Mayweather has Officially re-entered pound 4 pound rankings

[generalbulldog]

Here's a stinger whens the last time a heavyweight was on a p4p list?

Here's another one, when's the last time a hw was ranked no.1 on a p4p list?

Roy Jones Jr. But thats beside the point. Roy wasn't a real heavyweight anyway and was already number 1 p4p at the time so I dunno if we count that.

I was thinking of Mike Tyson. Ring Magazine had him ranked no. 1 for the 1989 p4p rankings and was published in early 1990. It was a little trivia that my friend discovered. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 1989 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Pound For Pound

1. Mike Tyson
2. Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Pernell Whitaker
4. Michael Nunn
5. Antonio Esparragoza
6. Meldrick Taylor
7. Azumah Nelson
8. Raul Perez
9. Virgil Hill
10. Marlon Starling

[sumkalambay]

Here's another one, when's the last time a hw was ranked no.1 on a p4p list?

Roy Jones Jr. But thats beside the point. Roy wasn't a real heavyweight anyway and was already number 1 p4p at the time so I dunno if we count that.

I was thinking of Mike Tyson. Ring Magazine had him ranked no. 1 for the 1989 p4p rankings and was published in early 1990. It was a little trivia that my friend discovered. The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 1989 - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia

Pound For Pound

1. Mike Tyson
2. Julio Cesar Chavez
3. Pernell Whitaker
4. Michael Nunn
5. Antonio Esparragoza
6. Meldrick Taylor
7. Azumah Nelson
8. Raul Perez
9. Virgil Hill
10. Marlon Starling

wow. never thought nunn was in a P4P list.

[Fenster]

Ranking heavyweights P4P sort of defeats the purpose. The heavyweight champ should be able to whup all the other fighters - in reality not fantasy.

Only in exceptional circumstances - like generalbulldog's example - should Heavyweights be rated.

[sumkalambay]

the HW division is currently devoid of skill. but Wlad is so dominant i guess you can put him in that list.

[Fenster]

Wlad isn't really dominant considering his brother would mash him up.

His greatest attribute is his natural size advantage. That's why he should never make anyones P4P list.

[sumkalambay]

prime for prime, i agree with you, prime vitali would obliterate current Wlad.

but i think now Wlad beats him.

[JT Rock]

I cant argue that and maybe is more realistic not based on anything other than Pac became #1 because Floyd retired but though he unretired he didnt have PFP#1 Emeritus I am a fair man and that would be a kick in the nuts to put Pac back at 2 since he has been active all along and he hasnt lost.

Floyd being back is really good for the sport and the PFP, it could shift again depending on a Pac win/lose over Cotto and if Mayweather wins over Mosely.

In case they both win you would have to weigh what was more impressive Pac over Cotto or Mayweather over Mosely.. All four are in the PFP list and you gotta think whomever emerges in this little tournament will be PFP#1. Seems inevitiable, then again this is Boxing and anything can happen

[Beanflicker]

His greatest attribute is his natural size advantage. That's why he should never make anyones P4P list.

Well Ali's greatest attribute was his natural speed advantage. So does that mean he shouldn't make anyone's p4p ATG lists either? I don't get that double standard.

You can't hold someone down because they have are naturally, physically blessed. Would Tyson have been as good without his natural speed and power?

[Beanflicker]

BTW how does Celestino Caballero make the top 10? Sure he dominated Molitor, but how does that put him over guys like Chris John?

[Fenster]

His greatest attribute is his natural size advantage. That's why he should never make anyones P4P list.

Well Ali's greatest attribute was his natural speed advantage. So does that mean he shouldn't make anyone's p4p ATG lists either? I don't get that double standard.

You can't hold someone down because they have are naturally, physically blessed. Would Tyson have been as good without his natural speed and power?

Don't be silly, natural speed and natural size are completely different. You can be any size and still possess great speed but only a select few have a natural size advantage.

Wlad has a natural height, reach and weight advantage over just about everyone he's ever fought.