If Mayweather stops Marquez

[generalbulldog]

Most boxing fans don't give a shit if Mayweather or Pac gets the larger purse, We just want to see the fight be made and hopefully it will be a good one.

[Tysonbruno]

I think it will be Mayweather vs Cotto in 2010 i don't think Pac can beat Cotto the weight thing with Cotto concerns me but if he comes down right i think he will be to big and strong for pac i think he has bitten off to much this time.

[knodaledge]

I'll give him credit for a KO but it's what I'm expecting anyway.

If PBF KO's Marquez he deserves to earn the larger % of purse vs Pac.

Pacman fills the arenas, Floyd doesn't. So, yeah, I disagree there

How do we judge this though? Based on the numbers of their upcoming fights? It takes 2 to tangle & 2 to sell tickets. Pacquiao and Cotto are going to outdraw Mayweather & Marquez simply because Marquez isn't as big a name as the other guys.

The only fair way to measure who draws more is put them both against the same opponents and see which fights sell. Luckily we have 2 fights to give us the numbers but it seems alot of people choose to look away from those facts in black & white. We can measure how well Mayweather/Marquez sells in contrast to how Pacquiao/Marquez sold, right?

If we both have Ferraris to race but mine has stone wheels, you'll win every time. 2 marquee names vs 1 marquee name & 1 underrated name...It's an unfair way to measure.

[Rantcatrat]

I think it will be Mayweather vs Cotto in 2010 i don't think Pac can beat Cotto the weight thing with Cotto concerns me but if he comes down right i think he will be to big and strong for pac i think he has bitten off to much this time.

I agree. Cotto may beat Pacquiao. The fight's at 145, right? If so, the weight doesn't concern me at all. The only thing that concerns me that is that Freddie Roach wanted this fight and it has been proven he knows what Pacquiao can and can't handle.

You really think PBF will fight Cotto?

[TheMacMagician]

I think it will be Mayweather vs Cotto in 2010 i don't think Pac can beat Cotto the weight thing with Cotto concerns me but if he comes down right i think he will be to big and strong for pac i think he has bitten off to much this time.

For me, logic says this is right.....

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[Kirkland Laing]

Mayweather outpoints Marquez.

Manny beats Cotto.

Floyd beats Manny.

[Nameless]

If PBF KO's Marquez he deserves to earn the larger % of purse vs Pac.

Pacman fills the arenas, Floyd doesn't. So, yeah, I disagree there

How do we judge this though? Based on the numbers of their upcoming fights? It takes 2 to tangle & 2 to sell tickets. Pacquiao and Cotto are going to outdraw Mayweather & Marquez simply because Marquez isn't as big a name as the other guys.

The only fair way to measure who draws more is put them both against the same opponents and see which fights sell. Luckily we have 2 fights to give us the numbers but it seems alot of people choose to look away from those facts in black & white. We can measure how well Mayweather/Marquez sells in contrast to how Pacquiao/Marquez sold, right?

If we both have Ferraris to race but mine has stone wheels, you'll win every time. 2 marquee names vs 1 marquee name & 1 underrated name...It's an unfair way to measure.

The only big venue Mayweather filled was when he fought against DLH and once again, it was mainly because of DLH. No matter where he goes, Pacman fills the arenas and drag a huge amount of money generated by the PPV, even when he's not fighting against the best of the best of the best. It takes 2 to dance tango but often, you come to see one of the two dancers. THe guy has talent but is not that charismatic neither has an attractive style for most of the fans plus it is more than common that the belt holder gets a bigger piece of the pie, especially when the champion is a superstar and not a cinderella man.

[JazMerkin]

Pacman fills the arenas, Floyd doesn't. So, yeah, I disagree there

How do we judge this though? Based on the numbers of their upcoming fights? It takes 2 to tangle & 2 to sell tickets. Pacquiao and Cotto are going to outdraw Mayweather & Marquez simply because Marquez isn't as big a name as the other guys.

The only fair way to measure who draws more is put them both against the same opponents and see which fights sell. Luckily we have 2 fights to give us the numbers but it seems alot of people choose to look away from those facts in black & white. We can measure how well Mayweather/Marquez sells in contrast to how Pacquiao/Marquez sold, right?

If we both have Ferraris to race but mine has stone wheels, you'll win every time. 2 marquee names vs 1 marquee name & 1 underrated name...It's an unfair way to measure.

The only big venue Mayweather filled was when he fought against DLH and once again, it was mainly because of DLH. No matter where he goes, Pacman fills the arenas and drag a huge amount of money generated by the PPV, even when he's not fighting against the best of the best of the best. It takes 2 to dance tango but often, you come to see one of the two dancers. THe guy has talent but is not that charismatic neither has an attractive style for most of the fans plus it is more than common that the belt holder gets a bigger piece of the pie, especially when the champion is a superstar and not a cinderella man.

False. He has sold out all of his shows in Michigan (his home state) against Carlos Rios, Emanuel Augustus, Carlos Hernandez & Philip Ndou. I believe that the Gatti, Judah & Hatton fights were also all sold out, not sure about Corrales though.

[ryanman]

If PBF KO's Marquez he deserves to earn the larger % of purse vs Pac.

Pacman fills the arenas, Floyd doesn't. So, yeah, I disagree there

How do we judge this though? Based on the numbers of their upcoming fights? It takes 2 to tangle & 2 to sell tickets. Pacquiao and Cotto are going to outdraw Mayweather & Marquez simply because Marquez isn't as big a name as the other guys.

The only fair way to measure who draws more is put them both against the same opponents and see which fights sell. Luckily we have 2 fights to give us the numbers but it seems alot of people choose to look away from those facts in black & white. We can measure how well Mayweather/Marquez sells in contrast to how Pacquiao/Marquez sold, right?

If we both have Ferraris to race but mine has stone wheels, you'll win every time. 2 marquee names vs 1 marquee name & 1 underrated name...It's an unfair way to measure.

Marquez is a marquee name. If he doesn't count as a marquee name then i guess there are only 2 'marquee' names in boxing.

Marquez marquee marquee Marquez! Both of them words now look like gibberish to me!

[Addicted to_boxing]

I thought this fight was easy to predict. Personally I think that Marquez would be Mayweather's most difficult fight.

The timing of Marquez is impeccable and his punching power is something not to be underestimated. If he was able to KO Casamayor and Diaz, I give him a 45% chance of hurting Mayweather.

If Marquez was able to withstood the onslaught of Pac, which proved too much for Hatton and DLH, then he could also withstand the punches of Mayweather.

IMO, I don't see Mayweather stopping Marquez. If he will be able to do it then he deserves a larger purse than Pac in case they meet.

Very well put brucelee

[Addicted to_boxing]

why? pac got the p4p when pbf retired, pac fought alot since then and pbf didnt do nothing.

if pbf Kos jmm he kod a guy with a one loss one draw record against pac. we can argue the same that pac also kod in a better fashion hatton.

pbf cant demand the larger purse cause he aint drawing crowds anymore.


going back to topic

i think jmm can handle pbf, i wish he can win. but its impossible for pbf to toy with jmm.

Easy, Pac is #1, JMM #2. Pac never Ko'd JMM. PBF remains undefeated ....


Look at the mindset and skill level that Pac hand picks floundering foes:
David Diaz was awarded the title when Joel Casamayor, the champion at the time, was stripped of the title for signing to fight WBO champion Acelino Freitas rather than defend against him.

David Diaz -
3 foes prior to Pac fight. Ramon Montano, EM (an old washed up fighter, yet many felt EM won the fight). Jose Armando Santa Cruz a guy now 3 & 3 in his last 6 fights.

ODLH - weight drained cross dressing promoter -
An old Joke : 3 foes prior to Pac fight. Mayorga (another joke with no skill set) Forbes (journeyman) and he barely won. Mayweather - could have won but clearly could no longer pull the trigger and just had to throw more jabs to win.

Hatton -
Malagnaggi ( does not even posses the strength to even blow out a candle). Lazcano - entered he Hatton fight having lost in previous fight to Vivian Harris. Mayweather - made Hatton look like an amatuer ( witness funniest KO I have ever seen)

Cotto -
Joshua Clottey ( tough foe, Cotto did just enough to win , not impressive)
Michael Jennings - Little known with no impressive opponents on record , 34% KO %.
Margarito - Loss his heart that night. It was obvious in the Clottey fight he will never be the same.

So see how Pac has cherry picked his way to fame. Granted he has performed in ring. But Pac fight the wounded with a marquee name. EM fight one and JMM are the only opponents they have underestimated / miscalculated.

You can do this to all of Pac's foes after facing JMM in their 1st fight. They either lost their previous fight or one of their last three fights prior to entering the fight vs Pac..

JMM's is no murderers row either but slightly more impressive than Pac's.


This is why PBF deserves the larger purse, if and only he manages to KO JMM.

Funny how no Pac fan has challenged the following facts ....

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No way in hell Floyd will stop Juan. At 144, I really think Marquez will have a tougher chin... and Floyd decreases his power.

This is a 70/30 fight but it aint gonna be a walk in the park for BOTH.

70% Mayweather by decision

30% Marquez by KO

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why? pac got the p4p when pbf retired, pac fought alot since then and pbf didnt do nothing.

if pbf Kos jmm he kod a guy with a one loss one draw record against pac. we can argue the same that pac also kod in a better fashion hatton.

pbf cant demand the larger purse cause he aint drawing crowds anymore.


going back to topic

i think jmm can handle pbf, i wish he can win. but its impossible for pbf to toy with jmm.

Easy, Pac is #1, JMM #2. Pac never Ko'd JMM. PBF remains undefeated ....


Look at the mindset and skill level that Pac hand picks floundering foes:
David Diaz was awarded the title when Joel Casamayor, the champion at the time, was stripped of the title for signing to fight WBO champion Acelino Freitas rather than defend against him.

David Diaz -
3 foes prior to Pac fight. Ramon Montano, EM (an old washed up fighter, yet many felt EM won the fight). Jose Armando Santa Cruz a guy now 3 & 3 in his last 6 fights.

ODLH - weight drained cross dressing promoter -
An old Joke : 3 foes prior to Pac fight. Mayorga (another joke with no skill set) Forbes (journeyman) and he barely won. Mayweather - could have won but clearly could no longer pull the trigger and just had to throw more jabs to win.

Hatton -
Malagnaggi ( does not even posses the strength to even blow out a candle). Lazcano - entered he Hatton fight having lost in previous fight to Vivian Harris. Mayweather - made Hatton look like an amatuer ( witness funniest KO I have ever seen)

Cotto -
Joshua Clottey ( tough foe, Cotto did just enough to win , not impressive)
Michael Jennings - Little known with no impressive opponents on record , 34% KO %.
Margarito - Loss his heart that night. It was obvious in the Clottey fight he will never be the same.

So see how Pac has cherry picked his way to fame. Granted he has performed in ring. But Pac fight the wounded with a marquee name. EM fight one and JMM are the only opponents they have underestimated / miscalculated.

You can do this to all of Pac's foes after facing JMM in their 1st fight. They either lost their previous fight or one of their last three fights prior to entering the fight vs Pac..

JMM's is no murderers row either but slightly more impressive than Pac's.


This is why PBF deserves the larger purse, if and only he manages to KO JMM.

Funny how no Pac fan has challenged the following facts ....

You're funny.