GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys

[Youngblood]

What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol

[fan johnny]

What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol

The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.

Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.

[Youngblood]

What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol

The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.

Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.

I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.

They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.

[Taeth]

I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.

[generalbulldog]

Of course what those guys say is an insult to hardcore boxing fans like us, but for the general public they are trying to sell the fight, so expect to see them hype up the fight.

500-600k ppv buys for this fight, somewhere around that range.

[blegit]

I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.

[Althugz]

I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.

^ Thank you!! ^

Marquez is one of the best p4p fighters in the world and people still ride Mayweather as though he has taken the easy route?

Marquez is the biggest threat to Mayweathers 0 yet. He "beat" Pacquaio twice, somebody who people now think would do Floyd over but somehow Floyd has taken the easy route by taking on Pacquaio's achilles heel? That arguement doesn't make sense to me.

Miles, really?? Hatton made that fight sell 850k in the US? You think there are 850 thousand fat blokes in the US hanging around in english pubs playing darts who bought that fight? Come on mate..nobody gives a fuck about Hatton in the U.S.

Mayweather is a draw..nowhere near on the levels of De La Hoya or some other past fighters but he is a draw..even if only for the fact that people want to see him lose.

Saying that, this fight does nowhere near as much as 1 mill. I reckon 6-700k - Still a good figure

[Rantcatrat]

I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.

I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.

Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.

[Taeth]

I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.

I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.

Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.

Mayweather has foughten at welterweight and higher because he was chasing De La Hoya and titles in different weight classes, there is no other reason. Had he wanted to FLoyd could still be a lightweight. People have talked about him having a hard time making 130 and 135, but Mayweather was already lifting weights and increasing his size to move up.

I honestly saw Hatton as a bigger challenge than Oscar for Mayweather because Oscar didn't look super fast against Mayorga, he looked good, but not very fast. I also thought Mayweather would have used his speed more, but he stood right there a lot more against Oscar, he could have made it an easy night, but I honestly think he was trying to knock Oscar out.

[ElTerribleMorales]

I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.

I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.

Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.

Mayweather has foughten at welterweight and higher because he was chasing De La Hoya and titles in different weight classes, there is no other reason. Had he wanted to FLoyd could still be a lightweight. People have talked about him having a hard time making 130 and 135, but Mayweather was already lifting weights and increasing his size to move up.

I honestly saw Hatton as a bigger challenge than Oscar for Mayweather because Oscar didn't look super fast against Mayorga, he looked good, but not very fast. I also thought Mayweather would have used his speed more, but he stood right there a lot more against Oscar, he could have made it an easy night, but I honestly think he was trying to knock Oscar out.

yet you constantly try to say that Oscar looked great against Forbes when you're trying to blow up Pacquiao's win

[Rantcatrat]

I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.

I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.

Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.

Mayweather has foughten at welterweight and higher because he was chasing De La Hoya and titles in different weight classes, there is no other reason. Had he wanted to FLoyd could still be a lightweight. People have talked about him having a hard time making 130 and 135, but Mayweather was already lifting weights and increasing his size to move up.

I honestly saw Hatton as a bigger challenge than Oscar for Mayweather because Oscar didn't look super fast against Mayorga, he looked good, but not very fast. I also thought Mayweather would have used his speed more, but he stood right there a lot more against Oscar, he could have made it an easy night, but I honestly think he was trying to knock Oscar out.

He may have moved up to chase ODLH, but he has since decided it is his natural weight. It makes sense. Mayweather could have fought Marquez at 140 or 135 if he had wanted. He also could have fought Hatton at 140 because Hatton's natural weight was 140. In the case of Marquez, Marquez has never fought above 135. Instead, Mayweather chose to fight him around 147. It isn't random. There is a reason for it.

[fan johnny]

What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol

The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.

Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.

I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.

They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.

Your application is misconstrued, boxing fans are the buyers. If I walked into a car dealership looking for a muscle car and a salesman offered me a commute car (because that is what he had) telling me it was a sports car as a buyer I'd be insulted and leave. A person doesn't have to be naive to know what they want. It's not my intention to be negative about the fight. It's just part of my character to be honest and for me it crosses the line when it's a lie. I can do with out the BS.

As for marketing, I agree and think it's a very smart idea from HBO & GBP, and I'm sure they will reach some audiences with it, including those boxing fans that jump on the band wagon. If it breaks 1M PPV's, I'm happy for boxing! If it does less than 300K, I'll be happy for Marquez and very sad for boxing because the blame will likely go to the UFC. I'll also have some pity for Mayweather if it does that poorly but only a little.

[JT Rock]

The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.

Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.

I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.

They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.

Your application is misconstrued, boxing fans are the buyers. If I walked into a car dealership looking for a muscle car and a salesman offered me a commute car (because that is what he had) telling me it was a sports car as a buyer I'd be insulted and leave. A person doesn't have to be naive to know what they want. It's not my intention to be negative about the fight. It's just part of my character to be honest and for me it crosses the line when it's a lie. I can do with out the BS.

As for marketing, I agree and think it's a very smart idea from HBO & GBP, and I'm sure they will reach some audiences with it, including those boxing fans that jump on the band wagon. If it breaks 1M PPV's, I'm happy for boxing! If it does less than 300K, I'll be happy for Marquez and very sad for boxing because the blame will likely go to the UFC. I'll also have some pity for Mayweather if it does that poorly but only a little.

You guys are so nauseating and tiring... really now you fukwits feel insulted Gimme a break! Youngblood hit it right on the head... The Unretired former PFP#1 Fighter in the world vs the reigning#2 A match between 2 of the greatest tacticians ever to lace them up. One coming off a 2 year layoff the other storming up a few weight classes and surging thru previous opponents and knocking them out for the 1 time.

Seriously I dont need to watch the video, judging by the detractors insinuating they feel INSULTED is enough to tell me where your brains are.. UP YOUR ARSES!!!!!

It's a made up 'megafight'

Remove Head From A$$ Then Post

[ER-101]

I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.

They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.

Your application is misconstrued, boxing fans are the buyers. If I walked into a car dealership looking for a muscle car and a salesman offered me a commute car (because that is what he had) telling me it was a sports car as a buyer I'd be insulted and leave. A person doesn't have to be naive to know what they want. It's not my intention to be negative about the fight. It's just part of my character to be honest and for me it crosses the line when it's a lie. I can do with out the BS.

As for marketing, I agree and think it's a very smart idea from HBO & GBP, and I'm sure they will reach some audiences with it, including those boxing fans that jump on the band wagon. If it breaks 1M PPV's, I'm happy for boxing! If it does less than 300K, I'll be happy for Marquez and very sad for boxing because the blame will likely go to the UFC. I'll also have some pity for Mayweather if it does that poorly but only a little.

You guys are so nauseating and tiring... really now you fukwits feel insulted Gimme a break! Youngblood hit it right on the head... The Unretired former PFP#1 Fighter in the world vs the reigning#2 A match between 2 of the greatest tacticians ever to lace them up. One coming off a 2 year layoff the other storming up a few weight classes and surging thru previous opponents and knocking them out for the 1 time.

Seriously I dont need to watch the video, judging by the detractors insinuating they feel INSULTED is enough to tell me where your brains are.. UP YOUR ARSES!!!!!

It's a made up 'megafight'

Remove Head From A$$ Then Post

Now that's insulting!

Might reach 500K-600K with all the hype.

[JT Rock]

Your application is misconstrued, boxing fans are the buyers. If I walked into a car dealership looking for a muscle car and a salesman offered me a commute car (because that is what he had) telling me it was a sports car as a buyer I'd be insulted and leave. A person doesn't have to be naive to know what they want. It's not my intention to be negative about the fight. It's just part of my character to be honest and for me it crosses the line when it's a lie. I can do with out the BS.

As for marketing, I agree and think it's a very smart idea from HBO & GBP, and I'm sure they will reach some audiences with it, including those boxing fans that jump on the band wagon. If it breaks 1M PPV's, I'm happy for boxing! If it does less than 300K, I'll be happy for Marquez and very sad for boxing because the blame will likely go to the UFC. I'll also have some pity for Mayweather if it does that poorly but only a little.

You guys are so nauseating and tiring... really now you fukwits feel insulted Gimme a break! Youngblood hit it right on the head... The Unretired former PFP#1 Fighter in the world vs the reigning#2 A match between 2 of the greatest tacticians ever to lace them up. One coming off a 2 year layoff the other storming up a few weight classes and surging thru previous opponents and knocking them out for the 1 time.

Seriously I dont need to watch the video, judging by the detractors insinuating they feel INSULTED is enough to tell me where your brains are.. UP YOUR ARSES!!!!!

It's a made up 'megafight'

Remove Head From A$$ Then Post

Now that's insulting!

Might reach 500K-600K with all the hype.

Glad I could help

You guys act like this fight is an overpriced screwing and colossal waste of time, but yet Pac's minions and most others were happy to pony up $49.95 last year to see him smack around that tomato can David Diaz which was 10x the horseshit matchup