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    Default Re: Kessler/Ward in Oakland

    Ward, dirrell will get found out in these early matchups. But for all their athletic prowess and boxing ability they are jumping up 2-3 levels right from the get go and will find themselves in with a whole new level of opponent.

    Dirrell has a chance against froch but ward however impressed i was with him saturday night despite the level of opposition is just gonna get worked over by kessler and taken out in 8.

    FWIW I also strongly believe taylor will be too strong for AA and will stop him also!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Ward, dirrell will get found out in these early matchups. But for all their athletic prowess and boxing ability they are jumping up 2-3 levels right from the get go and will find themselves in with a whole new level of opponent.

    Dirrell has a chance against froch but ward however impressed i was with him saturday night despite the level of opposition is just gonna get worked over by kessler and taken out in 8.

    FWIW I also strongly believe taylor will be too strong for AA and will stop him also!!
    Big statement! Taylor needs to fight for 12 rounds, which he has failed to do in the past. AA punches like a mule. Everyone who has stepped in the ring with him says he is the hardest puncher they have faced. Coupling that with Taylor's questionable chin is a set up for a crippling knockout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Ward, dirrell will get found out in these early matchups. But for all their athletic prowess and boxing ability they are jumping up 2-3 levels right from the get go and will find themselves in with a whole new level of opponent.

    Dirrell has a chance against froch but ward however impressed i was with him saturday night despite the level of opposition is just gonna get worked over by kessler and taken out in 8.

    FWIW I also strongly believe taylor will be too strong for AA and will stop him also!!
    He beat Edison Miranda with a broken chin. I can't say JT stopping him, although maybe a win on the cards/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Ward, dirrell will get found out in these early matchups. But for all their athletic prowess and boxing ability they are jumping up 2-3 levels right from the get go and will find themselves in with a whole new level of opponent.

    Dirrell has a chance against froch but ward however impressed i was with him saturday night despite the level of opposition is just gonna get worked over by kessler and taken out in 8.

    FWIW I also strongly believe taylor will be too strong for AA and will stop him also!!
    He beat Edison Miranda with a broken chin. I can't say JT stopping him, although maybe a win on the cards/
    No way Taylor stops Abraham, i have Abraham knocking him out late. Taylor has a chance to win on points but no way he knocks out Abraham.

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    Default Re: Kessler/Ward in Oakland

    Who knows, could be Ward's big night. It wouldn't totally shock me. I do like what they've done with his career. He didn't need every single one of his fights to be on TV, he just needed to work on becoming a more solid fighter, which he definitely looks like he has become.

    The problem Ward could have is he's probably the lightest puncher of the whole group. He's gonna have to fight a lot of rounds against good fighters in order to win this thing. But he's a skilled solid fighter which obviously can make up for power.

    Abraham's complete lack of energy and activity could help Taylor big time. Granted the safe pick is Abraham late TKO but you never know, if Taylor fought a smart fight (why start now I know) he could maybe hold on late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Ward, dirrell will get found out in these early matchups. But for all their athletic prowess and boxing ability they are jumping up 2-3 levels right from the get go and will find themselves in with a whole new level of opponent.

    Dirrell has a chance against froch but ward however impressed i was with him saturday night despite the level of opposition is just gonna get worked over by kessler and taken out in 8.

    FWIW I also strongly believe taylor will be too strong for AA and will stop him also!!
    He beat Edison Miranda with a broken chin. I can't say JT stopping him, although maybe a win on the cards/
    No way Taylor stops Abraham, i have Abraham knocking him out late. Taylor has a chance to win on points but no way he knocks out Abraham.

    I cant remember seeing abraham throw more than 15 power punches in a single round in the endless fights ive seen him in. And thats with 3rd tier opponents.

    Ive said all the way through this thing write jermain off at your peril. Im confident he`ll be too big for a 160pound abraham on the night and AA`s inexperience at the very top level will cost him dear. Taylor will also be able to keep abrahams inside combinations at bay through many stages of the fight with those long arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JazMerkin View Post

    He beat Edison Miranda with a broken chin. I can't say JT stopping him, although maybe a win on the cards/
    No way Taylor stops Abraham, i have Abraham knocking him out late. Taylor has a chance to win on points but no way he knocks out Abraham.

    I cant remember seeing abraham throw more than 15 power punches in a single round in the endless fights ive seen him in. And thats with 3rd tier opponents.

    Ive said all the way through this thing write jermain off at your peril. Im confident he`ll be too big for a 160pound abraham on the night and AA`s inexperience at the very top level will cost him dear. Taylor will also be able to keep abrahams inside combinations at bay through many stages of the fight with those long arms.

    Taylor in 10 - this is the pavlik-hopkins of 2009

    We have to remember Taylor has a poor record at 168 and has fought most his career at 160, Abraham looked fine at 168 against Miranda when he smashed him to pieces, we will have to see but Taylor stopping him is one outcome I dont see.

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    Default Re: Kessler/Ward in Oakland

    Taylor stopping him would be much more shocking than what Hopkins did to Pavlik. Size wise, they were both big 160's, Taylor's obviously taller but I don't see either guy being huge at the weight.

    He could build up a points lead due to AA's inactivity and use that inactivity to rest a bit at times and maybe hold on late but stopping him is unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Taylor stopping him would be much more shocking than what Hopkins did to Pavlik. Size wise, they were both big 160's, Taylor's obviously taller but I don't see either guy being huge at the weight.

    He could build up a points lead due to AA's inactivity and use that inactivity to rest a bit at times and maybe hold on late but stopping him is unlikely.

    hopkins was like a 5/2 underdog

    taylor is 2/1 in many bookmakers
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    Quote Originally Posted by skel1983 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    No way Taylor stops Abraham, i have Abraham knocking him out late. Taylor has a chance to win on points but no way he knocks out Abraham.

    I cant remember seeing abraham throw more than 15 power punches in a single round in the endless fights ive seen him in. And thats with 3rd tier opponents.

    Ive said all the way through this thing write jermain off at your peril. Im confident he`ll be too big for a 160pound abraham on the night and AA`s inexperience at the very top level will cost him dear. Taylor will also be able to keep abrahams inside combinations at bay through many stages of the fight with those long arms.

    Taylor in 10 - this is the pavlik-hopkins of 2009

    We have to remember Taylor has a poor record at 168 and has fought most his career at 160, Abraham looked fine at 168 against Miranda when he smashed him to pieces, we will have to see but Taylor stopping him is one outcome I dont see.

    cant really compare miranda to jermain taylor though can you

    Sure JTs record at 168 isnt great but he does have the natural physique of a 168 pounder and im quite sure come the night he`ll not only have a few inches height and reach advantage but he`ll also be the heavier guy by a couple of pounds.

    This is unchartered territory for abraham and just like froch had to he will have to find that extra 10-15% thats never been there before!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
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    I cant remember seeing abraham throw more than 15 power punches in a single round in the endless fights ive seen him in. And thats with 3rd tier opponents.

    Ive said all the way through this thing write jermain off at your peril. Im confident he`ll be too big for a 160pound abraham on the night and AA`s inexperience at the very top level will cost him dear. Taylor will also be able to keep abrahams inside combinations at bay through many stages of the fight with those long arms.

    Taylor in 10 - this is the pavlik-hopkins of 2009

    We have to remember Taylor has a poor record at 168 and has fought most his career at 160, Abraham looked fine at 168 against Miranda when he smashed him to pieces, we will have to see but Taylor stopping him is one outcome I dont see.

    cant really compare miranda to jermain taylor though can you

    Sure JTs record at 168 isnt great but he does have the natural physique of a 168 pounder and im quite sure come the night he`ll not only have a few inches height and reach advantage but he`ll also be the heavier guy by a couple of pounds.

    This is unchartered territory for abraham and just like froch had to he will have to find that extra 10-15% thats never been there before!!
    I wasnt comparing Miranda to taylor, you said your confident in Taylor beating at 160 lb Abraham, my point was Abraham carried the extra pounds fine against Miranda and even looked stronger. There is no secret Abraham has struggled to make 160 for a longtime, the weight issue will not be an issue imo, for natural strength id give the advantage to Abraham, im not worried one bit about Abraham fighting another fighter at 168, if taylor wins it will be because he is the smarter more skillful fighter.

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    Default Re: Kessler/Ward in Oakland

    Ward has a lot of potential and a bright future ahead if he can display some mental strength. However, he's not, as far as I am concerned, ready for a warrior like Kessler with a killer jab, tons of power and a meticulous technique, I think he'll systematically get broken by the Danish Vicking. I could easily see a final Abraham vs Kessler and that my friends, could be a damn good and exciting fight between 2 good jaws, 2 good technicians and 2 fierce punchers.
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