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    Based on his dominate win over the great Marquez, I can't see how Pacquiao would even have a chance against Mayweather. It's not the fact that Mayweather won. It's the way he won. Pacquiao, despite being more control now than he was in the past is still a reckless fighter compared to Marquez. Mayweather would have a field day with him. Pacquiao would get himself off balanced and Mayweather would make him pay every time. Mayweather-Pacquiao would really be more lopsided than Mayweather-Marquez was

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Based on his dominate win over the great Marquez, I can't see how Pacquiao would even have a chance against Mayweather. It's not the fact that Mayweather won. It's the way he won. Pacquiao, despite being more control now than he was in the past is still a reckless fighter compared to Marquez. Mayweather would have a field day with him. Pacquiao would get himself off balanced and Mayweather would make him pay every time. Mayweather-Pacquiao would really be more lopsided than Mayweather-Marquez was
    Have to agree with that, a few months ago would have had it 50/50 but after seeing this fight Floyd would make Pac look silly. Even Mosley getting in on the act but peeps are getting carried away. The Mosley that fought Mayorga was getting beat up until the knock so imagine what Floyd would do to him. Mosley looked quick against Margarito but even a Fat Vargas would look quick against him. Mosley is way past it and would be similur to pac-hoya.
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    Default Re: Don't see it

    I agree. Mayweather would easily take Pacquaio.

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Based on his dominate win over the great Marquez, I can't see how Pacquiao would even have a chance against Mayweather. It's not the fact that Mayweather won. It's the way he won. Pacquiao, despite being more control now than he was in the past is still a reckless fighter compared to Marquez. Mayweather would have a field day with him. Pacquiao would get himself off balanced and Mayweather would make him pay every time. Mayweather-Pacquiao would really be more lopsided than Mayweather-Marquez was
    I agree and have been saying this for a while. Pac may beat guys like dela hoya and hatton but they are no floyd mayweather. Floyd has awesome defence and power is a massive part of pacs game plan. Hes gotta be able to hurt you to win and to do that you have to hit cleanly which will be something he cant and wont do against mayweather.
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    Default Re: Don't see it

    I don't know if it would be more lopsided, Pac presents an entirely different challege, but I still think Mayweather would win decisively. I think if he'd gone all out he could've stopped Marquez tonight and I think he'd be able to do the same thing to Pacquiao. I do think a Pacquiao - Mayweather fight would be more competitive though.

    IMO, Pac and Williams are the two biggest threats to Mayweather, and not necessarily in that order.

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    Quote Originally Posted by snakey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Based on his dominate win over the great Marquez, I can't see how Pacquiao would even have a chance against Mayweather. It's not the fact that Mayweather won. It's the way he won. Pacquiao, despite being more control now than he was in the past is still a reckless fighter compared to Marquez. Mayweather would have a field day with him. Pacquiao would get himself off balanced and Mayweather would make him pay every time. Mayweather-Pacquiao would really be more lopsided than Mayweather-Marquez was
    I agree and have been saying this for a while. Pac may beat guys like dela hoya and hatton but they are no floyd mayweather. Floyd has awesome defence and power is a massive part of pacs game plan. Hes gotta be able to hurt you to win and to do that you have to hit cleanly which will be something he cant and wont do against mayweather.
    You touched on it here Snakey, Pac is awesome against someone that will charge forward head first like Hatton and De La Hoya (because he didn't think Pac could hurt him) did, but when he gets put in with a good counter puncher (Marquez) he struggles like hell. Well Mayweather is the greatest counter puncher in the world and is way faster than Marquez and has the perfect defence for a boxer. My view for this fight would be a stoppage win for Mayweather, Pac would get hit all night long and be pot shotted into a stoppage!

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Based on his dominate win over the great Marquez, I can't see how Pacquiao would even have a chance against Mayweather. It's not the fact that Mayweather won. It's the way he won. Pacquiao, despite being more control now than he was in the past is still a reckless fighter compared to Marquez. Mayweather would have a field day with him. Pacquiao would get himself off balanced and Mayweather would make him pay every time. Mayweather-Pacquiao would really be more lopsided than Mayweather-Marquez was
    what was it that you saw, that was suprising in this fight? to base your new (or not new) oppinion pac has no chance now against floyd?

    Plus you know you saying pac has no chance just sealed the ko win for pac against floyd.

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    To answer VD's question, PBF would be Pac's most difficult fight if it happens. With Mayweather's defense, Pac has to use his speed to hurt Mayweather. Pac can hurt Mayweather and aside from his speed and being a southpaw, his punching power is better than Marquez. Remember, Pac dropped Marquez many times in just one round and Mayweather did it only once on Marquez.

    Overall, Mayweather though has the advantage over Pac but it will be truly exciting if he fights Pac.

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Based on his dominate win over the great Marquez, I can't see how Pacquiao would even have a chance against Mayweather. It's not the fact that Mayweather won. It's the way he won. Pacquiao, despite being more control now than he was in the past is still a reckless fighter compared to Marquez. Mayweather would have a field day with him. Pacquiao would get himself off balanced and Mayweather would make him pay every time. Mayweather-Pacquiao would really be more lopsided than Mayweather-Marquez was
    what was it that you saw, that was suprising in this fight? to base your new (or not new) oppinion pac has no chance now against floyd?

    Plus you know you saying pac has no chance just sealed the ko win for pac against floyd.
    That was pretty weak even by your standards.. Floyd is back and Pac is #2 again... ENJOY

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Based on his dominate win over the great Marquez, I can't see how Pacquiao would even have a chance against Mayweather. It's not the fact that Mayweather won. It's the way he won. Pacquiao, despite being more control now than he was in the past is still a reckless fighter compared to Marquez. Mayweather would have a field day with him. Pacquiao would get himself off balanced and Mayweather would make him pay every time. Mayweather-Pacquiao would really be more lopsided than Mayweather-Marquez was
    what was it that you saw, that was suprising in this fight? to base your new (or not new) oppinion pac has no chance now against floyd?

    Plus you know you saying pac has no chance just sealed the ko win for pac against floyd.
    Did you not see the fight? It's pretty obvious the different level in skills Mayweather has. Pacquiao is fast. Mayweather is faster. Marquez can deal with Pac. But not with Mayweather. I don't see what Pac has that would trouble Mayweather. Pacquiao has looked great recently. But that's cuz he faced 3 fighters (Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton) who couldn't hit him. You think Mayweather will have that same problem?

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Based on his dominate win over the great Marquez, I can't see how Pacquiao would even have a chance against Mayweather. It's not the fact that Mayweather won. It's the way he won. Pacquiao, despite being more control now than he was in the past is still a reckless fighter compared to Marquez. Mayweather would have a field day with him. Pacquiao would get himself off balanced and Mayweather would make him pay every time. Mayweather-Pacquiao would really be more lopsided than Mayweather-Marquez was
    what was it that you saw, that was suprising in this fight? to base your new (or not new) oppinion pac has no chance now against floyd?

    Plus you know you saying pac has no chance just sealed the ko win for pac against floyd.
    Did you not see the fight? It's pretty obvious the different level in skills Mayweather has. Pacquiao is fast. Mayweather is faster. Marquez can deal with Pac. But not with Mayweather. I don't see what Pac has that would trouble Mayweather. Pacquiao has looked great recently. But that's cuz he faced 3 fighters (Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton) who couldn't hit him. You think Mayweather will have that same problem?
    you didnt answer my question.

    Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

    Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post

    what was it that you saw, that was suprising in this fight? to base your new (or not new) oppinion pac has no chance now against floyd?

    Plus you know you saying pac has no chance just sealed the ko win for pac against floyd.
    Did you not see the fight? It's pretty obvious the different level in skills Mayweather has. Pacquiao is fast. Mayweather is faster. Marquez can deal with Pac. But not with Mayweather. I don't see what Pac has that would trouble Mayweather. Pacquiao has looked great recently. But that's cuz he faced 3 fighters (Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton) who couldn't hit him. You think Mayweather will have that same problem?
    you didnt answer my question.

    Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

    Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?

    I somewhat agree with Julius on this. Speed and skillwise, Mayweather dominated Marquez but there is also a very important factor here that needs to be considered seriously: Mayweather's WEIGHT!!!. Marquez was like bulldozing a mountain. He could not hurt Mayweather and that's the reason Mayweather was potshotting him.

    Great win for Mayweather though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    Did you not see the fight? It's pretty obvious the different level in skills Mayweather has. Pacquiao is fast. Mayweather is faster. Marquez can deal with Pac. But not with Mayweather. I don't see what Pac has that would trouble Mayweather. Pacquiao has looked great recently. But that's cuz he faced 3 fighters (Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton) who couldn't hit him. You think Mayweather will have that same problem?
    you didnt answer my question.

    Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

    Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?

    I somewhat agree with Julius on this. Speed and skillwise, Mayweather dominated Marquez but there is also a very important factor here that needs to be considered seriously: Mayweather's WEIGHT!!!. Marquez was like bulldozing a mountain. He could not hurt Mayweather and that's the reason Mayweather was potshotting him.

    Great win for Mayweather though.
    How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
    Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post

    what was it that you saw, that was suprising in this fight? to base your new (or not new) oppinion pac has no chance now against floyd?

    Plus you know you saying pac has no chance just sealed the ko win for pac against floyd.
    Did you not see the fight? It's pretty obvious the different level in skills Mayweather has. Pacquiao is fast. Mayweather is faster. Marquez can deal with Pac. But not with Mayweather. I don't see what Pac has that would trouble Mayweather. Pacquiao has looked great recently. But that's cuz he faced 3 fighters (Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton) who couldn't hit him. You think Mayweather will have that same problem?
    you didnt answer my question.

    Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

    Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?
    And fighting a fighter who was weight drained and fighting in a division he hadn't fought in, in over 7 years not a handicap fight in Pac's favor? Only difference is that De La Hoya's condition wasn't public knowledge. But in reality, De La Hoya wasnt a threat. Roach said it himself. The Marquez that fought today beats the De La Hoya, Pacquiao beat.

    Pacquiao has improved as a fighter. But not as much as everybody thinks he has. It just looks like he's greatly improved cuz of his non-threating opposition. Mayweather will bring an end to his little charade.

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    Default Re: Don't see it

    I'm a big Pacquiao fan but I can't see him beating Mayweather. I think that fight will be all about distance. Mayweather won't lead against Pacquiao like he did against Marqeuz because Pacquiao is the kind of fighter who will bite down and take a shot to land one and has the speed in combination punching to actually challenge Mayweather in exchanges. Mayweather will just jab and move and a frustrated Pacquiao will begine to lunge. He'll suprise Mayweather early and will catch him a few times later on but eventually Mayweather will start timing his lunges. Pacquiao doesn't have the jab to close the gap it's just a little flick from the elbow he uses to hit orthodox fighters left glove to set up his straight left. It'll be the two Marquez fights all over again except he isn't fighting a Mexican. He's fighting a guy who doesn't give a fuck about being macho in the ring and won't get himself into exchanges.

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