Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
Quote Originally Posted by amat View Post
Vazquez and Marquez would be monumental challenges, especially Marquez. I think he's up to the task, I would probably go with him but against Lopez at the moment I'm not so sure I'd give my left nut to see it though.

But still, you can't expect people to look at it that way. He's not 22, he's 27 and while I don't care that he's not fighting much competition as I know it won't be long before he gets his shot. But the truth is he's fought nobody and talk is cheap fight fans don't usually take notice until you fight somebody relevant. And guaranteed most people are going to blow you and Freddie out of the water with those views.
YOu can't say he has foughten nobody, he is at one of the best gyms in the world dominating people. Roach has experience with both men, Guillermo RIgondeaux isn't your average run of the mill type fighter, he was the most dominant amateur fighter ever, and his style was always very proffesional, he always sat down on his punches, he always fought conservatively, he's always been very elusive and extremely fast. Your right talk is cheap, watch his fights.
I can see why nobody likes you Taeth. Are you this insufferable in real life? Seriously, that's an honest question before you bother reading the rest of my post, if you bother at all. The thing about being a dick is that you have to be smart, or you just end up looking twice as stupid as you originally would have. Would you bother to read my post? Don't act like I don't know who Guillermo Rigondeaux is, I've been talking to you in these threads for years about him and without going to the ridiculously absurd saying he has Pernell Whitaker's elusiveness with Roy Jones temperment and athleticism (I got the jist of that correct didn't I?), I've mostly agreed with you. Just because you lightweight follow the amatuers doesn't make you King Shit in Poop Castle. In fact, instead of telling me to go watch his fights, why don't you go back and read my post? I'm for the most part agreeing with you.

I don't have a problem with him coming up the way I a normal amatuer would, taking 10 or so fights before challenging for a title. Like I have said before, he's not only adjusting to fighting as a professional and not an amatuer, he is also adjusting to making the US his home. If he is going to make a run at the title, he might aswell wait until things have calmed down around him. That is my view, I don't care if he fights on ESPN2 a few times before going to HBO, I still think he can be a champion. Do you understand this?

My sole point was that most others see him as 27 and don't want to hear that, that's the way most people think. Most boxing fans don't take notice until a fighter has actually done something on the professional level. Perhaps rightly so, because plenty of great talents haven't panned out after their first 7 or 8 pro fights. Rigondeaux is an obvious exception imo. Most people don't want to hear people saying that he could beat Marquez or Vazquez but then sign to fight Giovanni Andrade, a C level fighter with a bloated record. That is cheap talk, talk people don't buy. I'm not talking about myself (as if I didn't make that clear enough in my first post), I have demonstrated my faith in his abilities time and time again over the past couple years and I DO think he is a star in wait, all you have to do is read the first few sentences I wrote.

I'm a bit dumbfounded here Taeth, I think you just needed someone to lash out at and just cranky that no one took your bait.