Don't see it

[Julius Rain]

Based on his dominate win over the great Marquez, I can't see how Pacquiao would even have a chance against Mayweather. It's not the fact that Mayweather won. It's the way he won. Pacquiao, despite being more control now than he was in the past is still a reckless fighter compared to Marquez. Mayweather would have a field day with him. Pacquiao would get himself off balanced and Mayweather would make him pay every time. Mayweather-Pacquiao would really be more lopsided than Mayweather-Marquez was

what was it that you saw, that was suprising in this fight? to base your new (or not new) oppinion pac has no chance now against floyd?

Plus you know you saying pac has no chance just sealed the ko win for pac against floyd.

Did you not see the fight? It's pretty obvious the different level in skills Mayweather has. Pacquiao is fast. Mayweather is faster. Marquez can deal with Pac. But not with Mayweather. I don't see what Pac has that would trouble Mayweather. Pacquiao has looked great recently. But that's cuz he faced 3 fighters (Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton) who couldn't hit him. You think Mayweather will have that same problem?

you didnt answer my question.

Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?

[brucelee]

what was it that you saw, that was suprising in this fight? to base your new (or not new) oppinion pac has no chance now against floyd?

Plus you know you saying pac has no chance just sealed the ko win for pac against floyd.

Did you not see the fight? It's pretty obvious the different level in skills Mayweather has. Pacquiao is fast. Mayweather is faster. Marquez can deal with Pac. But not with Mayweather. I don't see what Pac has that would trouble Mayweather. Pacquiao has looked great recently. But that's cuz he faced 3 fighters (Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton) who couldn't hit him. You think Mayweather will have that same problem?

you didnt answer my question.

Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?

I somewhat agree with Julius on this. Speed and skillwise, Mayweather dominated Marquez but there is also a very important factor here that needs to be considered seriously: Mayweather's WEIGHT!!!. Marquez was like bulldozing a mountain. He could not hurt Mayweather and that's the reason Mayweather was potshotting him.

Great win for Mayweather though.

[Phil]

Did you not see the fight? It's pretty obvious the different level in skills Mayweather has. Pacquiao is fast. Mayweather is faster. Marquez can deal with Pac. But not with Mayweather. I don't see what Pac has that would trouble Mayweather. Pacquiao has looked great recently. But that's cuz he faced 3 fighters (Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton) who couldn't hit him. You think Mayweather will have that same problem?

you didnt answer my question.

Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?

I somewhat agree with Julius on this. Speed and skillwise, Mayweather dominated Marquez but there is also a very important factor here that needs to be considered seriously: Mayweather's WEIGHT!!!. Marquez was like bulldozing a mountain. He could not hurt Mayweather and that's the reason Mayweather was potshotting him.

Great win for Mayweather though.

How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills

[BIG H]

you didnt answer my question.

Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?

I somewhat agree with Julius on this. Speed and skillwise, Mayweather dominated Marquez but there is also a very important factor here that needs to be considered seriously: Mayweather's WEIGHT!!!. Marquez was like bulldozing a mountain. He could not hurt Mayweather and that's the reason Mayweather was potshotting him.

Great win for Mayweather though.

How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills

Not sure about that mate - Getting hit by a guy that much bigger for 12 roiunds is gonna take it's toll. Marquez would've felt that strength every single time he got hit

[Phil]

I somewhat agree with Julius on this. Speed and skillwise, Mayweather dominated Marquez but there is also a very important factor here that needs to be considered seriously: Mayweather's WEIGHT!!!. Marquez was like bulldozing a mountain. He could not hurt Mayweather and that's the reason Mayweather was potshotting him.

Great win for Mayweather though.

How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills

Not sure about that mate - Getting hit by a guy that much bigger for 12 roiunds is gonna take it's toll. Marquez would've felt that strength every single time he got hit

ok its going to take its toll alright, but if he had no power in his shots he still would have won easily because at the end of the day Marquez just couldn't get through his defence, I don't think the 2 lbs over he came in at made any difference.

[KananKrus]

When the time comes that the Pacquiao vs Mayweather Jr fight come before us, would Lil' Floyd Jr. be able to employ his brand of style with ease?

Would he be able to have that left hand cocked so very low against Pacquiao, who owns the very active, powerful, and a muti-faceted right hand, and considered one of the better ones in the business?

I believe the change from a familiar strategy on Floyd's part will play a big role in the dynamics of this dream match. To think and obviously without depth, that it will be an easy fight for Floyd Jr. is ill-advised.

It will be a very competitive fight, cause we must remember, Manny Pacquiao is a legitimate light-welterweight. He could be still be wanting as a full-blown welterweight, but he represents to Floyd someone with size and speed, and with skill not too inferior to that of his' to boot.

To say that Marquez has done better than Pacquiao will ever do against Floyd Mayweather Jr., is another notch won by the futility of all the "IF" scenarios that many of us dwell upon and relish questionably, from its sheer foolishness.

[Jesse James]

Based on last night, I too think Pac-man would be NO match for Floyd. The fight I want to see is Mosley-Mayweather. If Floyd fought and beat Shane, I would never question him again.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

you didnt answer my question.

Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?

I somewhat agree with Julius on this. Speed and skillwise, Mayweather dominated Marquez but there is also a very important factor here that needs to be considered seriously: Mayweather's WEIGHT!!!. Marquez was like bulldozing a mountain. He could not hurt Mayweather and that's the reason Mayweather was potshotting him.

Great win for Mayweather though.

How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills

Really? Then maybe he should have gone down to 135 or 130. He couldn't be arsed to make 144!

[Phil]

I somewhat agree with Julius on this. Speed and skillwise, Mayweather dominated Marquez but there is also a very important factor here that needs to be considered seriously: Mayweather's WEIGHT!!!. Marquez was like bulldozing a mountain. He could not hurt Mayweather and that's the reason Mayweather was potshotting him.

Great win for Mayweather though.

How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills

Really? Then maybe he should have gone down to 135 or 130. He couldn't be arsed to make 144!

I don't know if he could physically make 144 or not, but its not like he came in
and used his weight to bully Marquez around the ring, my point is his skills
won him the fight not his weight, hence it didn't really matter what weight he
came in at. Do you think the fight would have been any different if he came in at 144 or less?

[Rantcatrat]

How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills

Really? Then maybe he should have gone down to 135 or 130. He couldn't be arsed to make 144!

I don't know if he could physically make 144 or not, but its not like he came in
and used his weight to bully Marquez around the ring, my point is his skills
won him the fight not his weight, hence it didn't really matter what weight he
came in at. Do you think the fight would have been any different if he came in at 144 or less?

It isn't his weight; it is their weight. Mayweather doesn't use his size like Vlad uses his size as he doesn't bully his opponents or keep them off with his superior reach and jab. However, when he is fighting a smaller opponent it is easier for Floyd to use his defensive prowess to stay out of reach and win on the cards. Hatton and DLH looked TONS better than Marquez against Mayweather. In fact, in his whole career other than the first Castillo fight, DLH came closest to beating Floyd because it wasn't as easy to stay away from DLH. Pacquiao will suffer the same result as Marquez because he won't be able to close the distance.

The fight wouldn't have been any different at 144 because Marquez would still be a blown up lightweight.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

How was Mayweather's weight an important factor? he didn't use his weight,
Marquez couldn't hurt him because he couldn't land against him, Floyd could have come in at any weight and he still would have won.He doesn't use his weight as a weapon ie Hatton ect. he uses his speed and skills

Really? Then maybe he should have gone down to 135 or 130. He couldn't be arsed to make 144!

I don't know if he could physically make 144 or not, but its not like he came in
and used his weight to bully Marquez around the ring, my point is his skills
won him the fight not his weight, hence it didn't really matter what weight he
came in at. Do you think the fight would have been any different if he came in at 144 or less?

You did the part I highlighted? Where it was claimed that PBF would beat Marquez at ANY weight. Marquez moved up out of his comfort zone and got handed do you think Floyd would have boiled down to meet Marquez? Of course not.

[sumkalambay]

i agree with you now.

[Violent Demise]

what was it that you saw, that was suprising in this fight? to base your new (or not new) oppinion pac has no chance now against floyd?

Plus you know you saying pac has no chance just sealed the ko win for pac against floyd.

Did you not see the fight? It's pretty obvious the different level in skills Mayweather has. Pacquiao is fast. Mayweather is faster. Marquez can deal with Pac. But not with Mayweather. I don't see what Pac has that would trouble Mayweather. Pacquiao has looked great recently. But that's cuz he faced 3 fighters (Diaz, De La Hoya and Hatton) who couldn't hit him. You think Mayweather will have that same problem?

you didnt answer my question.

Coming into the fight everyone know it was a handicap match. a welterweight vs a lightweight, majority knew jmm would get dominated. Nothing suprising.

Pac has faced three guys who couldnt hit him, Diaz de la hoya and hatton. 2 out of 3 of those results shocked the world. I dont think floyd would have the same trouble hitting pac, Juan Diaz and Casa had no trouble hitting JMM either but did they win?

And fighting a fighter who was weight drained and fighting in a division he hadn't fought in, in over 7 years not a handicap fight in Pac's favor? Only difference is that De La Hoya's condition wasn't public knowledge. But in reality, De La Hoya wasnt a threat. Roach said it himself. The Marquez that fought today beats the De La Hoya, Pacquiao beat.

Pacquiao has improved as a fighter. But not as much as everybody thinks he has. It just looks like he's greatly improved cuz of his non-threating opposition. Mayweather will bring an end to his little charade.

[jahmez]

I'm a big Pacquiao fan but I can't see him beating Mayweather. I think that fight will be all about distance. Mayweather won't lead against Pacquiao like he did against Marqeuz because Pacquiao is the kind of fighter who will bite down and take a shot to land one and has the speed in combination punching to actually challenge Mayweather in exchanges. Mayweather will just jab and move and a frustrated Pacquiao will begine to lunge. He'll suprise Mayweather early and will catch him a few times later on but eventually Mayweather will start timing his lunges. Pacquiao doesn't have the jab to close the gap it's just a little flick from the elbow he uses to hit orthodox fighters left glove to set up his straight left. It'll be the two Marquez fights all over again except he isn't fighting a Mexican. He's fighting a guy who doesn't give a fuck about being macho in the ring and won't get himself into exchanges.