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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boxer View Post
    How come when PBF fights a smaller guy everybody downs him for it. Yet nobody is downing Cotto for fighting PAC. last time i checked PAC was not a natural 147 pound fighter.

    I get sick of people talking this shit about PBF fighting smaller guys. The man started at 130 and has moved up in weight. So at some point PBF was the smaller guy in the ring. People act like he'd fought little guys his whole career. It's not even like he fought a bum little guy. He fought JMM who was considered by many to be atleast top 5 P4P. People act like he started his carear at 154. I remember before the Gatti fight(RIP) everyone was talking that shit about PBF wasn't going to be able to stand up to a true 140 pounder. Now all of a sudden PBF is a natural junior Middle weight. Before he fought Castilo DLH and Hatton people said that PBF was too small and or wouldn't be able to handle the pressure these fighters would put on him. Now all of a sudden people act like PBF is some gaint fighting midgets.

    Also how come a fighter is good until PBF beats them. Soon as PBF beat a guy people say the fighter is shot. Wasn't noboby saying JMM was shot before he got beat by PBF

    The funniest part of the whole situation is people say PBF should fight a natural welter weight like cotto or PAC. When the fuck did PAC become natural welter weight? Now when PBF beats PAC then the haters will say that PBF beat another little guy.

    If your gonna hate on a guy atleast be consitant.

    It's only a double standard if you ignore that fact that Pac has fought at this weight & higher before AND make Cotto come in below what he is regularly contracted to fight at AND forget that Mayweather couldn't be arsed to make weight. But please feel free to ignore all this. Most people do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Boxer View Post
    How come when PBF fights a smaller guy everybody downs him for it. Yet nobody is downing Cotto for fighting PAC. last time i checked PAC was not a natural 147 pound fighter.

    I get sick of people talking this shit about PBF fighting smaller guys. The man started at 130 and has moved up in weight. So at some point PBF was the smaller guy in the ring. People act like he'd fought little guys his whole career. It's not even like he fought a bum little guy. He fought JMM who was considered by many to be atleast top 5 P4P. People act like he started his carear at 154. I remember before the Gatti fight(RIP) everyone was talking that shit about PBF wasn't going to be able to stand up to a true 140 pounder. Now all of a sudden PBF is a natural junior Middle weight. Before he fought Castilo DLH and Hatton people said that PBF was too small and or wouldn't be able to handle the pressure these fighters would put on him. Now all of a sudden people act like PBF is some gaint fighting midgets.

    Also how come a fighter is good until PBF beats them. Soon as PBF beat a guy people say the fighter is shot. Wasn't noboby saying JMM was shot before he got beat by PBF

    The funniest part of the whole situation is people say PBF should fight a natural welter weight like cotto or PAC. When the fuck did PAC become natural welter weight? Now when PBF beats PAC then the haters will say that PBF beat another little guy.

    If your gonna hate on a guy atleast be consitant.

    It's only a double standard if you ignore that fact that Pac has fought at this weight & higher before AND make Cotto come in below what he is regularly contracted to fight at AND forget that Mayweather couldn't be arsed to make weight. But please feel free to ignore all this. Most people do.
    I hate the fact that Ricky F'in Hatton has given Pacquaio a free pass to use the excuse "He carries his weight up better" than JMM does.

    What a load of BS - Just because Ricky came into the ring like an idiot with no defence against the then P4P #1 and gets KO'd he automatically is good for the weight?

    Just because Freddie Roach organizes a bout with Oscar where he KNEW Oscar would be weak and weight drained (his words not mine - This is criminal IMO) - Pacquaio has carried his weight well to 147??

    How very convenient...Maybe the problem was that Pacquaio's opponents were nowhere near the level of Floyd Mayweather Jr? THAT is why Marquez could not carry his weight up well.

    I wonder how a 140lb fight between Marquez and Pac goes? I bet Marquez still schools him!

    One thing I can agree with you all on is that I'd like to see Mayweather challenge himself in just 1 welterweight fight against another elite welterweight - Then he can and should retire peaceful in the knowledge that he is not only an ATG (because he is already one) but an ATG that even the most avid hater can acknowledge.

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    Well Juan Manuel Marquez fought Casamayor and Juan Diaz at 135!!!!! Pacquiao straight BOMBED OUT Ricky Hatton, a guy moving up from 130 shouldn't have been able to do that to the TOP(or a top) Junior Welterweight no matter which way you look at it.

    Do you see any power punchers at 130 or even 135 who could blast out a top teir Junior Welter I don't.

    Pac gets praise because 1. He took a risk 2. He blew his competition out of the water....meanwhile Mayweather 1. Took a NAME 2. Took that name outside of his regular weightclass and 3. Couldn't even stop him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Well Juan Manuel Marquez fought Casamayor and Juan Diaz at 135!!!!! Pacquiao straight BOMBED OUT Ricky Hatton, a guy moving up from 130 shouldn't have been able to do that to the TOP(or a top) Junior Welterweight no matter which way you look at it.

    Do you see any power punchers at 130 or even 135 who could blast out a top teir Junior Welter I don't.


    Pac gets praise because 1. He took a risk 2. He blew his competition out of the water....meanwhile Mayweather 1. Took a NAME 2. Took that name outside of his regular weightclass and 3. Couldn't even stop him
    Edwin Valero? Antonio Pitalua? Jorge Linares? I'd give all of them a shot at blowing out some of the top of 140 pile.
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    ...Maybe, more than likely not though

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    I still want somebody to explain to me why it's ok for PBF to be the smaller guy in fights but never the bigger guy. when he moved up through the weight classes you all doubted his power, chin and strength. People were on here begging for him to fight hatton. I have the forum archive to prove it.

    will everybody just say that no matter who pbf beat we won't be happy because he's on top.

    This is what you all will say after future PBF fight

    If he beats pac. PAC Was a little guy.
    If he beats shane. Shane was old.
    If he beat cotto. Cotto was ruin by margarito.
    If he beats margarito. Margarito was overrated.

    Do ya'll want him to move up to 168 and fight in the super 6. I mean what the fuck do you all want?

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    To be honest "The Boxer" he kind of brings this on himself.

    #1 Floyd has never unified ergo he has left 2-3 seemingly deserving fighters in each division he's been in without giving them a fight. Some deserved a shot and some didn't but that's his choice to have a couple fights here, move up a couple fights there, and then move up again.

    #2 Floyd never gives anyone he fights against any credit until AFTER he beats them and for the most part he makes it look so easy we tend to agree more with his trash talking than when he makes a half assed attempt to be gracious in victory and touts the various skills of the defeated. RJJ never really talked about his opponents he talked about RJJ and how good he was and so the show was never about who Roy fought it was about HOW Roy fought therefore guys like Roy seem to get a pass on this.

    Floyd is just bad at marketing himself

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