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    Default Re: GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys

    I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
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    Default Re: GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys

    Of course what those guys say is an insult to hardcore boxing fans like us, but for the general public they are trying to sell the fight, so expect to see them hype up the fight.

    500-600k ppv buys for this fight, somewhere around that range.

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    I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.
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    Default Re: GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys

    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.
    ^ Thank you!! ^

    Marquez is one of the best p4p fighters in the world and people still ride Mayweather as though he has taken the easy route?

    Marquez is the biggest threat to Mayweathers 0 yet. He "beat" Pacquaio twice, somebody who people now think would do Floyd over but somehow Floyd has taken the easy route by taking on Pacquaio's achilles heel? That arguement doesn't make sense to me.

    Miles, really?? Hatton made that fight sell 850k in the US? You think there are 850 thousand fat blokes in the US hanging around in english pubs playing darts who bought that fight? Come on mate..nobody gives a fuck about Hatton in the U.S.

    Mayweather is a draw..nowhere near on the levels of De La Hoya or some other past fighters but he is a draw..even if only for the fact that people want to see him lose.

    Saying that, this fight does nowhere near as much as 1 mill. I reckon 6-700k - Still a good figure
    Last edited by Althugz; 09-10-2009 at 07:40 AM. Reason: Additional info

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    Default Re: GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys

    Quote Originally Posted by Althugz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.
    ^ Thank you!! ^

    Marquez is one of the best p4p fighters in the world and people still ride Mayweather as though he has taken the easy route?

    Marquez is the biggest threat to Mayweathers 0 yet. He "beat" Pacquaio twice, somebody who people now think would do Floyd over but somehow Floyd has taken the easy route by taking on Pacquaio's achilles heel? That arguement doesn't make sense to me.

    Miles, really?? Hatton made that fight sell 850k in the US? You think there are 850 thousand fat blokes in the US hanging around in english pubs playing darts who bought that fight? Come on mate..nobody gives a fuck about Hatton in the U.S.

    Mayweather is a draw..nowhere near on the levels of De La Hoya or some other past fighters but he is a draw..even if only for the fact that people want to see him lose.

    Saying that, this fight does nowhere near as much as 1 mill. I reckon 6-700k - Still a good figure
    ex-fuckin-zactly!

    People act as if without Hatton or Oscar Mayweather would be curtain jerking espn events.

    He's a legit and proven draw. His fights with Hatton/Oscar did more than Pacquiao's against the same guys. That says something. & yeah yeah, economy, weight issues, undefeated records, witchcraft blah blah. But a draw is a draw is a draw no matter how much reasoning there is behind it.

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    Default Re: GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys

    I dont see this fight as a farce, i see it as a good fight. Marquez has the skill to figure mayweather out because thats what he does. I think Marquez is less powerful version of Kostya Tszyu and timing is what you need to beat fast fighters like floyd and Marquez certainly has that.
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    Default Re: GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys

    well.. we'll just wait and see if they break 1M buys.. the fight is just around the corner..

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    Default Re: GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
    I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.

    Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
    I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.

    Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.
    Mayweather has foughten at welterweight and higher because he was chasing De La Hoya and titles in different weight classes, there is no other reason. Had he wanted to FLoyd could still be a lightweight. People have talked about him having a hard time making 130 and 135, but Mayweather was already lifting weights and increasing his size to move up.

    I honestly saw Hatton as a bigger challenge than Oscar for Mayweather because Oscar didn't look super fast against Mayorga, he looked good, but not very fast. I also thought Mayweather would have used his speed more, but he stood right there a lot more against Oscar, he could have made it an easy night, but I honestly think he was trying to knock Oscar out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
    I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.

    Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.
    Mayweather has foughten at welterweight and higher because he was chasing De La Hoya and titles in different weight classes, there is no other reason. Had he wanted to FLoyd could still be a lightweight. People have talked about him having a hard time making 130 and 135, but Mayweather was already lifting weights and increasing his size to move up.

    I honestly saw Hatton as a bigger challenge than Oscar for Mayweather because Oscar didn't look super fast against Mayorga, he looked good, but not very fast. I also thought Mayweather would have used his speed more, but he stood right there a lot more against Oscar, he could have made it an easy night, but I honestly think he was trying to knock Oscar out.
    yet you constantly try to say that Oscar looked great against Forbes when you're trying to blow up Pacquiao's win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
    I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.

    Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.
    Mayweather has foughten at welterweight and higher because he was chasing De La Hoya and titles in different weight classes, there is no other reason. Had he wanted to FLoyd could still be a lightweight. People have talked about him having a hard time making 130 and 135, but Mayweather was already lifting weights and increasing his size to move up.

    I honestly saw Hatton as a bigger challenge than Oscar for Mayweather because Oscar didn't look super fast against Mayorga, he looked good, but not very fast. I also thought Mayweather would have used his speed more, but he stood right there a lot more against Oscar, he could have made it an easy night, but I honestly think he was trying to knock Oscar out.
    He may have moved up to chase ODLH, but he has since decided it is his natural weight. It makes sense. Mayweather could have fought Marquez at 140 or 135 if he had wanted. He also could have fought Hatton at 140 because Hatton's natural weight was 140. In the case of Marquez, Marquez has never fought above 135. Instead, Mayweather chose to fight him around 147. It isn't random. There is a reason for it.

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    I will be buying the PPV for this one, no crappy streams for this one fellas.

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    Two ATG's what else do you want? This is for the true boxing fans that know good matchups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    I will be buying the PPV for this one, no crappy streams for this one fellas.
    Agreed. Question fellas: what is the best way to record boxing fights from my digital cable to a dvd? I want to start creating a fight collection.

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