Ok Bilbo here it is, Plain as I can explain it. Tough Gong

[Youngblood]

And I guess, Bilbo, when you see me mock your conspiracy laden posts and ideas, your preoccupation with creationism etc, it isn't simply because I think they are wack (even though I do lol), it is moreso because I see your ideas firmly rooted here on Earth. Where we as a species play some sort of central role in the universe, and that we are so important to it, that we have a ruler named God that saw fit to make us in his eyes, created us in his image, and then this world solely for us, and that the rest of this vast and wonderful universe is somehow just background scenery.

I don't believe your eyes are open enough. But then again, I suppose you'll say the same about me when you suggest Obama and other world leaders are all plotting against us in a grand scheme of some form or another. To tell you the truth, it could even be so, but ultimately, it doesn't even matter much. We are but the tiniest grain of sand on the most enormous of oceans, otherwise known as our universe.

[Kev]

And I guess, Bilbo, when you see me mock your conspiracy laden posts and ideas, your preoccupation with creationism etc, it isn't simply because I think they are wack (even though I do lol), it is moreso because I see your ideas firmly rooted here on Earth. Where we as a species play some sort of central role in the universe, and that we are so important to it, that we have a ruler named God that saw fit to make us in his eyes, created us in his image, and then this world solely for us, and that the rest of this vast and wonderful universe is somehow just background scenery.

I don't believe your eyes are open enough. But then again, I suppose you'll say the same about me when you suggest Obama and other world leaders are all plotting against us in a grand scheme of some form or another. To tell you the truth, it could even be so, but ultimately, it doesn't even matter much. We are but the tiniest grain of sand on the most enormous of oceans, otherwise known as our universe.

Actually not so, I believe it is the plotting of man against the one true God, exactly as laid down to us in the Book of Revelation and warnings of Jesus and the Prophets.

It is utlimately about man's rebellion against God, mankind, at least those in charge of mankind, want to create a world, a religion and belief system with them at the top, man becomes God.

The big picture is very big indeed but I can only post so many things at one time.

But youngblood as for saying my ideas are wack, have you even looked at them? Or did you just dismiss them with a shrug of the shoulders?

If I state as a fact that Barak's chief science advisor is a Nazi eugenist who would like to introduce forced steralisation and abortion programmes, to create an international police force, and to decide who can and who cannot have children do you disregard me because you have searched the evidence and know what I am saying is untrue or do you just not even examine the evidence and just assume I'm talking shit?

Everything I say can be backed up with evidence. You just clearly won't even look at it.