First off Ireland soccer just plain sucks...I am allowed to say that and I'm American so that's how far down the totem pole those guys have fallen off.

FOR Liverpool
2008 Robbie Keane 19 games 5 goals
2007 Andriy Voronin 20 games 5 goals

That's even steven buddy...and for those people who complained about Keane not getting PT well since when has Voronin gotten regular PT at Liverpool? We have him, he's decent we might as well use him. Right now we have to play with what we have and for some people it might suck a whole hell of a lot but for now give AV a shot see how he does and if he's not able to carry his weight then ship him off to Germany (where he did very well BTW 20 games 11 goals, I know the class isn't the same but still) and let Pacheco get tested a bit. He's a young kid and needs seasoning if we've got a lost season then let Pacheco get some reps and see if he's quality yet.

I can tell you one thing Dirk Kuyt and Ryan Babel aren't the answer at the other striker and neither is Gerrard, why the hell we would put our best box to box player waaaaay up front is beyond me.

Our issues don't stem from Striker, they are from midfield where NOBODY controls the ball, and nobody makes their passes. A midfield of Benayoun, Gerrard, Mascherano, and Riera is the best hope we have to win and to do that then we need someone else to play upfront with Torres other than Gerrard.

Not that I am saying he's the problem or anything but who does Torres really play well with, to be honest the only answer I come up with is Peter Crouch. Keane didn't match with him, Kuyt did ok I guess, hell even David Villa doesn't mesh with Torres' game...when they played together for Spain Torres never scored and when Villa got subbed off for Torres scored his only goal without Villa on the pitch. I think Torres is just tricky to plan an attack around.