Lets be honest about last night!!!!

[Majesty]

If we compare the challenges undertaken against individual opponents, i think it'd be clear that Mosleys record needs no flak for choice of opponents. You'll probably find atleast 5 fighters of greater challenge than floyd has on his resume. Foresst, Winky, Cotto and Margarito to name four straight away

He lost to both Forrest and Winky by the way. So they are counted for him just taking them on but not losing twice to both? Hell Trinidad has Winky on his record, want to give him credit for losing too? Mosley also lost to Cotto, the only people on that 4 Mosley has beaten was Margarito.

now lets look at Floyds

G. Hernandez, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez.

Mayweather beat them all.

In fact putting all those names on Shanes resume. You say, Forrest, Wright, Cotto, De La Hoya. The only person Shane beat was Oscar. And even that was debatable the second time around.

Castillo beat him and the rest were at the end of their careers. The elite stopped Judah, Gatti was battered by DLH before his wars with Ward years before and stopped quicker, Hoya was at the end of his career, Baldomir was a one off lucky 'Rocky story', Hatton was crap at Welter as was Marquez. Shane has lost fights because he has fought the best and most dangerous guys around while they were in their PRIME!

Surely you know your talking rubbish

I can cherry pick too. lets compare to the current p4p number 1.

Pacquiao lost to Marquez twice, even more clear the second time around. When Mayweather fought Castillo the second time around he beat him easily, he didn't struggle worse.

Hatton, De La Hoya, Barerra and Morales were at the end of their careers when Pacquiao fought them and De La Hoya and Hatton are the two fights that vaulted him to the number 1 p4p spot, but when Mayweather does it first and when they are a lot fresher then when they fought Pacquiao then you take credit from him? And no matter what kind of spin you want to put on Shane's losses, he still lost them, if Mayweather were to fight Wright and lose no one would say that it was because he was willing to fight the best they'd use it as an excuse to say he wasn't the best anyway. And Forrest made his name off of destroying Shane Mosley. So who is the one talking rubbish here? Get over the hate

[Kel]

He lost to both Forrest and Winky by the way. So they are counted for him just taking them on but not losing twice to both? Hell Trinidad has Winky on his record, want to give him credit for losing too? Mosley also lost to Cotto, the only people on that 4 Mosley has beaten was Margarito.

now lets look at Floyds

G. Hernandez, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Corrales, Castillo, Gatti, Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez.

Mayweather beat them all.

In fact putting all those names on Shanes resume. You say, Forrest, Wright, Cotto, De La Hoya. The only person Shane beat was Oscar. And even that was debatable the second time around.

Castillo beat him and the rest were at the end of their careers. The elite stopped Judah, Gatti was battered by DLH before his wars with Ward years before and stopped quicker, Hoya was at the end of his career, Baldomir was a one off lucky 'Rocky story', Hatton was crap at Welter as was Marquez. Shane has lost fights because he has fought the best and most dangerous guys around while they were in their PRIME!

Surely you know your talking rubbish

Pacquiao lost to Marquez twice, even more clear the second time around. When Mayweather fought Castillo the second time around he beat him easily, he didn't struggle worse.

Hatton, De La Hoya, Barerra and Morales were at the end of their careers when Pacquiao fought them and De La Hoya and Hatton are the two fights that vaulted him to the number 1 p4p spot, but when Mayweather does it first and when they are a lot fresher then when they fought Pacquiao then you take credit from him? So who is the one talking rubbish here?

I was talking about Floyd not Pac. Which bits confusing you? I reply to your post regarding Floyd and Shane and you start talking about Pacman.

I give up man you avoid the issue all the time so to hell with it lol

[Majesty]

Castillo beat him and the rest were at the end of their careers. The elite stopped Judah, Gatti was battered by DLH before his wars with Ward years before and stopped quicker, Hoya was at the end of his career, Baldomir was a one off lucky 'Rocky story', Hatton was crap at Welter as was Marquez. Shane has lost fights because he has fought the best and most dangerous guys around while they were in their PRIME!

Surely you know your talking rubbish

Pacquiao lost to Marquez twice, even more clear the second time around. When Mayweather fought Castillo the second time around he beat him easily, he didn't struggle worse.

Hatton, De La Hoya, Barerra and Morales were at the end of their careers when Pacquiao fought them and De La Hoya and Hatton are the two fights that vaulted him to the number 1 p4p spot, but when Mayweather does it first and when they are a lot fresher then when they fought Pacquiao then you take credit from him? So who is the one talking rubbish here?

I was talking about Floyd not Pac. Which bits confusing you? I reply to your post regarding Floyd and Shane and you start talking about Pacman.

I give up man you avoid the issue all the time so to hell with it lol

Apparently you made this before I added the information about Shane.

So let me put it here

And no matter what kind of spin you want to put on Shane's losses, he still lost them, if Mayweather were to fight Wright and lose no one would say that it was because he was willing to fight the best they'd use it as an excuse to say he wasn't the best anyway. And Forrest made his name off of destroying Shane Mosley, prior to that he was an unknown . So who is the one talking rubbish here? Get over the hate. After he beat Oscar he fought a bunch of nobodies until Forrest wrecked him, and then went on to lose again, and then fought Wright and lost one sidedly, and then lost again to Wright.

Like I said, if Floyd had those losses on his record people wouldn't say "it's a testament to how great Floyd is to fight the best" they'd say "whenever he stepped up to some REAL competition he got beaten" and thats just how it is. Its a double standard when it comes to people like Floyd and people like Mosley. You make up two different sets of rules depending on which fighter you like more. Don't blame Floyd for winning and don't credit Mosley for losing. Floyd wanted a piece of Shane a long long time ago back and Shane didn't want it. The only reason Shane wants Floyd now is because it would get him one final pay day to go off into the sunset on. That's where the most money is. If Shane wanted a challenge he'd be fighting the people everyone is saying Floyd should be fighting. Why isn't Mosley moving up to 154 to fight Paul Williams? Why does Floyd have to be the one to do it? Why does Floyd have to fight Berto? Shouldn't Shane be trying to make that fight? Shane is as much after mega paydays as Floyd is and will cherry pick just as bad if he wants to make his money. But people only acknowledge when Floyd does it because he is easier to hate.