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[ElTerribleMorales]

hell then going by your logic JT, Mayweather said he fought Hatton and Marquez for the same reason, cause they called him out, fuck, Mosley's been calling him out, so why does he need any other motive to take the fight?

[DaxxKahn]

[quote=JT Rock;789443]

Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....

BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!

Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...

Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....

When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....

Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...

And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....

OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting.....

I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one

As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?

So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?

OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?

Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?

Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?

Please humor me and answer those 3 questions

No I won't say Floyd should not have fought Baldomir but what about defending the title?

If you want to move to 154 fine but again what about defending the title? Or is the fact you only managed a SD against a fighter past his best make you decide not to?

Sure take the fight with Hatton a natural JWW but what about when he was a JWW and again what about defending it?....NO wait Bruseles and Corley 1 shot the other second tier at best before winning a title should be enough to go on?

So answer my questions now

[DaxxKahn]

[quote=JT Rock;789443]

Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....

BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!

Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...

Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....

When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....

Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...

And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....

OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting.....

I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one

As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?

So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?

OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?

Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?

Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?

Please humor me and answer those 3 questions

No I won't say Floyd should not have fought Baldomir but what about defending the title?

If you want to move to 154 fine but again what about defending the title? Or is the fact you only managed a SD against a fighter past his best make you decide not to?

Sure take the fight with Hatton a natural JWW but what about when he was a JWW and again what about defending it?....NO wait Bruseles and Corley 1 shot the other second tier at best before winning a title should be enough to go on?

So I answered your questions dont act like Mayweather with a legit challenge in front of him and avoid mine

[Rantcatrat]

[quote=JT Rock;789443]

Pretty sure recently Brian Kenny had Floyd and Shane on ESPN and Floyds excuse was "Shane is not a big enough draw" said it to Mosley.....

BUT HE HAD NO PROBLEM FIGHTING CARLOS BALDOMIR THE FREAKING ALL TIME PPV KING RIGHT!!!!!

Give it a break JT....Not only me but just about every poster on this forum who knows their shit on boxing that has makde a post on this thread has something simular or has given a chicken shit move pulled by Floyd so don't act as though I am the only one giving you shit about him...

Everyone else can't be wrong JT....You act as though people are saying Floyd has no talent and is over rated etc....

When in truth all everyone is saying is he cherry picks, refuses to fight the toughest challenges out there....Finds excuses for fights not to happen....

Meanwhile every other top fighter from 135-168 are looking at or fighting no one but the best comp available regardless of paydays.....Not every fight is the mega payday...doesnt work like that...

And if Floyd was the mega star he claims it should not matter who he fights because he would make money regardless if he got a percentage of the sales...A fighter that draws so many numbers like Floyd would have no problem getting such a deal...and again a fighter who draws soooo much in PPV numbers would make more off a percent then a guarenteed purse....

OR...Is it the fact Floyd has pulled in big PPV numbers because of who he is fighting not the fact he is fighting.....

I mean lets face it DLH could pull in record breaking PPV buys if he had sparring matches on PPV....Floyd was not the money earner in that one

As for talk to my Promoter/Manager....I could be wrong here buty doesnt Floyd claim to call his own shots?

So if thats true who is it exactly that is preventing these bouts from being made?

OR is Floyd a liar about that as well?

Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?

Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?

Please humor me and answer those 3 questions

I'll try to answer the questions. We understand the motivation was money. We get it. Floyd has boxed his whole life and deserved the Hatton and DLH pay offs. That explains why he chose the Hatton and DLH fights, but it doesn't mean the choices don't merit criticism and it doesn't explain why he chose Marquez (although I understand it was his come-back fight). Fighters who endear themselves to their fans are fighters who consistently challenge themselves and go into fights as underdogs. Maybe it is because of money, but Floyd hasn't fought a true dominant welterweight and he has fought there for five years.

As boxing fans, is it wrong for us to expect more from the p4p best fighter in the world?

Oh and I don't excuse Shane and Bernard's actions, but they did it because how else are they going to get Floyd in the ring with Shane or get Shane any sort of big fight?

[DaxxKahn]

[quote=Rantcatrat;789450]

Again Daxx why are you not answering questions? So you are suggesting Floyd should have foregone a shot at the lineal Welterweight Championship of the world as well as Monumental paydays versus Hatton and Delahoya?

Are you also pissed that Floyd didnt sign the mosely contract using Kellermans back sat night?

Please humor me and answer those 3 questions

I'll try to answer the questions. We understand the motivation was money. We get it. Floyd has boxed his whole life and deserved the Hatton and DLH pay offs. That explains why he chose the Hatton and DLH fights, but it doesn't mean the choices don't merit criticism and it doesn't explain why he chose Marquez (although I understand it was his come-back fight). Fighters who endear themselves to their fans are fighters who consistently challenge themselves and go into fights as underdogs. Maybe it is because of money, but Floyd hasn't fought a true dominant welterweight and he has fought there for five years.

As boxing fans, is it wrong for us to expect more from the p4p best fighter in the world?

Oh and I don't excuse Shane and Bernard's actions, but they did it because how else are they going to get Floyd in the ring with Shane or get Shane any sort of big fight?

Well said

[JT Rock]

Paul Williams is begging for a fight with ANYONE right now

Weird, thought he had a tentative fight with Pavlik based on a his health of course and date

....So has nothignt o do with Bleeding hearts and Mosley...Has to do with Floyd not going after an opponent he KNOWS he will beat....REAL

He was out of the sport for a while Daxx, and he took on JMM.. Just like Trinidad and DLH handpicked Mayorga since his style was tailor made for them, regardless of size

.

Hatton was tailor made for any counter puncher and he kept Floyd busy for a while....He certainly did not shut out Oscar and that was a far from best DLH

I find that logic mondo BS, by your logic than Manny Pacquiaos wins are less impressive because Floyd beat those guys 2 years prior to Pac doing it This forum went ape shit as well as everyone else when this fight was announced tons of people wanted to see it, because they claimed Ricky's jab, headmovement, closing distance, body punching, power, stamina and ruthless aggression was the silver bullet to beat Mayweather.

As well as Oscars Physical advantages, size, chin, power, jab as well EVERY OTHER CONTRACTUAL ADVANTAGES was what it would take to beat Floyd.

Its so predictable, when a Mayweather fight is announced with the exception of JMM You haters with your pitchforks and torches proclaim that the little phucker is finally going to get his because of the above mentioned matchups only to have Floyd beat the guy and you all belly ache, same pattern wash, rinse and repeat.

So now that he isint fighting Shane next week the whole Floyds ducking groans are starting up again even though its routine that fighters always negoiate their fights in a 72 hour window after their contest
Floyd obviously missed that amendment put in the Commission rules by Daxx and his lackeys so apparently Mayweather is ducking Shane..

[DaxxKahn]

Paul Williams is begging for a fight with ANYONE right now

Weird, thought he had a tentative fight with Pavlik based on a his health of course and date

....So has nothignt o do with Bleeding hearts and Mosley...Has to do with Floyd not going after an opponent he KNOWS he will beat....REAL

He was out of the sport for a while Daxx, and he took on JMM.. Just like Trinidad and DLH handpicked Mayorga since his style was tailor made for them, regardless of size

.

Hatton was tailor made for any counter puncher and he kept Floyd busy for a while....He certainly did not shut out Oscar and that was a far from best DLH

I find that logic mondo BS, This forum went ape shit as well as everyone else when this fight was announced tons of people wanted to see it, because they claimed Ricky's jab, headmovement, closing distance, body punching, power, stamina and ruthless aggression was the silver bullet to beat Mayweather.

As well as Oscars Physical advantages, size, chin, power, jab as well EVERY OTHER CONTRACTUAL ADVANTAGES was what it would take to beat Floyd.

Its so predictable, when a Mayweather fight is announced with the exception of JMM You haters with your pitchforks and torches proclaim that the little phucker is finally going to get his because of the above mentioned matchups only to have Floyd beat the guy and you all belly ache, same pattern wash, rinse and repeat.

So now that he isint fighting Shane next week the whole Floyds ducking groans are starting up again even though its routine that fighters always negoiate their fights in a 72 hour window after their contest
Floyd obviously missed that amendment put in the Commission rules by Daxx and his lackeys so apparently Mayweather is ducking Shane..

Hatton is not tailor made for a counter puncher?

There is a difference between hoping a guy beats another and actually knowing it will happen.

I do agree on the fac t people get a bit over zealous stating this guy will beat that one because of this or that...In t6his case the Mayweather/Hatton fight...People do tend to let their emotions write checks their fighters cant cash.....

As far as Mayorga fighting Tito and Oscar...The size really was nbot signifigant nor the weight and Mayorga was damn dangerous at that time for anyone

[ElTerribleMorales]

Paul Williams is begging for a fight with ANYONE right now

Weird, thought he had a tentative fight with Pavlik based on a his health of course and date

....So has nothignt o do with Bleeding hearts and Mosley...Has to do with Floyd not going after an opponent he KNOWS he will beat....REAL

He was out of the sport for a while Daxx, and he took on JMM.. Just like Trinidad and DLH handpicked Mayorga since his style was tailor made for them, regardless of size

.

Hatton was tailor made for any counter puncher and he kept Floyd busy for a while....He certainly did not shut out Oscar and that was a far from best DLH

I find that logic mondo BS, This forum went ape shit as well as everyone else when this fight was announced tons of people wanted to see it, because they claimed Ricky's jab, headmovement, closing distance, body punching, power, stamina and ruthless aggression was the silver bullet to beat Mayweather.

As well as Oscars Physical advantages, size, chin, power, jab as well EVERY OTHER CONTRACTUAL ADVANTAGES was what it would take to beat Floyd.

Its so predictable, when a Mayweather fight is announced with the exception of JMM You haters with your pitchforks and torches proclaim that the little phucker is finally going to get his because of the above mentioned matchups only to have Floyd beat the guy and you all belly ache, same pattern wash, rinse and repeat.

So now that he isint fighting Shane next week the whole Floyds ducking groans are starting up again even though its routine that fighters always negoiate their fights in a 72 hour window after their contest
Floyd obviously missed that amendment put in the Commission rules by Daxx and his lackeys so apparently Mayweather is ducking Shane..

Mayorga (a natural welterweight) moved up to Middleweight to fight Trinidad who hadn't fought in over 2 yrs like Mayweather, and only up to Jr Middle to fight a DLH who hadn't fought in 2 yrs as well, and the difference is Mayweather is in his prime, when DLH and Tito were notably past it

and aside from the Hatton fanboys, but the general public (myself included) said that Mayweather/Hatton = Calzaghe/Lacy

whats the difference from what Oscar did to what Mayweather has done against Hatton and Marquez? both had to move up, both had to go to Vegas (which is Mayweather's second home), and well in the Marquez fight he didn't even bother to honor his contract and make the weight, IMO Mayweather is an ATG talent, but does he go after the best at his best, no

[Julius Rain]

Paul Williams is begging for a fight with ANYONE right now

Weird, thought he had a tentative fight with Pavlik based on a his health of course and date

He was out of the sport for a while Daxx, and he took on JMM.. Just like Trinidad and DLH handpicked Mayorga since his style was tailor made for them, regardless of size

.

Hatton was tailor made for any counter puncher and he kept Floyd busy for a while....He certainly did not shut out Oscar and that was a far from best DLH

I find that logic mondo BS, This forum went ape shit as well as everyone else when this fight was announced tons of people wanted to see it, because they claimed Ricky's jab, headmovement, closing distance, body punching, power, stamina and ruthless aggression was the silver bullet to beat Mayweather.

As well as Oscars Physical advantages, size, chin, power, jab as well EVERY OTHER CONTRACTUAL ADVANTAGES was what it would take to beat Floyd.

Its so predictable, when a Mayweather fight is announced with the exception of JMM You haters with your pitchforks and torches proclaim that the little phucker is finally going to get his because of the above mentioned matchups only to have Floyd beat the guy and you all belly ache, same pattern wash, rinse and repeat.

So now that he isint fighting Shane next week the whole Floyds ducking groans are starting up again even though its routine that fighters always negoiate their fights in a 72 hour window after their contest
Floyd obviously missed that amendment put in the Commission rules by Daxx and his lackeys so apparently Mayweather is ducking Shane..

Mayorga (a natural welterweight) moved up to Middleweight to fight Trinidad who hadn't fought in over 2 yrs like Mayweather, and only up to Jr Middle to fight a DLH who hadn't fought in 2 yrs as well, and the difference is Mayweather is in his prime, when DLH and Tito were notably past it

and aside from the Hatton fanboys, but the general public (myself included) said that Mayweather/Hatton = Calzaghe/Lacy

whats the difference from what Oscar did to what Mayweather has done against Hatton and Marquez? both had to move up, both had to go to Vegas (which is Mayweather's second home), and well in the Marquez fight he didn't even bother to honor his contract and make the weight, IMO Mayweather is an ATG talent, but does he go after the best at his best, no

I think Vegas is Floyds only home, wasn't he born and raise there?

[ElTerribleMorales]

Weird, thought he had a tentative fight with Pavlik based on a his health of course and date

He was out of the sport for a while Daxx, and he took on JMM.. Just like Trinidad and DLH handpicked Mayorga since his style was tailor made for them, regardless of size

.I find that logic mondo BS, This forum went ape shit as well as everyone else when this fight was announced tons of people wanted to see it, because they claimed Ricky's jab, headmovement, closing distance, body punching, power, stamina and ruthless aggression was the silver bullet to beat Mayweather.

As well as Oscars Physical advantages, size, chin, power, jab as well EVERY OTHER CONTRACTUAL ADVANTAGES was what it would take to beat Floyd.

Its so predictable, when a Mayweather fight is announced with the exception of JMM You haters with your pitchforks and torches proclaim that the little phucker is finally going to get his because of the above mentioned matchups only to have Floyd beat the guy and you all belly ache, same pattern wash, rinse and repeat.

So now that he isint fighting Shane next week the whole Floyds ducking groans are starting up again even though its routine that fighters always negoiate their fights in a 72 hour window after their contest
Floyd obviously missed that amendment put in the Commission rules by Daxx and his lackeys so apparently Mayweather is ducking Shane..

Mayorga (a natural welterweight) moved up to Middleweight to fight Trinidad who hadn't fought in over 2 yrs like Mayweather, and only up to Jr Middle to fight a DLH who hadn't fought in 2 yrs as well, and the difference is Mayweather is in his prime, when DLH and Tito were notably past it

and aside from the Hatton fanboys, but the general public (myself included) said that Mayweather/Hatton = Calzaghe/Lacy

whats the difference from what Oscar did to what Mayweather has done against Hatton and Marquez? both had to move up, both had to go to Vegas (which is Mayweather's second home), and well in the Marquez fight he didn't even bother to honor his contract and make the weight, IMO Mayweather is an ATG talent, but does he go after the best at his best, no

I think Vegas is Floyds only home, wasn't he born and raise there?

born and raised in Grand Rapids Michigan

[leftylee]

Paul Williams is begging for a fight with ANYONE right now

Weird, thought he had a tentative fight with Pavlik based on a his health of course and date

....So has nothignt o do with Bleeding hearts and Mosley...Has to do with Floyd not going after an opponent he KNOWS he will beat....REAL

He was out of the sport for a while Daxx, and he took on JMM.. Just like Trinidad and DLH handpicked Mayorga since his style was tailor made for them, regardless of size

.

Hatton was tailor made for any counter puncher and he kept Floyd busy for a while....He certainly did not shut out Oscar and that was a far from best DLH

I find that logic mondo BS, by your logic than Manny Pacquiaos wins are less impressive because Floyd beat those guys 2 years prior to Pac doing it This forum went ape shit as well as everyone else when this fight was announced tons of people wanted to see it, because they claimed Ricky's jab, headmovement, closing distance, body punching, power, stamina and ruthless aggression was the silver bullet to beat Mayweather.

As well as Oscars Physical advantages, size, chin, power, jab as well EVERY OTHER CONTRACTUAL ADVANTAGES was what it would take to beat Floyd.

Its so predictable, when a Mayweather fight is announced with the exception of JMM You haters with your pitchforks and torches proclaim that the little phucker is finally going to get his because of the above mentioned matchups only to have Floyd beat the guy and you all belly ache, same pattern wash, rinse and repeat.

So now that he isint fighting Shane next week the whole Floyds ducking groans are starting up again even though its routine that fighters always negoiate their fights in a 72 hour window after their contest
Floyd obviously missed that amendment put in the Commission rules by Daxx and his lackeys so apparently Mayweather is ducking Shane..

Pacquiao beat Hatton at his best, 140 pounds. Hatton at 147 is a completely different fighter and completely worse fighter.

[JT Rock]

[quote=DaxxKahn;789451]

I'll try to answer the questions. We understand the motivation was money. We get it. Floyd has boxed his whole life and deserved the Hatton and DLH pay offs. That explains why he chose the Hatton and DLH fights, but it doesn't mean the choices don't merit criticism and it doesn't explain why he chose Marquez (although I understand it was his come-back fight). Fighters who endear themselves to their fans are fighters who consistently challenge themselves and go into fights as underdogs. Maybe it is because of money, but Floyd hasn't fought a true dominant welterweight and he has fought there for five years.

As boxing fans, is it wrong for us to expect more from the p4p best fighter in the world?

Oh and I don't excuse Shane and Bernard's actions, but they did it because how else are they going to get Floyd in the ring with Shane or get Shane any sort of big fight?

Well said

Daxx you have demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a hater. Congrats you brought Bruseles and Corley into the conversation although they were both WBC junior welterweight title eliminators Corley being rated in the top 10 by Ring Magazine at the time was from shot to pieces with 2 losses and 1 draw.

Bruseles sucked but name me a fighter that has no junk on their record from time to time.

at least Rantcatrat did a fair job making his points

[ElTerribleMorales]

[QUOTE=JT Rock;789474]

Well said

Daxx you have demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a hater. Congrats you brought Bruseles and Corley into the conversation although they were both WBC junior welterweight title eliminators Corley being rated in the top 10 by Ring Magazine at the time was from shot to pieces with 2 losses and 1 draw.

Bruseles sucked but name me a fighter that has no junk on their record from time to time.

at least Rantcatrat did a fair job making his points

spoken like a true nutthugger

[JT Rock]

[quote=ElTerribleMorales;789482]

Daxx you have demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a hater. Congrats you brought Bruseles and Corley into the conversation although they were both WBC junior welterweight title eliminators Corley being rated in the top 10 by Ring Magazine at the time was from shot to pieces with 2 losses and 1 draw.

Bruseles sucked but name me a fighter that has no junk on their record from time to time.

at least Rantcatrat did a fair job making his points

spoken like a true nutthugger

[El Kabong]

If Floyd is going to call himself "The Greatest" then he and his fans had best be prepared for Floyd's career to be picked apart and criticized by anybody and everybody. Anybody can SAY they are "The Greatest" but the true greats don't have to say it, they can just say "Look at the resume"....Floyd can't say the latter (for now) and after he beats (if he's able to do that) there will still be fights out there for him and he will HAVE to fight them in order to be considered "The Greatest" by the majority of fans.

Is Floyd skilled as hell? Sure as fuck he is! The only guy I can compare him to (in recent history) is a Prime Roy Jones Jr., that is the guy who could dominate any big name put infront of him with ease....but IMO Roy accomplished more (UNIFICATION at 175) and took more risks with his career than Floyd has with his.

Jose Luis Castillo, Diego Corrales, and Oscar De la Hoya are the biggest risks Floyd has taken. Ricky Hatton would have been a risk had we not seen what he did (or didn't do) vs Collazo...Marquez would have been a risk MAYBE at 135...Baldomir was never a risk, Gatti was on the border, Judah wasn't a risk.

Floyd doesn't have the desire to prove the fans wrong, he only has the desire to make the fans angry and pay to see someone beat him, that is the appeal of Floyd Mayweather right now.

Shane Mosley stepped his game up and fought De la Hoya twice, he fought Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright, he didn't have to but he wanted to prove himself to the fans.

De la Hoya took on Trinidad, Vargas, Hopkins...sure he got a gift vs Sturm but he tried FFS!

Ray Leonard, talk about an asshole, Ray was one cocky motherfucker, but he chased down Duran, Hearns, and Hagler (amongst others) to PROVE he was great it didn't even matter he got beat by Duran or if he got a gift vs Hagler he sought them out to prove himself and by fighting THE BEST he is considered one of the best of all time.

Ray Robinson fought 200 bouts, I don't expect anything like that from Floyd or anyone else, but if you fight 200 times you obviously can't help but fight everyone in and around your weight class...Ray did it and he TOOK CHANCES and sometimes he won and sometimes he lost but he is THE GREATEST.

....Floyd doesn't take risks, he doesn't try and prove himself and he doesn't try and win fans over. If Floyd falls, he's going to fall hard, and the fans will be ready to throw dirt on him as soon as he's down because he has committed one of the worst crimes in boxing...hiding your true skill by not testing yourself, by not taking any chances. Sure it may seem strange that a Klitschko fan has called out someone for not taking chances, but Wlad and Vitali take chances by making the fights, they don't take chances in their strategy and neither does Floyd, I don't ask that he "stand toe to toe" or fight in a manner to put himself at a disadvantage or anything. I think that Floyd has rarely been put under pressure to perform at his best, hopefully one of these days we'll see that. Hopefully some day we'll see someone push Floyd to the breaking point, not so we can see Floyd fail but so we can see who he really is in the ring. Pressure like that can bust pipes or it can create diamonds...no matter what fans may think of Floyd and Floyd's attitude, they all know he's skilled, but they want to see him tested and they want him to prove he's worthy enough to call himself "The Greatest", if he never takes a risk he will never be considered "The Greatest" no matter what he or his fans say about it. Floyd is in the Prime of his career, he may have 3-4 good years left, he can prove a lot in that amount of time, I hope he does, but I doubt he will.