College Football 2009

[El Kabong]

Tech will never win a NC under Paul Johnson. Guaranteed. Like a 0.0 percent chance.

He's a good coach though but they'll never be able to recruit the top athletes with that offense.

...remember another school that ran the option? NEBRASKA, they didn't have much trouble recruiting and not that it's the end all be all, but Option Offenses keep their players for 4 years whereas schools with more "Pro" style offenses can lose players early.

Option QB's aren't really the same as spread QB's so GATech will get the BEST option QB's easily. Another great thing with the way Johnson runs the option is that the dive back/fullback isn't really a fullback, look at "The Other" Adrian Peterson, look at Dwyer he's just a bigger running back, he's no fullback and that means the dive play is more dangerous than usual because the dive back has the speed and the agility to break it at any time.

Don't sleep on them, this is only the 2nd year they have run the option at Tech...soon it'll be what it was at Georgia Southern where that offense was called the "Touchdown a minute Offense"...what worries me is the defense, they have to have a good defense in order for the offense to work correctly.


ECU lost, apparently they had an awful game especially Pinkney who was something like 16-40 in passing.

[OumaFan]

Nebraska was a different time, things have changed a bit. Anyway we could go on and on but I will guarantee they won't win one. If they do I'll send you a dollar or something.

[El Kabong]

Nebraska was a different time, things have changed a bit. Anyway we could go on and on but I will guarantee they won't win one. If they do I'll send you a dollar or something.

....when you can turn Navy back into a big bowl WINNER like Johnson did playing no easier a schedule than Tech plays now, then you've got something. Johnson can recruit and he'll get better recruits for his team because of the style of his offense and not inspite of it.

We can do some kind of bet, it's funny I already have a bet with a friend of mine and he keeps adding on years for me thinking Tech will never win a Championship. The bet is a steak dinner and each time we discuss it I tell him "Medium Rare" because the way Tech will do it is SEC and Big 12 teams beat each other up and a Big 10 team squeaks by with an unblemished record and Tech wins out in the ACC and then the speed and power of Tech will demolish OSU, Penn State, Michigan....Johnson is already quite accomplished at beating Jim Tressle

[VictorCharlie]

I think an option based team can still be a NC contender. The key is to be a completelty run based offense you need a tremendous defense. As great as Nebraska's option was, the blackshirt defense was always one of the best in the nation.

[Violent Demise]

Nebraska was a different time, things have changed a bit. Anyway we could go on and on but I will guarantee they won't win one. If they do I'll send you a dollar or something.

Listen to Lyle. He's right. Georgia Tech will be the next dominate team to come out of the ACC. They will be a bowl team. And if everything falls into place they have an outside chance at a BCS bowl. In 2 years Tech will be a regular National title contender every year.

[OumaFan]

I'm gonna bump this thread after every national championship game for years

Not gonna happen Sorry.

[El Kabong]

When the option is run correctly nothing can stop it

[amat]

That's pretty tough guys. The depth of the ACC is horrible but improving with NC, Miami and FSU bouncing back last year but it's going to take more then 2 years for any team from the ACC to get back into the title picture. I'm not sure that's realistic. Recruiting to Navy and recruiting to Georgia Tech are two different things entirely.

Plus OumaFan is right, top recruits especially the ones you need like linemen and recievers aren't going to want to run in an option offense. They are going to want to run in pro style offenses on the bigger stage in the SEC.

Linebackers and defensive ends on the elite level are way to fast to get burned on the option. The wildcat like the one they ran in West Virginia is the new option.

[amat]

When the option is run correctly nothing can stop it

Maybe if it's 1994 or maybe if you are playing a Big 10/12 defense everyweek but not in the SEC and not in the Pac 10. With the speed that that part of the country has you can recruit to stop the option really quickly. There is a reason noone has been able to sustain the option for multiple years w/ multiple classes for the past 10 years, the game has evolved past it.

Yeah Navy can make it work for them like Hawaii did the huck and chuck but top recruits who are thinking NFL from their sophmore year of high school aren't going to want to play in a gimmick offense. Have you ever seen a national contending team throw 60 times a game like Hawaii did? It's been a looong time for the option.

[El Kabong]

amat you're right recruiting is different at Navy and at GATech, it should be much easier to get talented players to Tech....let's not forget they have a history of being very good, they won a national championship in 1991.

Coach Johnson won't get the players who want to turn pro early, but option players #1 Stay in school 4 years and #2 Have few choices as far as big time colleges ergo Coach Johnson will get THE BEST option players.

The ONLY Pac10 school I think that could shut down an option team is USC...they may have the speed but I don't think they have the power (other than SC). The SEC has the best of both worlds. The Big 10 teams are too slow and the Big 12, they play defense