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    Default Re: Lyle's, Pick'em Hypothetical Fights

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Thanks for the compliments....but I DID think of Bruno vs Ruddock, it's on page 2 . Those two fighters in general peak my intrest in these hypothetical fights as they are the stereotypical big power no chin fighters so if you pair them either against a pure boxer or another big slugger then you still have no idea what would happen....for example either of them vs Shannon Briggs, Michael Moorer, or Andrew Golota would be tough to call.
    I know you thought of Bruno v Ruddock, thats why i replied. What i was getting at was expressing surprise at the suggestion that it would be a pick'em fight. In my mind its a no-brainer. Ruddock wouldnt break sweat knocking out Bruno

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    OH, well it was Ruddock's ability to underacheive in spots that really got me thinking. In all honesty Ruddock should have beaten Morrison and Mike Tyson, but he came up short vs both guys in 3 fights no less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    OH, well it was Ruddock's ability to underacheive in spots that really got me thinking. In all honesty Ruddock should have beaten Morrison and Mike Tyson, but he came up short vs both guys in 3 fights no less.
    Thats just it.Save for wins over Dokes and Smith,Ruddock lost the big 'name' fights.And his record had more than enough padding.I dont think a win over Bruno would be a gimme at all.After the Dokes win he bought into being a one punch fighter,forgot the righthand,jab became more a probe and was all about 'whys everyone ducking me'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    OH, well it was Ruddock's ability to underacheive in spots that really got me thinking. In all honesty Ruddock should have beaten Morrison and Mike Tyson, but he came up short vs both guys in 3 fights no less.
    Thats just it.Save for wins over Dokes and Smith,Ruddock lost the big 'name' fights.And his record had more than enough padding.I dont think a win over Bruno would be a gimme at all.After the Dokes win he bought into being a one punch fighter,forgot the righthand,jab became more a probe and was all about 'whys everyone ducking me'.
    I would have loved seeing Rudduck fight Holyfield that would have been good because Holyfield would be crazy enough to walk through that smash that Razzor had and beat him in an epic fight.
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    100% agreed, I think Ruddock-Holyfield would have been a nightmare of a fight!

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    I want to bump this thread because I thought of a couple other fights that belong in this thread.

    Tommy Morrison-Shannon Briggs: 2 big time power punchers, decent boxers, but with dodgy chins and questionable stamina. A couple of questions would be answered #1 Who could take more punishment? #2 Who would land first/hardest?

    Floyd Patterson-Bob Foster: (175 or heavyweight) A power punching pressure fighter vs a boxer/puncher with HUGE power. Bob had the height and the reach on Floyd, but Floyd was defensively sound and fought on the inside. This matchup reminds me of Tyson-Lewis.
    Last edited by El Kabong; 08-04-2010 at 10:15 AM.

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    I gotta tell ya,personally I think Briggs was one of the most manufactured heavyweights in quite some time. The man is a physical specimen but save for a last second brick vs Serguei,literally,and a absolute blind mans call vs the shadow of the shadow of Foreman...can I name one single viable and fresh guy he beat? Mmm drew with Botha,in a pretty good mash up granted. Maybe a Jorge valdes

    I think Morrison spanks him. Tommy sat on his wallet occasionally and gassed at times but he went balls out at compared.And I think his left hook could have badly hurt many a solid heavy past and present.He was faster and knew combinations with movement compared to a rigid and often one and done Briggs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    I want to bump this thread because I thought of a couple other fights that belong in this thread.

    Tommy Morrison-Shannon Briggs: 2 big time power punchers, decent boxers, but with dodgy chins and questionable stamina. A couple of questions would be answered #1 Who could take more punishment? #2 Who would land first/hardest?

    Floyd Patterson-Bob Foster: (175 or heavyweight) A power punching pressure fighter vs a boxer/puncher with HUGE power. Bob had the height and the reach on Floyd, but Floyd was defensively sound and fought on the inside. This matchup reminds me of Tyson-Lewis.
    Agreed with Spicoli Tommy beats Briggs.

    Was Patterson a light heavy?, if it was a cruiser then Patterson at light heavy Foster
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    An interesting matchup (don't know why it just seems like it to me at the time) Michael Dokes-Andrew Golota. I guess I figure its 1talented yet flawed fighter vs a better yet mentally flawed fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    An interesting matchup (don't know why it just seems like it to me at the time) Michael Dokes-Andrew Golota. I guess I figure its 1talented yet flawed fighter vs a better yet mentally flawed fighter.
    Michael Dokes had quick hands and showed flashes, how good he could be. But just like the rest of the 80's Heavyweights he shitted it all away on drugs, all though he comeback from that and gave a prime Evander Holyfield all he could handle.

    But i think Michael Dokes would be controlled behind the jab. Similar to how he was vs Gerrie Coetzee, and probably be stopped late on.
    Last edited by ICB; 08-07-2010 at 09:18 PM.

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    Default Re: Lyle's, Pick'em Hypothetical Fights

    Alfredo Angulo vs Yori boy campas.Jr. middle.....seperated at birth You decide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Alfredo Angulo vs Yori boy campas.Jr. middle.....seperated at birth You decide
    With that one I have to go with Yori Boy #1 He fought anyone and everyone and always held his own #2 He had that voodoo stuff (the potion he drank before the De la Hoya fight) and I think it would work on someone with a skill set as limited as Angulo.


    Ricky Hatton-Diego Corrales: Sure Chico never made it (successfully) to any weight class over lightweight, but let's just say during his prime at 135 he decided to move up 5 pounds to meet Ricky Hatton (the one that just beat Tszyu). How would this fight go? I think it would have been a barn burner, a SURE THING for fight of the year, they would have fought this battle in a phone booth, toe to toe. I can't decide who would have won.

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    What got me on that one was the mustaches but thinking about it Campas coming up blazed a trail but really,on more then a few times when it got tough & fugly in there....he opted out. Except Tito and Oscar (?) on Tko L's he quit. Carr,Vargas,Santos ( believe he basically turned his back) and somewhat Angulo-esq Lopez. I thought flighty Collins boxed his ears off too. In fairness though Angulo has not yet faced a acid test like peak Tito and Campas went out blazing...was only after he went spotty.

    Think 154 Campas a better body puncher,touch faster & while Angulo is still green mentally he may be shoulders above Campas. Would be a nasty inside fight,just brutal!!!
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