Give the Klitschko's their just due

[El Kabong]

I don't think either Povetkin or Haye does anything to either Klitschko. I think in the next couple of years there maybe a return of former challengers to try their hand at beating the Klitschko's.

I have no idea who could seriously challenge Wlad or Vitali....old or young

[bikersk]

Agreed. Lewis did his best when he could. I doubt he could repeat that so any come back would be a disaster i'd reckon. Haye is yet to be tested and Povetkin would probably end up like Chris yesterday.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I've been giving Wlad his dues for some time now... Vitali, im still a a little reluctant cause of the whole emeritus b.s but that wasn't his doing i guess...

Both good fighters. I saw Vitali looking a bit uncomfortable when ever Arreola attacked from Vitali's left and i do wonder if a smarter fighter could elaborate on that but really, Vitali has more than superior ring generalship to anyone he's faced, ever.

[littlebif]

The Klitschko's are good fighters ,i dont like Wlad think he is boring but it works so there aint no point in putting him self in danger.I like watching Vitali tho think he is more comitted in trying to get his man out of there.

[Gandalf]

The Klitschko's are good fighters ,i dont like Wlad think he is boring but it works so there aint no point in putting him self in danger.I like watching Vitali tho think he is more comitted in trying to get his man out of there.

Same thoughts here. Wlad bores me with his jab, paw, jab style. It's enough to make me slip into a coma. I actually quite enjoy watching Vitali fight.

[Dark Lord Al]

Everybody talks about fighters from the past , like foreman , frazier etc but i fail to see how Vitali couldn't have competed with these guys , not to mention he is a monster size wise.

I personally think we dismiss modern HW fighters all to easily , fact is if sprinters and pole vaulters , hammer throwers , weight lifters are all getting faster and stronger respectively. Then how are this new breed of HW worse than the fighters before ?

PS/ there will always be the odd special fighter , but in general , we think Ken Norton for example is better than a David Tua ?

[BIG H]

Everybody talks about fighters from the past , like foreman , frazier etc but i fail to see how Vitali couldn't have competed with these guys , not to mention he is a monster size wise.

I personally think we dismiss modern HW fighters all to easily , fact is if sprinters and pole vaulters , hammer throwers , weight lifters are all getting faster and stronger respectively. Then how are this new breed of HW worse than the fighters before ?

PS/ there will always be the odd special fighter , but in general , we think Ken Norton for example is better than a David Tua ?

Norton has a claim to having beaten the 2 greatest HWs of all time. Lots of 'ifs and buts', but he certainly beat Ali once , maybe even 3 times and some (not me) think he beat Holmes. Could Tua have don ethat?

[DaxxKahn]

Agreed. Lewis did his best when he could. I doubt he could repeat that so any come back would be a disaster i'd reckon. Haye is yet to be tested and Povetkin would probably end up like Chris yesterday.

Lennox gave Vitali all he could handle then some, was winning the last 2 rounds before the stoppage, Lennox of 2 years earlier would have beaten either brother,,,,,,Lennox knew his time was up and to let the younger Brothers Grimm have their time....

Even if Haye has some success early I don't think he could deal with the constant jack hammer blows either Klitschko throws for too long...

A Klitschko jab is the average Hwts power punch,

[Taeth]

Agreed. Lewis did his best when he could. I doubt he could repeat that so any come back would be a disaster i'd reckon. Haye is yet to be tested and Povetkin would probably end up like Chris yesterday.

Lennox gave Vitali all he could handle then some, was winning the last 2 rounds before the stoppage, Lennox of 2 years earlier would have beaten either brother,,,,,,Lennox knew his time was up and to let the younger Brothers Grimm have their time....

Even if Haye has some success early I don't think he could deal with the constant jack hammer blows either Klitschko throws for too long...

A Klitschko jab is the average Hwts power punch,

My arguement is this, who would beat Lennox Lewis in the history of the heavyweight division? I don't rate Lennox as the best heavyweight ever, but I think he beats any other heavyweight in the history of the sport. He's too big, too fast, too coordinated, and he has shown that he does have fighitng spirit.

[Beanflicker]

My arguement is this, who would beat Lennox Lewis in the history of the heavyweight division? I don't rate Lennox as the best heavyweight ever, but I think he beats any other heavyweight in the history of the sport. He's too big, too fast, too coordinated, and he has shown that he does have fighitng spirit.

There are two guys I would pick against Lewis, and they are the same two guys I would pick against the Klitchko's.

Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes.

But I agree with your point.

Take Rocky Marciano for example. Consensus top 5 guy of all time, many consider him the greatest, and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that he would be DESTROYED by Lennox, Wlad or Vitali. Way too small.