had mayweather-hatton had NOT of been reffed by cortez.....

[Gandalf]

the mere fact that 2 years on this debate is still managing endless amounts of posts pretty much vindicates my reason for bringing this up..............again

cortez robbed ricky of a fair fight

But almost all the people participating in this thread debating about Hatton's career, his abilities etc., not whether or not Cortez robbed him of a fair fight. Most people feel that the ref made almost no difference in the outcome of the fight.

He lost to Collazo too

Saying Cortez made almost no difference is too strong for me. He wouldn't let the fighters in close for more than a second in much of the fight and he took off a point at a crucial juncture in the fight. Hatton was still in that fight up until the point deduction. Hatton showing his arse to Mayweather was a man who had lost his cool.

I don't think Hatton lost to Collazo either, but then we all interpret fights in different ways.

[Violent Demise]

the mere fact that 2 years on this debate is still managing endless amounts of posts pretty much vindicates my reason for bringing this up..............again

cortez robbed ricky of a fair fight

But almost all the people participating in this thread debating about Hatton's career, his abilities etc., not whether or not Cortez robbed him of a fair fight. Most people feel that the ref made almost no difference in the outcome of the fight.

He lost to Collazo too

Saying Cortez made almost no difference is too strong for me. He wouldn't let the fighters in close for more than a second in much of the fight and he took off a point at a crucial juncture in the fight. Hatton was still in that fight up until the point deduction. Hatton showing his arse to Mayweather was a man who had lost his cool.

I don't think Hatton lost to Collazo either, but then we all interpret fights in different ways.

That ain't nobody's fault but Hatton. Many fighters have lost a point in a crucial part of a fight and didn't lose there cool.

[ElTerribleMorales]

But almost all the people participating in this thread debating about Hatton's career, his abilities etc., not whether or not Cortez robbed him of a fair fight. Most people feel that the ref made almost no difference in the outcome of the fight.

He lost to Collazo too

Saying Cortez made almost no difference is too strong for me. He wouldn't let the fighters in close for more than a second in much of the fight and he took off a point at a crucial juncture in the fight. Hatton was still in that fight up until the point deduction. Hatton showing his arse to Mayweather was a man who had lost his cool.

I don't think Hatton lost to Collazo either, but then we all interpret fights in different ways.

That ain't nobody's fault but Hatton. Many fighters have lost a point in a crucial part of a fight and didn't lose there cool.

Trinidad/Vargas is a pretty clear cut example

[Gandalf]

But almost all the people participating in this thread debating about Hatton's career, his abilities etc., not whether or not Cortez robbed him of a fair fight. Most people feel that the ref made almost no difference in the outcome of the fight.

He lost to Collazo too

Saying Cortez made almost no difference is too strong for me. He wouldn't let the fighters in close for more than a second in much of the fight and he took off a point at a crucial juncture in the fight. Hatton was still in that fight up until the point deduction. Hatton showing his arse to Mayweather was a man who had lost his cool.

I don't think Hatton lost to Collazo either, but then we all interpret fights in different ways.

That ain't nobody's fault but Hatton. Many fighters have lost a point in a crucial part of a fight and didn't lose there cool.

That's true. There is no excuse for getting all hot headed and losing it in the biggest fight of your life.

[Snakey]

I will just have to say karma is a bitch. I was the first one on this forum to stand up and say FUCK YOU DAVE PARRIS!!! He was alot worse then cortez. Grappling is illegal in boxing, if you wanna watch it go watch UFC. Dave Parris allowed ricky to wrestle and rough tszyu up, cortez however didnt...so hows that unfair? Just coz ricky relied on using illegal tactics to win and a ref for some reason didnt allow something illegal to happen is getting crucified for it lol Its not cortezs fault, its hattons for not realising he couldnt bring that shit to the US and win. It may be allowed in little fights in britain but not on the big stage and he got fucked up for it.

And for anyone saying he hurt mayweather, watch it again. Mayweather is off balance in the first round when ricky lands a jab and IMO mayweather never looked in trouble. How could anyone think that hatton was going well when he was eating lead right hands and leaping left hooks all night. Did cortez make hatton leap into a big left hook? Are you trying to say ricky wouldnt of tried a leaping left hook, is that not part of rickys usual style? Because if its not then why did freddy roach have that picked already for pac to duck and counter with the left? Face it, ricky had massive flaws and better boxers knew that.

[Majesty]

I will just have to say karma is a bitch. I was the first one on this forum to stand up and say FUCK YOU DAVE PARRIS!!! He was alot worse then cortez. Grappling is illegal in boxing, if you wanna watch it go watch UFC. Dave Parris allowed ricky to wrestle and rough tszyu up, cortez however didnt...so hows that unfair? Just coz ricky relied on using illegal tactics to win and a ref for some reason didnt allow something illegal to happen is getting crucified for it lol Its not cortezs fault, its hattons for not realising he couldnt bring that shit to the US and win. It may be allowed in little fights in britain but not on the big stage and he got fucked up for it.

And for anyone saying he hurt mayweather, watch it again. Mayweather is off balance in the first round when ricky lands a jab and IMO mayweather never looked in trouble. How could anyone think that hatton was going well when he was eating lead right hands and leaping left hooks all night. Did cortez make hatton leap into a big left hook? Are you trying to say ricky wouldnt of tried a leaping left hook, is that not part of rickys usual style? Because if its not then why did freddy roach have that picked already for pac to duck and counter with the left? Face it, ricky had massive flaws and better boxers knew that.

Dave Parris? Wasn't he the ref that when Tszyu hit Hatton barely low with a shot, not even that hard and then Ricky came back after they were seperated and hit him with a haymaker of a low blow did nothing?

[JazMerkin]

Dave Parris? Wasn't he the ref that when Tszyu hit Hatton barely low with a shot, not even that hard and then Ricky came back after they were seperated and hit him with a haymaker of a low blow did nothing?

You're obviously not completely familiar with his work. Yes, the Hatton-Tszyu show was his greatest international success, & how we all look back on it as the shambles it was. Ol' Mr Magoo Parris just seemed to look away every time that cheeky scamp Ricky Hatton broke the rules, only to catch the loveable oaf Kostya doing... erm... well... not much.

But to those of you wondering 'where can I saw more of this great comedic genius' work?', I direct you to Mr Parris' handling of this year's Khan-Barrera fight. Oh how we laughed at how he didn't stop the fight till just after it would guarantee Khan the victory. It's so crazy how Dave's 'wacky' decisions always seem to help out that dastardly devil Frank Warren.

But, don't you worry he's still been keeping us in the UK amused with his handling of the Rogan-Sexton fight. For those unaware, Rogan was battering Sexton into submission so Sexton spat his gumshield out. Rogan chose to stop so 'Old Mr Parris' could put the mouthpiece back in, at which point Sexton punched Rogan weakly. But Dave wasn't going to be upstaged by some plucky upstart, & topped that bit of excellence, by takin Rogan to the doctor & stopping the fight & giving Sexton a TKO in a fight he was about to get KO'd in.

Those who've admired his work with all of Frank Wanker's Warren's fighters would do well to also check out his handling of the Jamie Moore DQ against Michael Jones a few years back. Proof he is the one man Laurel & Hardy of our times... mainly Hardy.

[skel1983]

Dave Parris? Wasn't he the ref that when Tszyu hit Hatton barely low with a shot, not even that hard and then Ricky came back after they were seperated and hit him with a haymaker of a low blow did nothing?

You're obviously not completely familiar with his work. Yes, the Hatton-Tszyu show was his greatest international success, & how we all look back on it as the shambles it was. Ol' Mr Magoo Parris just seemed to look away every time that cheeky scamp Ricky Hatton broke the rules, only to catch the loveable oaf Kostya doing... erm... well... not much.

But to those of you wondering 'where can I saw more of this great comedic genius' work?', I direct you to Mr Parris' handling of this year's Khan-Barrera fight. Oh how we laughed at how he didn't stop the fight till just after it would guarantee Khan the victory. It's so crazy how Dave's 'wacky' decisions always seem to help out that dastardly devil Frank Warren.

But, don't you worry he's still been keeping us in the UK amused with his handling of the Rogan-Sexton fight. For those unaware, Rogan was battering Sexton into submission so Sexton spat his gumshield out. Rogan chose to stop so 'Old Mr Parris' could put the mouthpiece back in, at which point Sexton punched Rogan weakly. But Dave wasn't going to be upstaged by some plucky upstart, & topped that bit of excellence, by takin Rogan to the doctor & stopping the fight & giving Sexton a TKO in a fight he was about to get KO'd in.

Those who've admired his work with all of Frank Wanker's Warren's fighters would do well to also check out his handling of the Jamie Moore DQ against Michael Jones a few years back. Proof he is the one man Laurel & Hardy of our times... mainly Hardy.

Hhahahaha didnt realise it was good old dave refed the Moore Jones fight that was a shocker.

[Snakey]

I will just have to say karma is a bitch. I was the first one on this forum to stand up and say FUCK YOU DAVE PARRIS!!! He was alot worse then cortez. Grappling is illegal in boxing, if you wanna watch it go watch UFC. Dave Parris allowed ricky to wrestle and rough tszyu up, cortez however didnt...so hows that unfair? Just coz ricky relied on using illegal tactics to win and a ref for some reason didnt allow something illegal to happen is getting crucified for it lol Its not cortezs fault, its hattons for not realising he couldnt bring that shit to the US and win. It may be allowed in little fights in britain but not on the big stage and he got fucked up for it.

And for anyone saying he hurt mayweather, watch it again. Mayweather is off balance in the first round when ricky lands a jab and IMO mayweather never looked in trouble. How could anyone think that hatton was going well when he was eating lead right hands and leaping left hooks all night. Did cortez make hatton leap into a big left hook? Are you trying to say ricky wouldnt of tried a leaping left hook, is that not part of rickys usual style? Because if its not then why did freddy roach have that picked already for pac to duck and counter with the left? Face it, ricky had massive flaws and better boxers knew that.

Dave Parris? Wasn't he the ref that when Tszyu hit Hatton barely low with a shot, not even that hard and then Ricky came back after they were seperated and hit him with a haymaker of a low blow did nothing?

Yeah, tszyus shots were on the belt and ricky put on an acting masterclass and then came back then smashed kostya in the balls with no penalty. Also there was the knockdown that kostya scored which was deemed a low blow but you could tell by the look in rickys eyes that he knew he had just been knocked down. It was appauling, i gave kostya great credit for his speech after that fight because he didnt complain once about the ref unlike ricky with cortez.

[skel1983]

I will just have to say karma is a bitch. I was the first one on this forum to stand up and say FUCK YOU DAVE PARRIS!!! He was alot worse then cortez. Grappling is illegal in boxing, if you wanna watch it go watch UFC. Dave Parris allowed ricky to wrestle and rough tszyu up, cortez however didnt...so hows that unfair? Just coz ricky relied on using illegal tactics to win and a ref for some reason didnt allow something illegal to happen is getting crucified for it lol Its not cortezs fault, its hattons for not realising he couldnt bring that shit to the US and win. It may be allowed in little fights in britain but not on the big stage and he got fucked up for it.

And for anyone saying he hurt mayweather, watch it again. Mayweather is off balance in the first round when ricky lands a jab and IMO mayweather never looked in trouble. How could anyone think that hatton was going well when he was eating lead right hands and leaping left hooks all night. Did cortez make hatton leap into a big left hook? Are you trying to say ricky wouldnt of tried a leaping left hook, is that not part of rickys usual style? Because if its not then why did freddy roach have that picked already for pac to duck and counter with the left? Face it, ricky had massive flaws and better boxers knew that.

Dave Parris? Wasn't he the ref that when Tszyu hit Hatton barely low with a shot, not even that hard and then Ricky came back after they were seperated and hit him with a haymaker of a low blow did nothing?

Yeah, tszyus shots were on the belt and ricky put on an acting masterclass and then came back then smashed kostya in the balls with no penalty. Also there was the knockdown that kostya scored which was deemed a low blow but you could tell by the look in rickys eyes that he knew he had just been knocked down. It was appauling, i gave kostya great credit for his speech after that fight because he didnt complain once about the ref unlike ricky with cortez.

Snakey you sound worst than the Hatton nuthuggers, KT shot that floored Hatton wasnt a low blow?? WTF?? you for real?

2.20-2.25 of this video proves it was a low blow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XX695yh9FU