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he's talented for sure. He's abnormally strong and packs a huge punch. i'm not sure that you get my question.

He's hard to hit because he's 6'6. His idea of defense is stepping backwards in a straight line or leaning back. He also flails his arms or has them fully extended when backing. That kind of stuff gets you KO'd but how does he get away with it? B/c the rest of the division is full of immobile plodders and fighters who just lack the basics. RJJ got caught leaning back against Tarver in the second fight. Any technically sound fighter will take advantage of that. Unfortunately, the HW's right now are either too awful or too limited by their physique to do that.

As for his countering ability? I don't see how you can say that it's "insane". He rarely counters and when he does it's very simple counterpunching. "Insane" counterpunching is Donaire getting his lead foot inside Vic's right and thus getting himself into the hooking position to throw that lefthook. Wlad's offensive arsenal is limited and basic. He can't throw a combination that goes beyond the 1-2 (and it would be hard to as he has a very wide stance) and he doesn't even know to rotate his shoulder when throwing a lefthook.


BTW, I think Wladimir would KO a Floyd Patterson, but P4P there's no doubt that Patterson is the better boxer.

Isn't that how you are suppose to counter easily and fluently with really no effort? IF also you watch Wlad's fight's he really doesn't have much to counter because no one throws at him and when they do he does counter them easily. To say Wlad's aresnal is limited is a bit of a stretch you want to watch a power punching clinic watch the Ray Mercer fight. He hit Mercer with I think every type of punch possible. Nitpicking his abilities too is a bit funny I mean come on "Doesn't Rotate his shoulder when throwing the left hook"? Uhmm again I point to watching the Merecer fight and look at his KO percentage again.
wow. this really is redundant. if you think wlad is a good counterpuncher, i'm not sure then what you'd think of guys like chop chop corley who's a dedicated counterpuncher (though only a decent one at that) or holyfield who's one of the best HW counterpunchers ever. read my post again for what my reply to this would be. i agree wlad looked his best against mercer. that was a pretty good punching display.

Wasn't it you who used the ridiculous statement Wlad doesn't turn his shoulder properly for a left hook. I would just ask the 47 KO's out of 53 of Wlad 's wins how proper was Wlad's left hook.

I notice alot in just about all of your statement's thus far that you name name's like Chop Chop Corley and Nonito Donaire. I will remind you that this is the heavyweight division. Heavyweight's and say middleweight's are 2 totally different division's hell even cruiserweight's are different. You are not going to find a perfect techinically sound fighter in the heavies without flaws. It's just that simple. Heavyweight's get by with power and good boxing ability not perfect boxing ability like you will find in some lower weight classes.