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    Default Re: I say ODLH beats Margarito or Cotto

    Quote Originally Posted by C.J.Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I've always felt ODLH would beat Cotto because he is bigger,faster, and far more durable with a similar level of skills. Cotto might have had a chance with that deadly body arsenal, but besides that Oscar has the better, longer jab, he didn't get to show how hard he lands that left hook against Forbes and Mayweather because their style specifically blocks that punch, however his left hooks that landed against Mayorga were harder then any punch I've seen Cotto ever land. I love Cotto, but this fight also would be all wrong for him because Oscar is a very similar fighter to him, but twice as big(not actually, but close).

    The Margarito fight would be closer, simply because Oscar wears down late in fights, but if he fought a similar fight as he employed against Mayorga I think he could go 12 strong rounds, and I don't see Margarito being able to wear Oscar down in 12 rounds. Oscar is very fast, and can land that left hook to devastating effect. If you watch Margarito against both Cotto and Cintron not to take anything away from his chin, but by putting his opponents on their back foot he really stops them from throwing their hardest punches because nobody throws as hard going backwards. However Oscar has that wonderful jab would be able to create a little distance because I saw when Cotto came forward behind his jab that Margarito was letting him a little bit, and while Cotto just backs up after throwing a combination I think Oscar would keep this fighting the middle of the ring because he has the strength, durability, and skillset to do that. Margarito was a sparing partner of Oscar's which a fighter usually only keeps if a fighter is good enough to push them, but not good enough to beat the shit out of them(except Ali).

    Anyways I could see Oscar being WW champion if he really wanted to persue with the intensity he persued Mayorga or Mayweather with.

    Oscar bragged that he wanted the winner of Cotto-Margarito as his final fight but when he saw Margarito kick Cottos ass so bad he took to the hills. He wanted no part of Margarito then now or ever
    Though we can't prove it, we still can, I think, legitimately think that perhaps Margarito had loaded gloves against Cotto, especially considering that he didn't hit him "that" often and that did left tremendous marks on his face. Would a plaster-less glove Margarito have beaten up Oscar? NOt sure, it is a very tricky question. Also, I wonder how Margarito did recover mentally from it all and if he'll ever be the same after the beating he got from Sugar Shane.
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    Default Re: I say ODLH beats Margarito or Cotto

    I don't think so. The Oscar of now is completely done. Oscar has avoided Margarito for some time now, so we know he's scared, as scared as he was of Trinidad in that fight. As for Cotto, they would have to fight at 147 and we saw what Oscar looked like physically at that weight. I pick Cotto and Margarito to win, especially at 147.

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    Default Re: I say ODLH beats Margarito or Cotto

    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    I don't think so. The Oscar of now is completely done. Oscar has avoided Margarito for some time now, so we know he's scared, as scared as he was of Trinidad in that fight. As for Cotto, they would have to fight at 147 and we saw what Oscar looked like physically at that weight. I pick Cotto and Margarito to win, especially at 147.
    yea that's funny, Oscar outboxed Trinidad and made him look a fool for 9 rounds straight, Trinidad and his dad ran from the idea of a rematch as if it were the swine flu, but yea Margarito and Cotto would beat the DLH of now, but DLH in his prime at 147 would have owned and completely schooled both of them

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    Default Re: I say ODLH beats Margarito or Cotto

    My opinion of Cotto has changed a bit since then, I am not sure anybody schools Cotto with Oscar's style, but I still think Oscar's better chin and power would carry the fight, but as a tactician Cotto is better than Trinidad, he handles movement better, IMO he has a bigger punch arsenal, and he goes to the body so well. Trinidad could have been gunning for a second ODLH fight, but Oscar did make him look completely foolish for 9 rounds, and I think even the current Oscar would do 10x better against Cotto than how he did against Pacquiao because its completely different having a guy there to be hit.

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    Default Re: I say ODLH beats Margarito or Cotto

    I think both Margarito and Cotto would beat ODLH.

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    Default Re: I say ODLH beats Margarito or Cotto

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    I don't think so. The Oscar of now is completely done. Oscar has avoided Margarito for some time now, so we know he's scared, as scared as he was of Trinidad in that fight. As for Cotto, they would have to fight at 147 and we saw what Oscar looked like physically at that weight. I pick Cotto and Margarito to win, especially at 147.
    yea that's funny, Oscar outboxed Trinidad and made him look a fool for 9 rounds straight, Trinidad and his dad ran from the idea of a rematch as if it were the swine flu, but yea Margarito and Cotto would beat the DLH of now, but DLH in his prime at 147 would have owned and completely schooled both of them
    Before Oscar fought Trinidad, who did Oscar "box"? No one that I can remember. Oscar was a KO specialist, except he changed his style for Tito. You've got to be stupid to think you've won a fight after 9 rounds, especially against a Don King fighter. And Oscar's "boxing" wasn't even that impressive. Pitty-patting all night and flurrying in the last ten seconds of each round. Big deal. I have seen better boxing displays, like when Hopkins outboxed and then took out Tito or when Leonard outboxed AND landed MANY power shots on Hagler. The only thing Oscar did well that night was avoid Tito's power shots. He did not finish the job.

    And from what I remember, Trinidad wanted the rematch, but at 154, and Oscar started playing that catch-weight shit, wanting to fight Tito at 151. I also remember Tito wanted a bigger percentage of the money than he got for the first fight and you know Oscar ain't having that. So I don't know where you are getting your "facts" about Trinidad. Even in recent years, Oscar wanted Tito to come down to 154 and fight as opposed to meet him at a higher weight. Sounds pretty scared to me. Trinidad never ran from anybody, you should know that. Not even Hopkins. Tito took his beating from the bigger man like a man. The same can't be said about Oscar. The first sign of serious trouble, he either runs (Tito), fakes a hard/debilitating liver shot (Hopkins), or quits (Manny). But let me not digress too much.

    I agree that the Oscar of THEN would defeat Cotto and Margarito, maybe KO Cotto, but not KO Margarito. I think that Oscar would start "boxing" after 8 or 9 rounds against Margarito, but still get the victory.

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    Default Re: I say ODLH beats Margarito or Cotto

    Oscar was a boxer puncher, especially once Mayweather Snr took over, Oscar outboxed Mosley in their second fight, he outboxed Tito in their fight, he was moving around not allowing Tito to get off and landing a few punches.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg0AecIrk7U

    I don't think Oscar was super effective like Hopkins was against Tito, but he was certainly more effective than Tito was and landed a lot more punches.

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    Default Re: I say ODLH beats Margarito or Cotto

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Oscar was a boxer puncher, especially once Mayweather Snr took over, Oscar outboxed Mosley in their second fight, he outboxed Tito in their fight, he was moving around not allowing Tito to get off and landing a few punches.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg0AecIrk7U

    I don't think Oscar was super effective like Hopkins was against Tito, but he was certainly more effective than Tito was and landed a lot more punches.
    I can't disagree. Tito simply did not adapt once he realized that Oscar was not going to fight. There was no plan B. Still a close fight due to Oscar's stupidity at the end.

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    Default Re: I say ODLH beats Margarito or Cotto

    Quote Originally Posted by Rican View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Oscar was a boxer puncher, especially once Mayweather Snr took over, Oscar outboxed Mosley in their second fight, he outboxed Tito in their fight, he was moving around not allowing Tito to get off and landing a few punches.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg0AecIrk7U

    I don't think Oscar was super effective like Hopkins was against Tito, but he was certainly more effective than Tito was and landed a lot more punches.
    I can't disagree. Tito simply did not adapt once he realized that Oscar was not going to fight. There was no plan B. Still a close fight due to Oscar's stupidity at the end.
    Oscar won at least 8 of the first 9 rounds. Even accounting for his last few rounds, that still should have been 116-112 at best. It was a huge robbery IMO

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