My final thoughts on JMM vs PBF

[HattonTheHammer]

The local tv showed Marquez-Casamayor and PBF-Hatton fights as a preview. Watching the Casamayor fight first, I thought there's nooooh way Marquez gonna beat PBF the way he fought there. It took him good 11 rounds to catch Casamayor for good, a man many say who has well passed his prime... but on the other hand...

I wasn't impressed either with Floyd in the Hatton fight. Hatton fought exactly the way he did against Pacquiao, coming out charging right from the beginning like a crazed bull. But strange of all strangeness (strange phrase, ain't it), the tactic worked well against Floyd, flustering him the first few round until when Hatton was starting to get gassed out. Then Floyd was able to counter the slowed-down Hatton methodically. I've always said here that this is the way to beat Floyd, attacking him hard incessantly, as he has shown to get easily flustered and confused under intense attack. That's because, like most methodical fighters, Floyd fight in certain rhythm - just get him out of his rhythm and get him flustered. So the key, to repeat, is to get him out of his rhythm and stop fighting his game. Castillo proved that long before Hatton did.

Though I still pick PBF to win this fight, after the 'steroids' craptalks of the Mayweathers, I'm solidly behind Marquez in this fight. I think he should take his chance and attack immediately and hit Floyd hard with all he's got, trying to put him down. Yes folks, Marquez has the tool to knock almost anyone out there in the market. I've always said that here and was always ridiculed for it but thanks to Juan Manuel, he always proved me right. That's the difference between the so-called armchaired analysts and the ones with some working knowledge of the sport. But then he should go slow on those pizzy stuffs (when I was a kid, there was the Fizzies) if he wants to win.

So here's is my wishful forecast of the fight, which comes from the heart of a man in love than from his mind (I didn't have much IQ in the first place so it doesn't matter much anyways):

Marquez by KO in round 3. (There's a saying that a prophet's forcast usually happens in reverse so I might actually reverse my forecast.)

...but...

my rational mind sez, like what most folks says, that Floyd is too big, strong and slick for a smaller counter-puncher like Marquez...
...but then, that's exactly what I said just before the dela Hoya - Pacquiao fight...

...Good luck to Marquez and all his fans...

...and shame on Floyd for picking on a small man. C'mon Floyd, pick on a man your size... Well anyway, good luck to his fans as well. But he doesn't need that, he's too proud...

...enough of my random, incoherent rambling here...

...sorry for any typos...

...and mighty thanks to JT Rock, the man of the hour, for sharing his space...

i suppose you`ll be far too busy watching and wondering what flavour pretzel manny is eating to worry about the actual fight itself

[pacfan]

The local tv showed Marquez-Casamayor and PBF-Hatton fights as a preview. Watching the Casamayor fight first, I thought there's nooooh way Marquez gonna beat PBF the way he fought there. It took him good 11 rounds to catch Casamayor for good, a man many say who has well passed his prime... but on the other hand...

I wasn't impressed either with Floyd in the Hatton fight. Hatton fought exactly the way he did against Pacquiao, coming out charging right from the beginning like a crazed bull. But strange of all strangeness (strange phrase, ain't it), the tactic worked well against Floyd, flustering him the first few round until when Hatton was starting to get gassed out. Then Floyd was able to counter the slowed-down Hatton methodically. I've always said here that this is the way to beat Floyd, attacking him hard incessantly, as he has shown to get easily flustered and confused under intense attack. That's because, like most methodical fighters, Floyd fight in certain rhythm - just get him out of his rhythm and get him flustered. So the key, to repeat, is to get him out of his rhythm and stop fighting his game. Castillo proved that long before Hatton did.

Though I still pick PBF to win this fight, after the 'steroids' craptalks of the Mayweathers, I'm solidly behind Marquez in this fight. I think he should take his chance and attack immediately and hit Floyd hard with all he's got, trying to put him down. Yes folks, Marquez has the tool to knock almost anyone out there in the market. I've always said that here and was always ridiculed for it but thanks to Juan Manuel, he always proved me right. That's the difference between the so-called armchaired analysts and the ones with some working knowledge of the sport. But then he should go slow on those pizzy stuffs (when I was a kid, there was the Fizzies) if he wants to win.

So here's is my wishful forecast of the fight, which comes from the heart of a man in love than from his mind (I didn't have much IQ in the first place so it doesn't matter much anyways):

Marquez by KO in round 3. (There's a saying that a prophet's forcast usually happens in reverse so I might actually reverse my forecast.)

...but...

my rational mind sez, like what most folks says, that Floyd is too big, strong and slick for a smaller counter-puncher like Marquez...
...but then, that's exactly what I said just before the dela Hoya - Pacquiao fight...

...Good luck to Marquez and all his fans...

...and shame on Floyd for picking on a small man. C'mon Floyd, pick on a man your size... Well anyway, good luck to his fans as well. But he doesn't need that, he's too proud...

...enough of my random, incoherent rambling here...

...sorry for any typos...

...and mighty thanks to JT Rock, the man of the hour, for sharing his space...

I dont know PacFan, I compared both fights Pac/Hatton Hatton/ Floyd I saw faster feet and Hatton working behind the Jab. Against Pac he looked flat out of the gate didnt Jab or move his head. I think Floyd would of done a number on Hatton if he showed up in the shape he did for Pac.

You might be right, JT. I watched the fight only twice so I don't remember the details and have to rely on my impression of the fight, so I could be wrong here, but the way I saw it, the difference between Floyd and Pac was that unlike Floyd, Pac countered almost everytime Rick came charging in, whereas the Pretty girl wasn't able to do so at first. Why? It's because Rick went right inside. That's what they usually do when a small fighter fights a bigger one, trapping the bigger man inside - within the range of the small one but too close for the bigger one. But once Rick slowed down and Floyd found his range, what the Prettyboy did was to just step back to get back his range and counter. When he did that, Rick got hurt and he was done.

Floyd punished and landed hard crushing blows to Hatton, Ricky kept going because he was undefeated and hungry and still fresh..Pac fought a different version of Ricky, mentally and physically

Fully agreed there, and if I may add - correct me if I'm wrong - I heard that when Rick was acting as a commentator for the Pac-dela Hoya fight, He was said to have expressed his 'awe' towards Pac's fighting there, and you know that if anyone admires another guys talent, he'd probably lose some of his confidence when facing that person.

The local tv showed Marquez-Casamayor and PBF-Hatton fights as a preview. Watching the Casamayor fight first, I thought there's nooooh way Marquez gonna beat PBF the way he fought there. It took him good 11 rounds to catch Casamayor for good, a man many say who has well passed his prime... but on the other hand...

I wasn't impressed either with Floyd in the Hatton fight. Hatton fought exactly the way he did against Pacquiao, coming out charging right from the beginning like a crazed bull. But strange of all strangeness (strange phrase, ain't it), the tactic worked well against Floyd, flustering him the first few round until when Hatton was starting to get gassed out. Then Floyd was able to counter the slowed-down Hatton methodically. I've always said here that this is the way to beat Floyd, attacking him hard incessantly, as he has shown to get easily flustered and confused under intense attack. That's because, like most methodical fighters, Floyd fight in certain rhythm - just get him out of his rhythm and get him flustered. So the key, to repeat, is to get him out of his rhythm and stop fighting his game. Castillo proved that long before Hatton did.

Though I still pick PBF to win this fight, after the 'steroids' craptalks of the Mayweathers, I'm solidly behind Marquez in this fight. I think he should take his chance and attack immediately and hit Floyd hard with all he's got, trying to put him down. Yes folks, Marquez has the tool to knock almost anyone out there in the market. I've always said that here and was always ridiculed for it but thanks to Juan Manuel, he always proved me right. That's the difference between the so-called armchaired analysts and the ones with some working knowledge of the sport. But then he should go slow on those pizzy stuffs (when I was a kid, there was the Fizzies) if he wants to win.

So here's is my wishful forecast of the fight, which comes from the heart of a man in love than from his mind (I didn't have much IQ in the first place so it doesn't matter much anyways):

Marquez by KO in round 3. (There's a saying that a prophet's forcast usually happens in reverse so I might actually reverse my forecast.)

...but...

my rational mind sez, like what most folks says, that Floyd is too big, strong and slick for a smaller counter-puncher like Marquez...
...but then, that's exactly what I said just before the dela Hoya - Pacquiao fight...

...Good luck to Marquez and all his fans...

...and shame on Floyd for picking on a small man. C'mon Floyd, pick on a man your size... Well anyway, good luck to his fans as well. But he doesn't need that, he's too proud...

...enough of my random, incoherent rambling here...

...sorry for any typos...

...and mighty thanks to JT Rock, the man of the hour, for sharing his space...

i suppose you`ll be far too busy watching and wondering what flavour pretzel manny is eating to worry about the actual fight itself

You're wrong there, buddy. Actually, I'm busy wondering what color underwear my boy might be wearing each day and whether they are scented or not...

...at the more serious level, I'm also interested in what flavors those two fighters will be serving each other this weekend coz the winner of course will naturally be the potential opponent of my boy...

[bzkfn]

I'm gunna put money on JMM to pull off the upset. I think Floyd may have looked past this, underestimated JMM's skills and I can see JMM being smart enough to work his way inside and pound the body to exploit te previous rib injury. It's just a feeling, but I think it's worth a bet as despite the weight, Marquez is a live underdog and I'm stunned so many people have written him off.