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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Maybe he's just trying to psyche up JMM...what's a pro like Juan going to do when he hears his trainer slag him off like that? He's going to step his game up!

    For whatever reason Nacho said that he said it in hopes of getting something done.

    I think Floyd gets beaten by JMM...he had a tough go with Jose Luis Castillo years ago and since then he hasn't fought any Mexican fighters who have their own little set of boxing tendencies. Also I doubt Floyd has ever had to lose weight like he's going to have to for this fight...it's 6-7 pounds more but that can be a big difference especially as age catches up with you.

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Maybe he's just trying to psyche up JMM...what's a pro like Juan going to do when he hears his trainer slag him off like that? He's going to step his game up!

    For whatever reason Nacho said that he said it in hopes of getting something done.

    I think Floyd gets beaten by JMM...he had a tough go with Jose Luis Castillo years ago and since then he hasn't fought any Mexican fighters who have their own little set of boxing tendencies. Also I doubt Floyd has ever had to lose weight like he's going to have to for this fight...it's 6-7 pounds more but that can be a big difference especially as age catches up with you.
    Floyd is a smarter and better boxer than he was when that fight happened and he also had a messed up shoulder in that fight and won the rematch clearly.

    I doubt losing weight will make a difference hes always in shape and is 32 while JMM is 36 and moving up to a weight class hes never fought in.

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    It's possible that he has slowed down due to his weight lifting and increase in weight. However, if mayweather engages him, he will have to rely on his counterpunching style and power. Speed will be of little factor if Mayweather goes all out. If JMM can TKO casa, he also has the chance to seriously hurt Mayweather.

    Knowing Mayweather however, Marquez will really have a problem if he doesn't have the speed to catch the pretty boy.

    And we will have a "boring" fight again. Hope Mayweather gives us a good fight by fighting all the way. PBF should brawl Marquez if he wants to impress the ordinary and casual boxing fans.

    Personally, I don't want any technical lessons in this fight.

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Marquez is an incredibly intelligent fighter...and Nacho, despite his tendency to make idiotic decisions on the business side, is a very intelligent trainer. They both know that power alone will not be enough to beat Mayweather. Nacho also got a first hand look at what incorrect preparation costs a fighter: Oscar's bizarre weight issue in the Pac fight. So i am not buying this whole "Marquez doesn't have speed" story. That being said...i still can't see Marquez winning. I think this has the POTENTIAL to be a very good fight...Marquez is as skilled a fighter as there is and Floyd has been inactive. But Floyd has as much, if not more, skill than Marquez...and is Floyd is just too fast and slick. Marquez, despite his recent tendency to be more offensive, is a natural counter puncher. Sure, he had great success against a very fast fighter in Pac. But Pac suited his style very well. Pac loves to jump forward...which lends itself very well for an accurate counter puncher like Marquez. But Floyd is also a counter puncher...maybe the best in the sport. He isn't going to jump in and exchange. He will dance and be slick all night. I see Floyd winning on points.

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Why the hell JMM needs weight lifting Pac already made an example on how to be successful at higher weights. Pac does it by just train your ass. No weight lifting, Just train hard & eat good stuff.

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Weird...

    One thing: weightlifting doesn't make you slow if you do it properly. The question is: is JMM doing it properly?

    Maybe lifting rocks has turned out to be a bad choice

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa View Post
    Weird...

    One thing: weightlifting doesn't make you slow if you do it properly. The question is: is JMM doing it properly?

    Maybe lifting rocks has turned out to be a bad choice
    Finally, someone speaking sense. Explosive weight training, if done right, would not decrease the speed of a fighter. In fact, it could make him faster. That old myth that resistance training stiffens the body and loses flexibility is so out-dated it's unbelievable. Bigger muscles are as flexible as smaller ones and if he combines heavy lifting (incorporating fast twitch muscle fibres), with plyometrics, he could actually improve his hand and foot speed as well as his conditioning.

    If you want to talk about speed, look at olympic sprinters - built for speed (okay, not hand speed).



    Not exactly a stranger to the weights room, is he?

    So, either Beristain is so old school he doesn't have a clue, or it's all mind games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
    Why the hell JMM needs weight lifting Pac already made an example on how to be successful at higher weights. Pac does it by just train your ass. No weight lifting, Just train hard & eat good stuff.
    What an idiotic comment from an obvious nuthugger. Pac and JMM have no resemblance in body type. Pac has the frame to carry more weight from his larger/ more muscular lower body.

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    Default Re: Nacho Beristain: Marquez doesn't have the speed!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacdbest2 View Post
    Why the hell JMM needs weight lifting Pac already made an example on how to be successful at higher weights. Pac does it by just train your ass. No weight lifting, Just train hard & eat good stuff.
    Pacdbest,

    I hope you refrain from constantly mentioning Pac in threads where he is not supposed to be mentioned. You're making all the people here hate pacfans. Please stop with the senseless nuthugging.

    You may not know it, there are many pac nuthuggers here and you don't need to tell us how great pac is. We already know that.

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