MAyweather 4th all time in PPV sales

[Nameless]

Well, I am surprised. I don't quite get why that many people would splash out to watch a WW take on LW. I'm surprised more didn't cancel their subscription after the weigh in debacle too. It's not a good sign that people will watch in their droves to see Mayweather fight a hand picked opponent. We might never see the last of this type of behaviour.

Man, you are so bitter recently - The fact that he is now the 4th biggest draw ever is good for boxing right now. I don't see any other stars at the moment, do you?

I was the first one to shake my head when I heard that he weighed in 4lbs more than Marquez but you're actually saying people SHOULDN'T have tuned in and that "it's not a good sign"??

Listen to yourself! A lot of these buyers were probably casual fans so how the hell is it not a good sign that we are bringing more casual fans to the sport of boxing??

More fans to boxing = "not a good sign"?...ok then

Well, Manny Pacquiao brings more audience on the table than Mayweather and he's way more spectacular if it can answer your question.

[JazMerkin]

Well, I am surprised. I don't quite get why that many people would splash out to watch a WW take on LW. I'm surprised more didn't cancel their subscription after the weigh in debacle too. It's not a good sign that people will watch in their droves to see Mayweather fight a hand picked opponent. We might never see the last of this type of behaviour.

Man, you are so bitter recently - The fact that he is now the 4th biggest draw ever is good for boxing right now. I don't see any other stars at the moment, do you?

I was the first one to shake my head when I heard that he weighed in 4lbs more than Marquez but you're actually saying people SHOULDN'T have tuned in and that "it's not a good sign"??

Listen to yourself! A lot of these buyers were probably casual fans so how the hell is it not a good sign that we are bringing more casual fans to the sport of boxing??

More fans to boxing = "not a good sign"?...ok then

Well, Manny Pacquiao brings more audience on the table than Mayweather and he's way more spectacular if it can answer your question.

I cannot see how in any way that answers his question . As long as BOTH Pacquiao & Mayweather bring new fans for boxing it cannot be a bad thing.

I think one mass assumption that people make is that 'casual' fans want to see people getting KO'd which isn't necessarily the case. All but 2 of the 12 people who came to mine last week to watch the fight were the definition of casual fans, some of who had never seen the fight. ALL of them came away excited by it, mainly Mayweather's skill & athletic ability (& with the women, mainly Mayweather).

[Youngblood]

I kinda agree with Althugs. Anyone who is wishing , hoping, suggesting less fans show up is pretty negative and should ask themselves why that is. Dont let your dislike for one fighter overtake your love for the sport. It kinda makes me sad to hear anyone say that on this board. It is negative and simply hating. Like the person or not, harping on what is good news for boxing is just, meh, sad..

[Nameless]

Man, you are so bitter recently - The fact that he is now the 4th biggest draw ever is good for boxing right now. I don't see any other stars at the moment, do you?

I was the first one to shake my head when I heard that he weighed in 4lbs more than Marquez but you're actually saying people SHOULDN'T have tuned in and that "it's not a good sign"??

Listen to yourself! A lot of these buyers were probably casual fans so how the hell is it not a good sign that we are bringing more casual fans to the sport of boxing??

More fans to boxing = "not a good sign"?...ok then

Well, Manny Pacquiao brings more audience on the table than Mayweather and he's way more spectacular if it can answer your question.

I cannot see how in any way that answers his question . As long as BOTH Pacquiao & Mayweather bring new fans for boxing it cannot be a bad thing.

I think one mass assumption that people make is that 'casual' fans want to see people getting KO'd which isn't necessarily the case. All but 2 of the 12 people who came to mine last week to watch the fight were the definition of casual fans, some of who had never seen the fight. ALL of them came away excited by it, mainly Mayweather's skill & athletic ability (& with the women, mainly Mayweather).

I am not dissing Mayweather (though my dislike for him is quite notorious, I gotta admit), I was simply answering the part where he says that he doesn't see any other boxing star at the moment dragging such a big crowd. Sure, it is good for boxing, if even the boxer I strongly dislikes can drag new amateurs it is damn good, new blood to share the love of the sport with and new people to disagree and agree with, I just found that he was going a bit far saying that no other stars at the moment can bring such big ppv on the table, that is all. Thus said, sorry if my post was confusing or something, my sole intention was to underline that Floyd wasn't the biggest drag in at the gate at the moment.

[JazMerkin]

Well, Manny Pacquiao brings more audience on the table than Mayweather and he's way more spectacular if it can answer your question.

I cannot see how in any way that answers his question . As long as BOTH Pacquiao & Mayweather bring new fans for boxing it cannot be a bad thing.

I think one mass assumption that people make is that 'casual' fans want to see people getting KO'd which isn't necessarily the case. All but 2 of the 12 people who came to mine last week to watch the fight were the definition of casual fans, some of who had never seen the fight. ALL of them came away excited by it, mainly Mayweather's skill & athletic ability (& with the women, mainly Mayweather).

I am not dissing Mayweather (though my dislike for him is quite notorious, I gotta admit), I was simply answering the part where he says that he doesn't see any other boxing star at the moment dragging such a big crowd. Sure, it is good for boxing, if even the boxer I strongly dislikes can drag new amateurs it is damn good, new blood to share the love of the sport with and new people to disagree and agree with, I just found that he was going a bit far saying that no other stars at the moment can bring such big ppv on the table, that is all. Thus said, sorry if my post was confusing or something, my sole intention was to underline that Floyd wasn't the biggest drag in at the gate at the moment.

I agree with that apart from the last sentence. I do think right now he is the biggest star in terms of bringing 'casual' fans in, although the Pacquiao/Cotto fight will tell us a lot about how close he & Pac are in terms of doing that. I would certainly say Pac has a bigger hardcore fanbase, but I think their respective numbers against the same opponents show Floyd is the bigger 'draw'. I do think they are the only 2 currently transcending the sport in any way, although Cotto is not far off & I suspect he does the same should he beat Manny.

[luvfightgame]

PBF owes much of his PPV numbers to GBP insane marketing of this fight, and to HBO 24/7. And to his cracked out family.

He's as popular as O.J. Simpson, and about as well liked.

[JazMerkin]

PBF owes much of his PPV numbers to GBP insane marketing of this fight, and to HBO 24/7. And to his cracked out family.

He's as popular as O.J. Simpson, and about as well liked.

Let's ignore you choosing to compare a boxer to a man widely suspected of murder. Let's focus on you inability to differentiate between 'popular' and 'well liked'. (I'll give you a clue they mean the same thing)

[Oggie]

I think Mayweather pulled off a marketing masterstroke with his appearances on 'Dancing with the Stars' and WWE programming. He put himself in the mainstream view and opened doors to new fans... in fact, I'm pretty sure that a lot of WWE fans shelled out cash to see his return to boxing, solely because he generated interest from them with his appearances there last year.

I think he has played the retirement ploy perfectly. He always knew he would come back, so did some of us, but the general Joe on the street bought it hook, line & sinker. I'm willing to bet that Mayweather would not have made nearly as much money from fighting Marquez straight after he beat Hatton, compared to fighting him now. What builds interest more than the return of a star? An unbeaten star at that... an unbeaten star that appeared on two very, very widely watched mainstream shows in America. The man knows how to play the game, in and out of the ring.

Floyd has increased his notoriety massively with his mainstream appearances, and all the while he was building anticipation with the speculation of his possible return. Just because someone is not a fan-favourite, does not mean they will not sell well (Many people seem to fail to grasp this point!). Fans enjoy enemies, Floyd knows this, we all do. You are just as likely to cheer for the loss of someone that you hate, as you are for the victory of someone that you adore. Mayweather always slotted into the bad-guy role, made himself appear like a prick, and the majority of people bought it all along, lining his pockets with just as much dough as fighters that are generally worshipped as Gods.

Floyd has his fans too of course, usually those that appreciate the sweet science at its most fluid and see passed his bad-boy antics (or maybe even appreciate them!) I have always enjoyed Floyd and how well he can rile people up, and of course once he steps foot in the ring it is like poetry in motion most of the time. A phenomenal talent, for real.

Good on him for being successful, in more ways than one.
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[luvfightgame]

PBF owes much of his PPV numbers to GBP insane marketing of this fight, and to HBO 24/7. And to his cracked out family.

He's as popular as O.J. Simpson, and about as well liked.

Let's ignore you choosing to compare a boxer to a man widely suspected of murder. Let's focus on you inability to differentiate between 'popular' and 'well liked'. (I'll give you a clue they mean the same thing)

I meant famous, instead of popular. Good catch.

[Nameless]

I cannot see how in any way that answers his question . As long as BOTH Pacquiao & Mayweather bring new fans for boxing it cannot be a bad thing.

I think one mass assumption that people make is that 'casual' fans want to see people getting KO'd which isn't necessarily the case. All but 2 of the 12 people who came to mine last week to watch the fight were the definition of casual fans, some of who had never seen the fight. ALL of them came away excited by it, mainly Mayweather's skill & athletic ability (& with the women, mainly Mayweather).

I am not dissing Mayweather (though my dislike for him is quite notorious, I gotta admit), I was simply answering the part where he says that he doesn't see any other boxing star at the moment dragging such a big crowd. Sure, it is good for boxing, if even the boxer I strongly dislikes can drag new amateurs it is damn good, new blood to share the love of the sport with and new people to disagree and agree with, I just found that he was going a bit far saying that no other stars at the moment can bring such big ppv on the table, that is all. Thus said, sorry if my post was confusing or something, my sole intention was to underline that Floyd wasn't the biggest drag in at the gate at the moment.

I agree with that apart from the last sentence. I do think right now he is the biggest star in terms of bringing 'casual' fans in, although the Pacquiao/Cotto fight will tell us a lot about how close he & Pac are in terms of doing that. I would certainly say Pac has a bigger hardcore fanbase, but I think their respective numbers against the same opponents show Floyd is the bigger 'draw'. I do think they are the only 2 currently transcending the sport in any way, although Cotto is not far off & I suspect he does the same should he beat Manny.

I am not sure Jaz, I think that Pacman has the hand over as well on the casual fan because of the excitement he smears all around, as it as been quoted below, I think that Floyd got a bit more excitement and used to sell a bit more because of the 24/7 and because of the way he got into rangeview with the WWE, Dancing with the stars etc. I still agree and am willing to admit that he drags more than what I wanted to say or think but still not enough to be compared to the Pacman in term of rentability and popularity. Not yet.

[piye]

I am not dissing Mayweather (though my dislike for him is quite notorious, I gotta admit), I was simply answering the part where he says that he doesn't see any other boxing star at the moment dragging such a big crowd. Sure, it is good for boxing, if even the boxer I strongly dislikes can drag new amateurs it is damn good, new blood to share the love of the sport with and new people to disagree and agree with, I just found that he was going a bit far saying that no other stars at the moment can bring such big ppv on the table, that is all. Thus said, sorry if my post was confusing or something, my sole intention was to underline that Floyd wasn't the biggest drag in at the gate at the moment.

I agree with that apart from the last sentence. I do think right now he is the biggest star in terms of bringing 'casual' fans in, although the Pacquiao/Cotto fight will tell us a lot about how close he & Pac are in terms of doing that. I would certainly say Pac has a bigger hardcore fanbase, but I think their respective numbers against the same opponents show Floyd is the bigger 'draw'. I do think they are the only 2 currently transcending the sport in any way, although Cotto is not far off & I suspect he does the same should he beat Manny.

I am not sure Jaz, I think that Pacman has the hand over as well on the casual fan because of the excitement he smears all around, as it as been quoted below, I think that Floyd got a bit more excitement and used to sell a bit more because of the 24/7 and because of the way he got into rangeview with the WWE, Dancing with the stars etc. I still agree and am willing to admit that he drags more than what I wanted to say or think but still not enough to be compared to the Pacman in term of rentability and popularity. Not yet.

Your talking about your personal opinion and not the facts! Pacman is not in the top 10 all time PPV attractions despite the fact that every boxing fan knows he is more exciting than Floyd. (Not a better fighter) Floyd is 4th on that list, fourth! that means that he has to be considered the biggest PPV fighter out at the moment. in my opinion Pacmans next fight will do huge numbers close to or over a million aswell but the fact with that is Cotto is a huge draw and so is pac. when Floyd fought Marquez he was the huge draw Marquez is no huge draw!! Mayweather can do a million now fighting anybody! he is a huge draw.

[piye]

Boxing's Top Pay Per View Attractions

1. Oscar De La Hoya - $610.6 million on 12.6 million buys (18 events)
2. Mike Tyson - $545 million on 12.4 million buys (12 events)
3. Evander Holyfield - $543 million on 12.6 million buys (14 events)
4. Floyd Mayweather $355 Million Dollars on 7.15 Million Buys (6 events)

##(pre 9/19/09)
Floyd Mayweather $303 Million Dollars on 6.15 Million Buys (5 events)

(post 9/19/2009)
Floyd Mayweather $355 Million Dollars on 7.15 Million Buys (6 events)

[generalbulldog]

I agree with that apart from the last sentence. I do think right now he is the biggest star in terms of bringing 'casual' fans in, although the Pacquiao/Cotto fight will tell us a lot about how close he & Pac are in terms of doing that. I would certainly say Pac has a bigger hardcore fanbase, but I think their respective numbers against the same opponents show Floyd is the bigger 'draw'. I do think they are the only 2 currently transcending the sport in any way, although Cotto is not far off & I suspect he does the same should he beat Manny.

I am not sure Jaz, I think that Pacman has the hand over as well on the casual fan because of the excitement he smears all around, as it as been quoted below, I think that Floyd got a bit more excitement and used to sell a bit more because of the 24/7 and because of the way he got into rangeview with the WWE, Dancing with the stars etc. I still agree and am willing to admit that he drags more than what I wanted to say or think but still not enough to be compared to the Pacman in term of rentability and popularity. Not yet.

Your talking about your personal opinion and not the facts! Pacman is not in the top 10 all time PPV attractions despite the fact that every boxing fan knows he is more exciting than Floyd. (Not a better fighter) Floyd is 4th on that list, fourth! that means that he has to be considered the biggest PPV fighter out at the moment. in my opinion Pacmans next fight will do huge numbers close to or over a million aswell but the fact with that is Cotto is a huge draw and so is pac. when Floyd fought Marquez he was the huge draw Marquez is no huge draw!! Mayweather can do a million now fighting anybody! he is a huge draw.

Cotto is not a huge draw and neither is Pac. Margarito/Cotto if I'm not mistaken did less than 500,000 ppv buys. Pac-Diaz did less than 200,000 ppv buys. The U.S. general public doesn't know who they are. Hell even quite a lot of US boxing fans don't even know who they are. They are seen as 2 foreign and unknown fighters. It's mainly hardcore boxing fans that know who they are.

[Nameless]

I agree with that apart from the last sentence. I do think right now he is the biggest star in terms of bringing 'casual' fans in, although the Pacquiao/Cotto fight will tell us a lot about how close he & Pac are in terms of doing that. I would certainly say Pac has a bigger hardcore fanbase, but I think their respective numbers against the same opponents show Floyd is the bigger 'draw'. I do think they are the only 2 currently transcending the sport in any way, although Cotto is not far off & I suspect he does the same should he beat Manny.

I am not sure Jaz, I think that Pacman has the hand over as well on the casual fan because of the excitement he smears all around, as it as been quoted below, I think that Floyd got a bit more excitement and used to sell a bit more because of the 24/7 and because of the way he got into rangeview with the WWE, Dancing with the stars etc. I still agree and am willing to admit that he drags more than what I wanted to say or think but still not enough to be compared to the Pacman in term of rentability and popularity. Not yet.

Your talking about your personal opinion and not the facts! Pacman is not in the top 10 all time PPV attractions despite the fact that every boxing fan knows he is more exciting than Floyd. (Not a better fighter) Floyd is 4th on that list, fourth! that means that he has to be considered the biggest PPV fighter out at the moment. in my opinion Pacmans next fight will do huge numbers close to or over a million aswell but the fact with that is Cotto is a huge draw and so is pac. when Floyd fought Marquez he was the huge draw Marquez is no huge draw!! Mayweather can do a million now fighting anybody! he is a huge draw.

First of all, can I know where do come from your numbers? Not that I call you a liar or something but when I get handed a huge list of numbers, I would like to know the source in order to see if they are viable, fictive or exaggerate so the source would be greatly appreciated.
Second, you cannot compare one second the number when Pacman fought Marquez and when he fought Mayweather as it is 2 VERY different situations: At the time, there has been no 24/7 to hype the fight and such tv shows are just SOOO much of a boost, would Pacman va Marquez been hyped that way, you can be 100% assured that the numbers would have been a lot bigger.
Third, If these numbers which you state are real and accurate, well, I just made a mistake and overlook Mayweather popularity or ability to drag peoples who want to see him lose and you won't ever see me saying Mayweather doesn't drag publicity and a crowd

[Beanflicker]

Very impressive, especially considering styles. The three guys ahead of him offer some of the most fan friendly styles in boxing history (with DLH and Tyson as vicious knockout artists, and Holyfield being a fight-to-the-death warrior).

Considering Floyd's consensus "boring" style, its pretty remarkable that he's in this class now.

As far as guys who can be potential future PPV stars, its impossible to tell. There are tons of guys out there who have fan-friendly styles and mainstream ability, but becoming a house hold name like these guys requires that certain spark, and obviously great marketing.

What we need is a charasmatic personality with great skills to come aroudn and knock the shit out of PBF.