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    Default Re: My final thoughts on JMM vs PBF

    Quote Originally Posted by pacfan View Post
    The local tv showed Marquez-Casamayor and PBF-Hatton fights as a preview. Watching the Casamayor fight first, I thought there's nooooh way Marquez gonna beat PBF the way he fought there. It took him good 11 rounds to catch Casamayor for good, a man many say who has well passed his prime... but on the other hand...

    I wasn't impressed either with Floyd in the Hatton fight. Hatton fought exactly the way he did against Pacquiao, coming out charging right from the beginning like a crazed bull. But strange of all strangeness (strange phrase, ain't it), the tactic worked well against Floyd, flustering him the first few round until when Hatton was starting to get gassed out. Then Floyd was able to counter the slowed-down Hatton methodically. I've always said here that this is the way to beat Floyd, attacking him hard incessantly, as he has shown to get easily flustered and confused under intense attack. That's because, like most methodical fighters, Floyd fight in certain rhythm - just get him out of his rhythm and get him flustered. So the key, to repeat, is to get him out of his rhythm and stop fighting his game. Castillo proved that long before Hatton did.

    Though I still pick PBF to win this fight, after the 'steroids' craptalks of the Mayweathers, I'm solidly behind Marquez in this fight. I think he should take his chance and attack immediately and hit Floyd hard with all he's got, trying to put him down. Yes folks, Marquez has the tool to knock almost anyone out there in the market. I've always said that here and was always ridiculed for it but thanks to Juan Manuel, he always proved me right. That's the difference between the so-called armchaired analysts and the ones with some working knowledge of the sport. But then he should go slow on those pizzy stuffs (when I was a kid, there was the Fizzies) if he wants to win.

    So here's is my wishful forecast of the fight, which comes from the heart of a man in love than from his mind (I didn't have much IQ in the first place so it doesn't matter much anyways):

    Marquez by KO in round 3. (There's a saying that a prophet's forcast usually happens in reverse so I might actually reverse my forecast.)

    ...but...

    my rational mind sez, like what most folks says, that Floyd is too big, strong and slick for a smaller counter-puncher like Marquez...
    ...but then, that's exactly what I said just before the dela Hoya - Pacquiao fight...

    ...Good luck to Marquez and all his fans...

    ...and shame on Floyd for picking on a small man. C'mon Floyd, pick on a man your size... Well anyway, good luck to his fans as well. But he doesn't need that, he's too proud...

    ...enough of my random, incoherent rambling here...

    ...sorry for any typos...

    ...and mighty thanks to JT Rock, the man of the hour, for sharing his space...
    I dont know PacFan, I compared both fights Pac/Hatton Hatton/ Floyd I saw faster feet and Hatton working behind the Jab. Against Pac he looked flat out of the gate didnt Jab or move his head. I think Floyd would of done a number on Hatton if he showed up in the shape he did for Pac...

    Ricky got hurt multiple times against Lazcanzo and people said Ricky was done... Floyd punished and landed hard crushing blows to Hatton, Ricky kept going because he was undefeated and hungry and still fresh..Pac fought a different version of Ricky, mentally and physically

    Also Floyds dosent have a predictal pattern nor has a pressure fighter been successful

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    Default Re: My final thoughts on JMM vs PBF

    Have been in a Cybil mode on this one since the signing.But its here and happening.Followed Marquez from his days at the Forum and love to watch him think.You can see the wheels turning,a truely great technician and though Mayweather strikes me as a bellowing clod with little man syndrome,he's one of the deepest defensive wizards over the last few decades.Can see Marquez placing himself right in between his past outside counter,side to side mode and the more recent keeping close inside w/assertive sharp punching.Once he finds an opening he works it and builds to create others but not clumsily...guy should be wearing a hardhat and tool belt.Might try to punch between his flurries.He'll come to Floyd,but measured and this is no face first flailing Chavez,Hernandez,or even Hatton.Floyd won't be allowed to coast,Marquez is every bit the ring general with keen boxing mind.I can see a chess match drifting into spurts of short shoot outs followed by a chess match to reposition often as it goes.Think the footwork will be just as vital as each guys hands here.Don't see a TKO really either way,but JMM can be cut up.Think Marquez will win a tight stunner,and Floyds following tirad will be one for the ages.

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    Default Re: My final thoughts on JMM vs PBF

    Marquez is a great fighter but he only fought at lightweight a couple of times and now he is fighting a Welterweight who is faster, stronger, bigger, younger and faster on their feet.

    It's a no brainer in my mind. If Pac could hurt him Floyd certainly can...and he will! TKO round 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Marquez is a great fighter but he only fought at lightweight a couple of times and now he is fighting a Welterweight who is faster, stronger, bigger, younger and faster on their feet.

    It's a no brainer in my mind. If Pac could hurt him Floyd certainly can...and he will! TKO round 7
    Make it round 9, 10 or 11 and I've got £100

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    Default Re: My final thoughts on JMM vs PBF

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Marquez is a great fighter but he only fought at lightweight a couple of times and now he is fighting a Welterweight who is faster, stronger, bigger, younger and faster on their feet.

    It's a no brainer in my mind. If Pac could hurt him Floyd certainly can...and he will! TKO round 7
    Make it round 9, 10 or 11 and I've got £100
    What was your wager?

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    Default Re: My final thoughts on JMM vs PBF

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Marquez is a great fighter but he only fought at lightweight a couple of times and now he is fighting a Welterweight who is faster, stronger, bigger, younger and faster on their feet.

    It's a no brainer in my mind. If Pac could hurt him Floyd certainly can...and he will! TKO round 7
    Make it round 9, 10 or 11 and I've got £100
    What was your wager?
    Threw a fiver each round on 20/1 odds.

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    Default Re: My final thoughts on JMM vs PBF

    Like JT said, it should be a great fight & imo the most dangerous fighter Mayweather has fought since arguably Castillo.

    I think it will be a much harder fight than some say, as Marquez is coming to fight & has the ability & toughness get give Floyd fits.

    Floyd's speed & defense are going to be key in this fight, but if anyone can nullify that speed with timing its Marquez!

    Great fight, can't wait!
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