans do who can just write an opponent off with a 'he' shot its a gimme fight'.

Neither Roy or Joe will regard their opponents as just shells of their former selves and will have taken the fight risks very seriously indeed.

In a way it's us the fans who are cocky and write fighters off as shot and finished..........

[Hunter]

It was one thing for Roy to taunt his opponents when he was P4P king, but for him to do it now, at a point where he is a shell of himself against second tier opposition is laughable......

I would agree, that Roy got a taste of his own medicine in the Joe fight. I am not a huge fan of taunting to begin with, but when you are not top p4p it is especially annoying.....