had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

[HattonTheHammer]

Oh for gods sake...

Majesty, I wish I stopped reading too...



P.S. If we're discussing the Kostya fight as well, then we must talk about the legit knockdown that Kostya scored via the perfectly placed body shot to Ricky's stomach. Paris called it a low blow

Kostya should never have come over here but the allure of a big payday was too great I suppose.

fair enough talk away, hatton didnt touch the ground. Even had he of gone down the fight got stopped at the end of the 11th round and hatton won by TKO.

however if we are now scoring decent punches as knockdowns may i refer to the 11th round massacre where ricky pretty much had tszyu flat out on the ropes??

and regardless who the ref was it didn't matter, cause Hatton got KTFO in the 10th against Mayweather, and even worse in the 2nd against Pacquiao, both came from a huge left to the head, end of

Pac beat f*ck out of hatton and rightfully took the win

floyd on the other hand needed the refs assistance

thats all im saying........

[ElTerribleMorales]

fair enough talk away, hatton didnt touch the ground. Even had he of gone down the fight got stopped at the end of the 11th round and hatton won by TKO.

however if we are now scoring decent punches as knockdowns may i refer to the 11th round massacre where ricky pretty much had tszyu flat out on the ropes??

and regardless who the ref was it didn't matter, cause Hatton got KTFO in the 10th against Mayweather, and even worse in the 2nd against Pacquiao, both came from a huge left to the head, end of

Pac beat f*ck out of hatton and rightfully took the win

floyd on the other hand needed the refs assistance

thats all im saying........

not as bad as Hatton need the refs help against Tzyu and the judges help against Collazo

you're full of shit

thats all i'm saying........

[JonnyFolds]

I thought that Hatton-Tsqyu was equally refd. Ricky retaliating that time for the low blow (around the 6th) Tszyu did should have cost him a point.

And it was a very scrappy fight, but what are you gonna do? Let the guys fight. These guys both wanted it bad. It was a great matchup. Both these guys were tough as nails.

Oh yeah, but Hatton-MW. Hatton had his balloon deflated when the ref took the point away from him. I believe he was in the fight, but I don't think he would have been able to maintain that pace and intensity while missing 80% of his punches wide. Hatton shoudl have gotten Floyd Sr as his trainer before that fight. That was the real problem.

[HattonTheHammer]

and regardless who the ref was it didn't matter, cause Hatton got KTFO in the 10th against Mayweather, and even worse in the 2nd against Pacquiao, both came from a huge left to the head, end of

Pac beat f*ck out of hatton and rightfully took the win

floyd on the other hand needed the refs assistance

thats all im saying........

not as bad as Hatton need the refs help against Tzyu and the judges help against Collazo

you're full of shit

thats all i'm saying........

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[Wayne]

I love when guys complain how their fighter was robbed by the very thing that benefitted them so many times before. Hatton could have KICKED Castillo in the balls and been credited with a body punch.

I hope Evander Holyfield takes a career-ending headbutt.

[generalbulldog]

I love when guys complain how their fighter was robbed by the very thing that benefitted them so many times before. Hatton could have KICKED Castillo in the balls and been credited with a body punch.

I hope Evander Holyfield takes a career-ending headbutt.

You know what they say, what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[amat]

Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.

[Gandalf]

Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.

I don't know how anybody could ever think that Joe Cortez did not play a significant role in how events unfolded. In that respect HattontheHammer has made some valid points. Mayweather might not have needed Cortez, but having him at his beck and call certainly helped make a difficult task much easier.

In the wake of the Pac loss, I think we are seeing a case of strong revisionism taking place regarding the career of Hatton. None of it for the positive. A shame really because Hatton has been a very decent fighter. Getting blown out in two was always going to be fuel for the cynics and I think we are seeing that on forums today.

[JazMerkin]

Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.

I don't know how anybody could ever think that Joe Cortez did not play a significant role in how events unfolded. In that respect HattontheHammer has made some valid points. Mayweather might not have needed Cortez, but having him at his beck and call certainly helped make a difficult task much easier.

In the wake of the Pac loss, I think we are seeing a case of strong revisionism taking place regarding the career of Hatton. None of it for the positive. A shame really because Hatton has been a very decent fighter. Getting blown out in two was always going to be fuel for the cynics and I think we are seeing that on forums today.

Miles, no offence mate, but when you made THAT thread about JT, I don't see why he didn't just throw the names Calzaghe, Barrera & Hatton back at you.

Ricky was a very very good fighter. The difference was that Mayweather & Pacquiao are GREAT fighters & that's why the outcome would never have changed if Ricky's mum got to ref both fights with his dad, brother & girlfriend judging. There's no shame in acknowledging his limits.

I personally don't see what Tszyu did that Hatton didn't in terms of 'legacy'. KO'd Zab & then...

[eagle]

Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.

I don't know how anybody could ever think that Joe Cortez did not play a significant role in how events unfolded. In that respect HattontheHammer has made some valid points. Mayweather might not have needed Cortez, but having him at his beck and call certainly helped make a difficult task much easier.

In the wake of the Pac loss, I think we are seeing a case of strong revisionism taking place regarding the career of Hatton. None of it for the positive. A shame really because Hatton has been a very decent fighter. Getting blown out in two was always going to be fuel for the cynics and I think we are seeing that on forums today.

I dont know how anyone could say Cortez was more biased than Dave Parris!
Hatton was a good fighter who flourished in Britain when everything was on his side, but besides the Castillo fight he struggled in every other bout he had after the Tszyu fight. He was a majorly overhyped fighter who was world class but not elite. He beat one top guy in 40 odd fights and that was in a fight where the ref, ring size, crowd etc etc etc was all in his favour.
Cynics tend to go after people who are overhyped and Hatton was massively overhyped and overpaid for his ability.

[Gandalf]

Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.

I don't know how anybody could ever think that Joe Cortez did not play a significant role in how events unfolded. In that respect HattontheHammer has made some valid points. Mayweather might not have needed Cortez, but having him at his beck and call certainly helped make a difficult task much easier.

In the wake of the Pac loss, I think we are seeing a case of strong revisionism taking place regarding the career of Hatton. None of it for the positive. A shame really because Hatton has been a very decent fighter. Getting blown out in two was always going to be fuel for the cynics and I think we are seeing that on forums today.

I dont know how anyone could say Cortez was more biased than Dave Parris!
Hatton was a good fighter who flourished in Britain when everything was on his side, but besides the Castillo fight he struggled in every other bout he had after the Tszyu fight. He was a majorly overhyped fighter who was world class but not elite. He beat one top guy in 40 odd fights and that was in a fight where the ref, ring size, crowd etc etc etc was all in his favour.
Cynics tend to go after people who are overhyped and Hatton was massively overhyped and overpaid for his ability.

I think they were both extremely questionable performances, but I'm not interested in trying to debate which one was worse.

Hatton was a very good fighter. In fact skillwise I think he regressed against Kostya and failed to show that versatility he had shown prior in subsequent fights. Hattons tactics became somewhat stale and I don't think his levels of fitness were quite the same again. Even then he still beat Collazo, Urango, Malignaggi and stopped Castillo. He actually displayed some lovely skills for half a fight against Urango but got weary and went back to holding. Even when ugly Hatton has the ability to just grind things out. And to be fair Hatton was even in the Mayweather fight up until half way when he lost the plot somewhat.

Hatton won a few trinkets and lost a couple of the big ones. No biggie. He did a lot better than most.

[skel1983]

Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.

I don't know how anybody could ever think that Joe Cortez did not play a significant role in how events unfolded. In that respect HattontheHammer has made some valid points. Mayweather might not have needed Cortez, but having him at his beck and call certainly helped make a difficult task much easier.

In the wake of the Pac loss, I think we are seeing a case of strong revisionism taking place regarding the career of Hatton. None of it for the positive. A shame really because Hatton has been a very decent fighter. Getting blown out in two was always going to be fuel for the cynics and I think we are seeing that on forums today.

I dont know how anyone could say Cortez was more biased than Dave Parris!
Hatton was a good fighter who flourished in Britain when everything was on his side, but besides the Castillo fight he struggled in every other bout he had after the Tszyu fight. He was a majorly overhyped fighter who was world class but not elite. He beat one top guy in 40 odd fights and that was in a fight where the ref, ring size, crowd etc etc etc was all in his favour.
Cynics tend to go after people who are overhyped and Hatton was massively overhyped and overpaid for his ability.

Dont agree with that, Hatton was a good fighter, who became very one dimensional, he struggled with every fight after KT?? I dont think he struggled with Mallinaggi and Uranga, he gassed against Uranga but struggled?? No way, Hatton was a great fighter he just had his limitations against certain fighters Speed, southpaws and very technical fighters.

He was protected a bit to much in Manchester I agree with that, but he gets a bit to much stick these days. He wasnt elite but how many boxers are

Also please people saying Collazo was robbed go watch the fucking fight again, I think people just take into account Hatton was out on his feet in the twelve, imo he clearly won that fight.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.

I don't know how anybody could ever think that Joe Cortez did not play a significant role in how events unfolded. In that respect HattontheHammer has made some valid points. Mayweather might not have needed Cortez, but having him at his beck and call certainly helped make a difficult task much easier.

In the wake of the Pac loss, I think we are seeing a case of strong revisionism taking place regarding the career of Hatton. None of it for the positive. A shame really because Hatton has been a very decent fighter. Getting blown out in two was always going to be fuel for the cynics and I think we are seeing that on forums today.

IMO it could have been, Bayless, Weeks, or even Mills Lane in ther, and it wouldn't of changed the outcome, Hatton had no answer for Mayweather's slippery style and the biggest farce in this thread is saying that Hatton actually hurt Floyd, IMO Mayweather beats him 10/10, and it's no insult to Hatton, Mayweather is just that good

[skel1983]

Hatton loaded up with the left when his head wasn't being pulled, he wasn't even touched that was intentional. You're just consistently wrong on every point youve made this thread. Someone should go back and highlight everything you said thats just wrong, it would be almost all of it. And Mayweather didn't need Joe Cortez to help him beat him if you believe that then you're probably smoking crack.

I don't know how anybody could ever think that Joe Cortez did not play a significant role in how events unfolded. In that respect HattontheHammer has made some valid points. Mayweather might not have needed Cortez, but having him at his beck and call certainly helped make a difficult task much easier.

In the wake of the Pac loss, I think we are seeing a case of strong revisionism taking place regarding the career of Hatton. None of it for the positive. A shame really because Hatton has been a very decent fighter. Getting blown out in two was always going to be fuel for the cynics and I think we are seeing that on forums today.

IMO it could have been, Bayless, Weeks, or even Mills Lane in ther, and it wouldn't of changed the outcome, Hatton had no answer for Mayweather's slippery style and the biggest farce in this thread is saying that Hatton actually hurt Floyd, IMO Mayweather beats him 10/10, and it's no insult to Hatton, Mayweather is just that good

Mayweather would beat a prime Hatton worst in a rematch, Floyd even said he was suprised at Hatton and said he can see why he is called hitman he is one game mother fucker, but as soon as Floyd worked him out he just took him to school, people can say the turning point was the point deduction but I think it was more the fact floyd felt him out and knew exactly what Hatton brings and exploited that.

[skel1983]

But Cortez was a disgrace I was thinking that last week when he reffed the John/Juarez fight and the amount of in fighting and leaning in that fight compared to the Hatton was a stark contrast.