Kirkland news, kind of.

[killersheep]

When is his sentencing hearing?

[ElTerribleMorales]

He did it to himself, I could see if it was something where he was guilty by association but he broke the law and on probation to top it off.....He blew a good thing....Instead of on his way to a title shot making millions he rather be a petty thug

Couldn't agree more, I definitely have no sympathy for people who have been given second chances and blow it. Could have changed his life around if he wanted

yea i completely agree with both, i honestly never thought too much of Kirkland to begin with, i have said numerous times on here, ANYONE with a good right hand would give Kirkland fits, Julio did this to a certain point, IMO Williams (although a southpaw), Martinez, Forrest (RIP), Mora, hell even Cintron would have probably handed Kirkland his ass

[global]

Dude was robbed at gunpoint earlier this year, I know laws are laws but it is not like he pulled a gun on anyone this time. I don't get this idea that Kirkland is trying to play a thug or anything like that. I think he was trying to obtain a gun to make sure he wouldn't be letting himself be robbed again. I don't really know if I agree that felons shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons either, I mean aren't they the people most likely to be shot? They should have to get a permit like anyone else but it is pretty much a fact that if they won't let you get one legally you will have to get one illegally in order to protect yourself.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Dude was robbed at gunpoint earlier this year, I know laws are laws but it is not like he pulled a gun on anyone this time. I don't get this idea that Kirkland is trying to play a thug or anything like that. I think he was trying to obtain a gun to make sure he wouldn't be letting himself be robbed again. I don't really know if I agree that felons shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons either, I mean aren't they the people most likely to be shot? They should have to get a permit like anyone else but it is pretty much a fact that if they won't let you get one legally you will have to get one illegally in order to protect yourself.

should of thought of that shit before being the one doing the robbing, don't you think? fuck James Kirkland, i have no pity on the idiot, laws are laws, he got a second chance, and fucked it up, Forrest got robbed, and had a gun, legally, and well you know how that turned out, difference is Forrest helped people and was never the guy on the other side, my sister was robbed at gun point she had no gun, think i'm gonna have any pity for the guy who did it to her if the same shit gets back to him? hell no

[markb018]

Dude was robbed at gunpoint earlier this year, I know laws are laws but it is not like he pulled a gun on anyone this time. I don't get this idea that Kirkland is trying to play a thug or anything like that. I think he was trying to obtain a gun to make sure he wouldn't be letting himself be robbed again. I don't really know if I agree that felons shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons either, I mean aren't they the people most likely to be shot? They should have to get a permit like anyone else but it is pretty much a fact that if they won't let you get one legally you will have to get one illegally in order to protect yourself.

Yea lets give felons the opportunity to carry guns, awesome idea

[global]

Dude was robbed at gunpoint earlier this year, I know laws are laws but it is not like he pulled a gun on anyone this time. I don't get this idea that Kirkland is trying to play a thug or anything like that. I think he was trying to obtain a gun to make sure he wouldn't be letting himself be robbed again. I don't really know if I agree that felons shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons either, I mean aren't they the people most likely to be shot? They should have to get a permit like anyone else but it is pretty much a fact that if they won't let you get one legally you will have to get one illegally in order to protect yourself.

Yea lets give felons the opportunity to carry guns, awesome idea

At least then we would have a record of the guns they have. Do you think actual gang bangers and violent criminals aren't going to go out and buy another gun illegally anyway? I'm not saying Kirkland should be able to own a gun but there is simple logic to why he might feel the need to own one. That thought has more to do with people automatically thinking he is a thug, and the comments about felons being allowed to own guns to do with the actual law. I know in Kirkland's case he was arrested for a firearm related offense before and he should get in trouble for this. What about someone that stole $1000 worth of golf clubs though and got a felony charge, should they not be allowed to own a gun to protect themselves? Or someone who records a conversation without consent in the state I live, FL, they get charged with a felony and lose the right to protect themselves. Instead of saying all felons can't ever have a gun or ammo again they should change it to crimes seriously violent in nature or felonies commited with the presence of a gun should lose gun rights or make it part of the sentencing on a case by case basis.

Right now it is a blanket law that is not fair. There is/was supposed to be a way to regain gun rights as a felon by requesting a background check that would be conducted by ATF but the federal government doesn't give them funds to run any checks. I am more of the opinion that we should find a way to serial number bullets and make them extremely expensive to buy. Then if someone steals your bullets, you should have to report that the same way you'd report a gun stolen. Say a box of 100 runs from serial number 1000-1100 and they have a record of who bought it, then whoever bought the bullets better have a good excuse for how any bullets with those numbers may have ended up at a crime scene.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Dude was robbed at gunpoint earlier this year, I know laws are laws but it is not like he pulled a gun on anyone this time. I don't get this idea that Kirkland is trying to play a thug or anything like that. I think he was trying to obtain a gun to make sure he wouldn't be letting himself be robbed again. I don't really know if I agree that felons shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons either, I mean aren't they the people most likely to be shot? They should have to get a permit like anyone else but it is pretty much a fact that if they won't let you get one legally you will have to get one illegally in order to protect yourself.

Yea lets give felons the opportunity to carry guns, awesome idea

At least then we would have a record of the guns they have. Do you think actual gang bangers and violent criminals aren't going to go out and buy another gun illegally anyway? I'm not saying Kirkland should be able to own a gun but there is simple logic to why he might feel the need to own one. That thought has more to do with people automatically thinking he is a thug, and the comments about felons being allowed to own guns to do with the actual law. I know in Kirkland's case he was arrested for a firearm related offense before and he should get in trouble for this. What about someone that stole $1000 worth of golf clubs though and got a felony charge, should they not be allowed to own a gun to protect themselves? Or someone who records a conversation without consent in the state I live, FL, they get charged with a felony and lose the right to protect themselves. Instead of saying all felons can't ever have a gun or ammo again they should change it to crimes seriously violent in nature or felonies commited with the presence of a gun should lose gun rights or make it part of the sentencing on a case by case basis.

Right now it is a blanket law that is not fair. There is/was supposed to be a way to regain gun rights as a felon by requesting a background check that would be conducted by ATF but the federal government doesn't give them funds to run any checks. I am more of the opinion that we should find a way to serial number bullets and make them extremely expensive to buy. Then if someone steals your bullets, you should have to report that the same way you'd report a gun stolen. Say a box of 100 runs from serial number 1000-1100 and they have a record of who bought it, then whoever bought the bullets better have a good excuse for how any bullets with those numbers may have ended up at a crime scene.

yea and drug dealers only have the shit on them for personal use, convicted rapists or pedophiles should be able to babysit your children, and so on

[global]

Yea lets give felons the opportunity to carry guns, awesome idea

At least then we would have a record of the guns they have. Do you think actual gang bangers and violent criminals aren't going to go out and buy another gun illegally anyway? I'm not saying Kirkland should be able to own a gun but there is simple logic to why he might feel the need to own one. That thought has more to do with people automatically thinking he is a thug, and the comments about felons being allowed to own guns to do with the actual law. I know in Kirkland's case he was arrested for a firearm related offense before and he should get in trouble for this. What about someone that stole $1000 worth of golf clubs though and got a felony charge, should they not be allowed to own a gun to protect themselves? Or someone who records a conversation without consent in the state I live, FL, they get charged with a felony and lose the right to protect themselves. Instead of saying all felons can't ever have a gun or ammo again they should change it to crimes seriously violent in nature or felonies commited with the presence of a gun should lose gun rights or make it part of the sentencing on a case by case basis.

Right now it is a blanket law that is not fair. There is/was supposed to be a way to regain gun rights as a felon by requesting a background check that would be conducted by ATF but the federal government doesn't give them funds to run any checks. I am more of the opinion that we should find a way to serial number bullets and make them extremely expensive to buy. Then if someone steals your bullets, you should have to report that the same way you'd report a gun stolen. Say a box of 100 runs from serial number 1000-1100 and they have a record of who bought it, then whoever bought the bullets better have a good excuse for how any bullets with those numbers may have ended up at a crime scene.

yea and drug dealers only have the shit on them for personal use, convicted rapists or pedophiles should be able to babysit your children, and so on

And any of that has to do with gun laws how? Previously convicted drug dealers I believe shouldn't face any worse punishment than a normal person if they were to be found in possession of an amount appropriate to personal use. Sexual predators of almost all types need to have harsher sentences for sure. Pedophiles shouldn't be allowed near children ever, there is quite a bit of evidence suggesting most will never stop having fantasies and urges. Again I don't know how any of that has to do with gun laws regarding felons though.

[DaxxKahn]

Dude was robbed at gunpoint earlier this year, I know laws are laws but it is not like he pulled a gun on anyone this time. I don't get this idea that Kirkland is trying to play a thug or anything like that. I think he was trying to obtain a gun to make sure he wouldn't be letting himself be robbed again. I don't really know if I agree that felons shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons either, I mean aren't they the people most likely to be shot? They should have to get a permit like anyone else but it is pretty much a fact that if they won't let you get one legally you will have to get one illegally in order to protect yourself.

Then avoid those areas where you have a chance of being robbed, If you live in a high crime area then don't carry valuables so if it does come up nyou don't lose things of worth.

I find it funny that I am in high crime areas everyday. Jamicia Queens, Queens Bridge, Williamsburg Brooklyn, Newburgh, Troy.

I have a permit and carry a .38 Snub and have pulled it out on someone once in 15 years and that was in a decent neighborhood and it on a guy who had his tool in his hand wacking it off in front of my wife and kids.

Yet Kirkland has one encounter after another

If your not hanging around the wrong crowd, acting the wrong way or doing the wrong things the situatons don't come up too often.

He has brought this all upon himself.

[global]

Dude was robbed at gunpoint earlier this year, I know laws are laws but it is not like he pulled a gun on anyone this time. I don't get this idea that Kirkland is trying to play a thug or anything like that. I think he was trying to obtain a gun to make sure he wouldn't be letting himself be robbed again. I don't really know if I agree that felons shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons either, I mean aren't they the people most likely to be shot? They should have to get a permit like anyone else but it is pretty much a fact that if they won't let you get one legally you will have to get one illegally in order to protect yourself.

Then avoid those areas where you have a chance of being robbed, If you live in a high crime area then don't carry valuables so if it does come up nyou don't lose things of worth.

I find it funny that I am in high crime areas everyday. Jamicia Queens, Queens Bridge, Williamsburg Brooklyn, Newburgh, Troy.

I have a permit and carry a .38 Snub and have pulled it out on someone once in 15 years and that was in a decent neighborhood and it on a guy who had his tool in his hand wacking it off in front of my wife and kids.

Yet Kirkland has one encounter after another

If your not hanging around the wrong crowd, acting the wrong way or doing the wrong things the situatons don't come up too often.

He has brought this all upon himself.

It is easy to say someone should simply remove themselves from the area, but some people grow up in places and that is all they know. Thankfully you haven't had to pull your weapon anymore than that one time. I also agree that hanging with the wrong crowd has a lot to do with people getting into these kinds of situations. It does happen though, I've had guns pulled on me a few times and it was never a result of doing anything wrong or running with the wrong crowd, I just happened to be in the wrong place at the right time when it has happened. I just found it odd that you would call these two people thugs. I didn't call you out saying anything bad, simply because I thought this might be the case, we don't agree with what acting like a thug is. You likely know more about Kirkland's previous troubles and in his case maybe he does act like a thug, just not from what I've seen. Cloud on the other hand I have no idea how he was acting like a thug. I wasn't trying to draw you into this thread just referencing why I began to reply to the thread, and that I got sidetracked from that.

[DaxxKahn]

Dude was robbed at gunpoint earlier this year, I know laws are laws but it is not like he pulled a gun on anyone this time. I don't get this idea that Kirkland is trying to play a thug or anything like that. I think he was trying to obtain a gun to make sure he wouldn't be letting himself be robbed again. I don't really know if I agree that felons shouldn't be allowed to carry weapons either, I mean aren't they the people most likely to be shot? They should have to get a permit like anyone else but it is pretty much a fact that if they won't let you get one legally you will have to get one illegally in order to protect yourself.

Then avoid those areas where you have a chance of being robbed, If you live in a high crime area then don't carry valuables so if it does come up nyou don't lose things of worth.

I find it funny that I am in high crime areas everyday. Jamicia Queens, Queens Bridge, Williamsburg Brooklyn, Newburgh, Troy.

I have a permit and carry a .38 Snub and have pulled it out on someone once in 15 years and that was in a decent neighborhood and it on a guy who had his tool in his hand wacking it off in front of my wife and kids.

Yet Kirkland has one encounter after another

If your not hanging around the wrong crowd, acting the wrong way or doing the wrong things the situatons don't come up too often.

He has brought this all upon himself.

It is easy to say someone should simply remove themselves from the area, but some people grow up in places and that is all they know. Thankfully you haven't had to pull your weapon anymore than that one time. I also agree that hanging with the wrong crowd has a lot to do with people getting into these kinds of situations. It does happen though, I've had guns pulled on me a few times and it was never a result of doing anything wrong or running with the wrong crowd, I just happened to be in the wrong place at the right time when it has happened. I just found it odd that you would call these two people thugs. I didn't call you out saying anything bad, simply because I thought this might be the case, we don't agree with what acting like a thug is. You likely know more about Kirkland's previous troubles and in his case maybe he does act like a thug, just not from what I've seen. Cloud on the other hand I have no idea how he was acting like a thug. I wasn't trying to draw you into this thread just referencing why I began to reply to the thread, and that I got sidetracked from that.

I kind of understand what your saying mate but fact is the man has the ability to take himself out of those situations but chooses not to. He is no longer finacially obligated to staying in the areas where the trouble looms, he can make a better life for himself but rather not....Too busy playing big Willy style instead of focusing on the right thing so yes he is drawn into these things...Why have a gun if you are not near an area where you may need it....Millions and millions of people do not carry guns and they do not fall into situations where they are approached where they are put in danger....Why they stay away from the hot spots.....

If Kirkland put half as much energy into working on his defense he would be a champion already