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    Default Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Marquez doesn't have the speed, says Nacho�Beristain - Bad Left Hook
    by SC on Aug 24, 2009 10:39 PM EDT

    Juan Manuel Marquez's own trainer, Nacho Beristain, is expressing great concern over his fighter's lack of speed heading into the final stages of training for his September 19 fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    From PhilBoxing.com, as reported by Hesiquio Balderas:

    "Juan Manuel is very strong, he looks like a natural welterweight, but it worries me a lot that we can't get to the speed level that we are looking for, and we can't compete with a fighter of the quality of Floyd Mayweather with that f***ing lack of speed. The sparring partners are not a problem, it is the work we did to increase the muscle. He is tense and as I said he is very strong and buffed, but he has no speed at this point and that is because the weight lifting he did was excessive. It's like a soccer player after working with weights, they are strong but they lack the speed and the rhythm to compete. That is the way Juan Manuel is right now I am desperate at this point. But there is still time to get him speed, the problem is that the weight lifting is giving us a hard time."

    Beristain's worry is bad news to those hoping for the Marquez upset (which is a lot of people), but it could also simply be a ploy. It adds up that Marquez would lose speed, and speed against Mayweather was going to be a problem for him even without bulking up the way he did. But they might be trying to make Floyd Jr. think this is going to be easier than they (the Marquez camp) really believe it will be. Maybe they intend to catch Floyd rusty or even napping.

    But if it's legit, yes, it's a real problem. There's not much time left (about three weeks to be exact) and without being able to find Mayweather, the fight plays out with Floyd battering Marquez and probably putting him away early, which is the way a lot of people are seeing the fight in the first place.


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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    I reckon they're trying to lull Floyd into being underprepared, no way would he come out with this before the fight like this. Beristain is too experienced to do that, he didn't come out talking about ODLH's weight difficulties did he??

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    If its true, its very bad news. But, who knows if it it a tactic or not. Beristain is a pretty serious guy though, so this is concerning. Why would his stregnth coach bulk him up in that way is my question.
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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I reckon they're trying to lull Floyd into being underprepared, no way would he come out with this before the fight like this. Beristain is too experienced to do that, he didn't come out talking about ODLH's weight difficulties did he??
    That's what i though.

    Then i wondered how a comment like that could affect sales/ interest/ upset networks etc and so i figured would he make such a potentially irresponisble and damaging claim for the sake of a bit of comlaintencey?
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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I reckon they're trying to lull Floyd into being underprepared, no way would he come out with this before the fight like this. Beristain is too experienced to do that, he didn't come out talking about ODLH's weight difficulties did he??
    Oscar did have weight issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Why would his stregnth coach bulk him up in that way is my question.
    Exactly. I was reminded of Shane Mosley's comments on using weights and how it affected his performances. I really hope this isn't true...?
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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    I'm not convinced that they would go public with something like this and it be real, but, i'm sure Mayweathers camp are far from gonna fall for a blag like that....

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I reckon they're trying to lull Floyd into being underprepared, no way would he come out with this before the fight like this. Beristain is too experienced to do that, he didn't come out talking about ODLH's weight difficulties did he??
    Oscar did have weight issues.
    I know he did, that's what I was saying, he didn't mention it even though he knew there were problems. I just think he's got too much experience to come out mentioning that without a purpose.

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    I reckon they're trying to lull Floyd into being underprepared, no way would he come out with this before the fight like this. Beristain is too experienced to do that, he didn't come out talking about ODLH's weight difficulties did he??
    Oscar did have weight issues.
    I know he did, that's what I was saying, he didn't mention it even though he knew there were problems. I just think he's got too much experience to come out mentioning that without a purpose.
    Yeah, I would hope so. But Nacho just doesnt come across as the type of guy to go out of his way to play mind games either. I do think that Marquez will be a lot slower because of the weight, no matter how he put it on. I dint think his frame will carry 147 that well. Im hoping he comes in around 143.
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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    140.5 would be ideal
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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Its gotta be a ruse to fuck with Floyd's head. Why on earth would someone as experienced as Nacho say that?

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Since when was Beristain a smart guy? He has a history of making bad decisions for Marquez (out of the ring).

    Wouldn't surprise me if he was telling the truth
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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Since when was Beristain a smart guy? He has a history of making bad decisions for Marquez (out of the ring).

    Wouldn't surprise me if he was telling the truth
    Oddly enough, I agree.

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Since when was Beristain a smart guy? He has a history of making bad decisions for Marquez (out of the ring).

    Wouldn't surprise me if he was telling the truth
    Oddly enough, I agree.
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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    What a ridiculous thing to come out and say whether it's true or whether he's playing mind games. What an idiot.

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