What a ridiculous thing to come out and say whether it's true or whether he's playing mind games. What an idiot.
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What a ridiculous thing to come out and say whether it's true or whether he's playing mind games. What an idiot.
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I don't believe this article for second.
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
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Odd thing to say. Sucks either way for me because I won't be able to this fight!!!
I thnk there are 2 possibilities to Beristain's crazy comments either
A) They're trying to give Floyd yet another distraction to deal with (Police searching his home, Roger's case, Floyd Sr possibly coming in as trainer)
B) They're admitting defeat and thereby decreasing the value of a Floyd victory and setting up Juan's move back to a lower weight class
C) Most likely someone made this up
Look at these pics of Marquez he looks huge :: Golden Boy Promotions Inc. ::
Slip of the tongue? Complete fabrication? I don't see the purpose otherwise - Floyd will train just as hard either way.
Maybe he's just trying to psyche up JMM...what's a pro like Juan going to do when he hears his trainer slag him off like that? He's going to step his game up!
For whatever reason Nacho said that he said it in hopes of getting something done.
I think Floyd gets beaten by JMM...he had a tough go with Jose Luis Castillo years ago and since then he hasn't fought any Mexican fighters who have their own little set of boxing tendencies. Also I doubt Floyd has ever had to lose weight like he's going to have to for this fight...it's 6-7 pounds more but that can be a big difference especially as age catches up with you.
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Floyd is a smarter and better boxer than he was when that fight happened and he also had a messed up shoulder in that fight and won the rematch clearly.
I doubt losing weight will make a difference hes always in shape and is 32 while JMM is 36 and moving up to a weight class hes never fought in.
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It's possible that he has slowed down due to his weight lifting and increase in weight. However, if mayweather engages him, he will have to rely on his counterpunching style and power. Speed will be of little factor if Mayweather goes all out. If JMM can TKO casa, he also has the chance to seriously hurt Mayweather.
Knowing Mayweather however, Marquez will really have a problem if he doesn't have the speed to catch the pretty boy.
And we will have a "boring" fight again.Hope Mayweather gives us a good fight by fighting all the way. PBF should brawl Marquez if he wants to impress the ordinary and casual boxing fans.
Personally, I don't want any technical lessons in this fight.![]()
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Marquez is an incredibly intelligent fighter...and Nacho, despite his tendency to make idiotic decisions on the business side, is a very intelligent trainer. They both know that power alone will not be enough to beat Mayweather. Nacho also got a first hand look at what incorrect preparation costs a fighter: Oscar's bizarre weight issue in the Pac fight. So i am not buying this whole "Marquez doesn't have speed" story. That being said...i still can't see Marquez winning. I think this has the POTENTIAL to be a very good fight...Marquez is as skilled a fighter as there is and Floyd has been inactive. But Floyd has as much, if not more, skill than Marquez...and is Floyd is just too fast and slick. Marquez, despite his recent tendency to be more offensive, is a natural counter puncher. Sure, he had great success against a very fast fighter in Pac. But Pac suited his style very well. Pac loves to jump forward...which lends itself very well for an accurate counter puncher like Marquez. But Floyd is also a counter puncher...maybe the best in the sport. He isn't going to jump in and exchange. He will dance and be slick all night. I see Floyd winning on points.
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Why the hell JMM needs weight liftingPac already made an example on how to be successful at higher weights. Pac does it by just train your ass. No weight lifting, Just train hard & eat good stuff.
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Weird...
One thing: weightlifting doesn't make you slow if you do it properly. The question is: is JMM doing it properly?
Maybe lifting rocks has turned out to be a bad choice![]()
Finally, someone speaking sense. Explosive weight training, if done right, would not decrease the speed of a fighter. In fact, it could make him faster. That old myth that resistance training stiffens the body and loses flexibility is so out-dated it's unbelievable. Bigger muscles are as flexible as smaller ones and if he combines heavy lifting (incorporating fast twitch muscle fibres), with plyometrics, he could actually improve his hand and foot speed as well as his conditioning.
If you want to talk about speed, look at olympic sprinters - built for speed (okay, not hand speed).
Not exactly a stranger to the weights room, is he?
So, either Beristain is so old school he doesn't have a clue, or it's all mind games.
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Pacdbest,
I hope you refrain from constantly mentioning Pac in threads where he is not supposed to be mentioned. You're making all the people here hate pacfans. Please stop with the senseless nuthugging.
You may not know it, there are many pac nuthuggers here and you don't need to tell us how great pac is. We already know that.![]()
Ikariam
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Ha ha this is staged worse than the stupid floyd wrestling crap he does. I actually feel a bit for marquez, i think he is an awesome fighter in a fight that really isn't all that fair....look nacho you're trying mind tricks on a guy who is one big mind trip. I think marquez is being asked to do to much, nacho isn't telling us nothing we dont' already know. Your guy is smaller, slower, go down the list, i doubt there is more than maybe one area where marquez beats him on paper. We're being all hyped up and fightnight we'll all come back down as usual. Floyd is not fighting someone especially after a layoff that he isn't 120% positive he can beat. Floyd's real job is trying to get that cash out of our wallets convincing us marquez can win. A guy who can't beat chris john isn't beating mayweather. Would be nice though. But so would the lottery, i think the chances of either are about the same
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