After seeing Mayweather Marquez PPV Sales

[Cortez The Killer]

Mayweather has shown that he is a PPV attraction by the #s his last fight put up. However in my opinion this does not mean he is necessarily a bigger draw than Manny. I think that Mayweather sparked the public's interest and Manny and Miguel will set it off sort of. I'll go out on a limb and say that Pac Cotto does 1.3 M

How do you predict Pac - Cotto sales go?

Mayweather is the cash cow of the sport now. Against a Mexican fighter that is virtually unknown to the general public he manages 1 million PPV buys and in a recession. Can't say he's not the draw anymore.

Whereas Hatton-Pacquiao was marketed even bigger and seems to be the bigger fight but only managed 825,000 ppv buys.

I'd be surprised if Cotto-Pacquiao does 1 million. It's going to be seen by the general American public as 2 foreigners fighting. America don't like foreigners, unless 1 of their own is beating the shit out of the other foreigner.

Way too speak for all of America

Most "Americans" I know wanted Hatton to beat Mayweather and wanted Marquez to beat Mayweather.


I think you underestimate how a lot of people tend to get behind the perceived underdog/humble fighter. Which in 24/7's case, and 24/7 does seem to be the X-factor in marketing BIG PPV's sales, the humble and/or underdog fighter always seems to not be an American.

I think a lot of people bought that fight to see if Marquez could pull an upset against Floyd, not to see an "American beat the crap out of a foreigner"

[Cortez The Killer]

Also, unless HBO publishes to PPV numbers as part of an official annual report or something I'm not going to believe any number I hear. Way too much money and politics behind it to believe talk.

As far as I know it's perfectly legal to lie about the amount of PPV sales something did to the public.

[generalbulldog]

Mayweather has shown that he is a PPV attraction by the #s his last fight put up. However in my opinion this does not mean he is necessarily a bigger draw than Manny. I think that Mayweather sparked the public's interest and Manny and Miguel will set it off sort of. I'll go out on a limb and say that Pac Cotto does 1.3 M

How do you predict Pac - Cotto sales go?

Mayweather is the cash cow of the sport now. Against a Mexican fighter that is virtually unknown to the general public he manages 1 million PPV buys and in a recession. Can't say he's not the draw anymore.

Whereas Hatton-Pacquiao was marketed even bigger and seems to be the bigger fight but only managed 825,000 ppv buys.

I'd be surprised if Cotto-Pacquiao does 1 million. It's going to be seen by the general American public as 2 foreigners fighting. America don't like foreigners, unless 1 of their own is beating the shit out of the other foreigner.

Way too speak for all of America

Most "Americans" I know wanted Hatton to beat Mayweather and wanted Marquez to beat Mayweather.


I think you underestimate how a lot of people tend to get behind the perceived underdog/humble fighter. Which in 24/7's case, and 24/7 does seem to be the X-factor in marketing BIG PPV's sales, the humble and/or underdog fighter always seems to not be an American.

I think a lot of people bought that fight to see if Marquez could pull an upset against Floyd, not to see an "American beat the crap out of a foreigner"

We have different perceptions then, most Americans I know were rooting for Floyd to ko Hatton, because as someone pointed out Floyd appeals to the younger fans, especially to the hip hop generation. And many people bought the Floyd-Marquez fight was to see him back in action and return to the ring as the true p4p king (I'm not saying Pacman didn't earn his #1 p4p status).

Most Americans, don't know who Pacquiao or Cotto is. They can't even pronounce their names. They are seen as 2 foreigners, even though Puerto Ricans have American citizenship by birthright. And Pacquiao is seen as an oddity in boxing (by the American general public), sort of an Yao Ming type.

[jahmez]

I'm from Australia and I'd have to agree. When I first got into boxing I checked out Pacquiao fights because I'm half Filipino and Jim Lampley would always be talking about how much of an international superstar Manny is and I remember thinking how come I've never heard of him before. I'm a massive Pacquiao fan but I think his worldwide recognition is grossly overestimated because of his cult status in the Philippines. The sad thing is I'd never heard of Mayweather as well. The only thing you hear about here is rugby fucking league. Man I never knew that Peurto Ricans had a birthright to American citizenship. You learn something new everyday

[Youngblood]

I'm from Australia and I'd have to agree. When I first got into boxing I checked out Pacquiao fights because I'm half Filipino and Jim Lampley would always be talking about how much of an international superstar Manny is and I remember thinking how come I've never heard of him before. I'm a massive Pacquiao fan but I think his worldwide recognition is grossly overestimated because of his cult status in the Philippines. The sad thing is I'd never heard of Mayweather as well. The only thing you hear about here is rugby fucking league. Man I never knew that Peurto Ricans had a birthright to American citizenship. You learn something new everyday

Jahmez, I had been boxing for nearly 2 years and had fights under my belt in two countries already before I started to learn a bit about professional boxing. Before I signed up to Saddos and started hearing about this Pacquiao fellow, Mayweather, Marquez, etc. All I knew was Ali was the man, but a lil punch drunk these days. RJJ was slick. That was it!

It was was kinda cool asa new boxer to be like this. I mean, it made it so much more exciting to learn the sport in both training and history. I kinda like you Jahmez (in a totally non gay way lol) and hope you stick around Saddos and the trainin section. You got a really good attitude for boxing me thinks.

[jahmez]

Thanks man. I think this forum is the best on the net. I played soccer when I was younger and I think I could of gone so much further if there was just a place I could find reliable information. This forum is it for boxing. Yeh man it was awesome when I first got into boxing. Just seeing the completely unique styles of all the great modern fighters for the first time kept me on youtube for hours at a time. Chris Nagel gave me some advice a while back and suggested I checked out the old fighters. Now I sit back in awe watching Willie Pep.

[Nameless]

I was the first one to diss Floyd on the PPv thing and the first one to say he wouldn't much higher than 500k of PPV and I admit I was wrong and surprised (still surprised a bit). I was wrong on that one, plain and simple, Floyd's an ass overall but he still drag a good crowd and foster interest into the sport, which can only be good for everybody involved into boxing.

[luvfightgame]

I think this proves that the 24/7 series of marketing and all the other marketing stops worked. PBF isn't the cash cow.

DeWalt was a sponsor and there were posters in every Home Depot, Lowes, etc.

GBP had some mexican beer company giving rebates and coupons for the exact value of the fight so you could basically see it for free if you ordered it and bought enough beer.

Mayweather's name is very recognizable now, but his fan base isn't real high. He's well known like O.J. every body wants to see him get smashed.

Mayweather has benefitted greatly from the new marketing tactics more than people wanting to see him. Imagine if Hagler Hearns, SRL Hearns, etc were ppv's and had 24/7 marketing them?