Double Standards

[The Boxer]

How come when PBF fights a smaller guy everybody downs him for it. Yet nobody is downing Cotto for fighting PAC. last time i checked PAC was not a natural 147 pound fighter.

I get sick of people talking this shit about PBF fighting smaller guys. The man started at 130 and has moved up in weight. So at some point PBF was the smaller guy in the ring. People act like he'd fought little guys his whole career. It's not even like he fought a bum little guy. He fought JMM who was considered by many to be atleast top 5 P4P. People act like he started his carear at 154. I remember before the Gatti fight(RIP) everyone was talking that shit about PBF wasn't going to be able to stand up to a true 140 pounder. Now all of a sudden PBF is a natural junior Middle weight. Before he fought Castilo DLH and Hatton people said that PBF was too small and or wouldn't be able to handle the pressure these fighters would put on him. Now all of a sudden people act like PBF is some gaint fighting midgets.

Also how come a fighter is good until PBF beats them. Soon as PBF beat a guy people say the fighter is shot. Wasn't noboby saying JMM was shot before he got beat by PBF

The funniest part of the whole situation is people say PBF should fight a natural welter weight like cotto or PAC. When the fuck did PAC become natural welter weight? Now when PBF beats PAC then the haters will say that PBF beat another little guy.

If your gonna hate on a guy atleast be consitant.

[sumkalambay]

b/c it's obvious pac carries the weight extremely well.

pac looked fantastic against ODLH and hatton.

[El Kabong]

Well #1 Cotto will at least TRY to make the catch weight unlike Floyd #2 Pacquiao is more than likely going to be the favorite #3 Pacquiao has proven himself to be able to carry at least 140 with devistating KO power whereas JMM had proven he could gut out a win at 135 vs lackluster competition.

[knodaledge]

Because it's Mayweather and fans these days treat the sport like it's American Idol and base their decisions on hating or liking a fighter based on how his "personality" is.

No matter who Mayweather fights, he's going to be leaps and bounds ahead of them in terms of skill. So no matter what, they'll find a reason to discredit the win. He's too big, then he's too fast, etc.

We just got to accept that no matter what he does, he'll be discredited by those who hate them. Haters are going to hate no matter what. It's no problem to me. I just laugh and watch him make their favorite fighters look stupid.

[El Kabong]

Mayweather is talented as hell....I just wish he'd test himself vs other fighters the way guys like Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong et al did....those guys sought out the best and tried to prove themselves vs the very best and sometimes they were at a disadvantage and sometimes they lost or got dodgey decisions, but they tested themselves and they strived to prove to themselves and most importantly to the boxing fans that they were the best.

Floyd just bullied a great Featherweight, that is all

[Kel]

Mayweather is talented as hell....I just wish he'd test himself vs other fighters the way guys like Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong et al did....those guys sought out the best and tried to prove themselves vs the very best and sometimes they were at a disadvantage and sometimes they lost or got dodgey decisions, but they tested themselves and they strived to prove to themselves and most importantly to the boxing fans that they were the best.

Floyd just bullied a great Featherweight, that is all

That is my beef with him, that's all it comes down to! That's why he will never be a great fighter in my eyes, he has never done great things or tested himself. He was with HBO getting his arse kissed for so many years that people seem to believe it all.

[El Kabong]

For you Mayweather fans, that's all this "hate" boils down to...the average boxing fan just wants to see the best fighter out there pushed to be great....he obviously hasn't done it for himself so if we don't pat him on the back for the JMM fight then maybe he'll eventually fight someone dangerous or someone who's size and power puts him at a disadvantage

[sumkalambay]

Mayweather is talented as hell....I just wish he'd test himself vs other fighters the way guys like Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong et al did....those guys sought out the best and tried to prove themselves vs the very best and sometimes they were at a disadvantage and sometimes they lost or got dodgey decisions, but they tested themselves and they strived to prove to themselves and most importantly to the boxing fans that they were the best.

Floyd just bullied a great Featherweight, that is all

That is my beef with him, that's all it comes down to! That's why he will never be a great fighter in my eyes, he has never done great things or tested himself. He was with HBO getting his arse kissed for so many years that people seem to believe it all.

dude he annihilated the 130 division and gave out a boxing lesson to Corrales at the age of 24.

he's an ATG at SFW. not to mention, hell of a lot more entertaining at that weight.

[knodaledge]

For you Mayweather fans, that's all this "hate" boils down to...the average boxing fan just wants to see the best fighter out there pushed to be great....he obviously hasn't done it for himself so if we don't pat him on the back for the JMM fight then maybe he'll eventually fight someone dangerous or someone who's size and power puts him at a disadvantage

And if he's never tested?

What if Mayweather is just way better than everyone else?

I mean, he took almost 2 years off, came back and made the #2 guy look like a complete amateur. I understand weight difference, but to totally outclass a world ranked champion like that? In such a devastating fashion? Just about pitching a complete shut out across the scorecards?

I'm sorry, but that isn't only weight/height/reach difference. That is pure raw skill displayed at it's finest.

And i'm inclined to believe that he can do that against just about anyone.

There is nobody i see in boxing today (that could potentially have a match with Mayweather) that could rival his skill. I understand there are guys that are bigger, stronger, closer to his size. But there is nobody who is touching his skill. Nobody who shows they have what it takes, in terms of pure skill, to beat him.

Its like this: If Usain Bolt shatters a world record, that nobody else can even come close to, but he did it on a track running by himself, I don't need to see him race 1-on-1 against every other runner to know that he is the fastest man alive.

[Kel]

Mayweather is talented as hell....I just wish he'd test himself vs other fighters the way guys like Ray Leonard, Roberto Duran, Tommy Hearns, Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong et al did....those guys sought out the best and tried to prove themselves vs the very best and sometimes they were at a disadvantage and sometimes they lost or got dodgey decisions, but they tested themselves and they strived to prove to themselves and most importantly to the boxing fans that they were the best.

Floyd just bullied a great Featherweight, that is all

That is my beef with him, that's all it comes down to! That's why he will never be a great fighter in my eyes, he has never done great things or tested himself. He was with HBO getting his arse kissed for so many years that people seem to believe it all.

dude he annihilated the 130 division and gave out a boxing lesson to Corrales at the age of 24.

he's an ATG at SFW. not to mention, hell of a lot more entertaining at that weight.

I give him credit for what he did below 140 check out any Floyd thread I posted in regarding this. You say he is an all time great at super feather.....what about the rest of the divisions he has fought in? You can't just say "He is an ATG at SFW" how does that work?

[sumkalambay]

That is my beef with him, that's all it comes down to! That's why he will never be a great fighter in my eyes, he has never done great things or tested himself. He was with HBO getting his arse kissed for so many years that people seem to believe it all.

dude he annihilated the 130 division and gave out a boxing lesson to Corrales at the age of 24.

he's an ATG at SFW. not to mention, hell of a lot more entertaining at that weight.

I give him credit for what he did below 140 check out any Floyd thread I posted in regarding this. You say he is an all time great at super feather.....what about the rest of the divisions he has fought in? You can't just say "He is an ATG at SFW" how does that work?

he isn't one of the greats at WW, that's for sure. neither was Duran who cemented his legacy at 135.

there's a clear difference between the safety-first PBF of the recent years to the slick boxer-puncher PBF at 130 and 135. and in resume. he cemented his legacy at 130 by cleaning out the division and handing out top-class performances consistently.

[jamiebhoy]

Cotto doesn't act like a DICK and will try and make the weight less of an issue by coming in within the allowable range, none of the fuck it attitude of PBF, here's the money I will weigh what i like.

[C-Lo]

I'm just going to answer the double standard question.

Floyd fought someone whose last fight was at 135.

Cotto is about to fight someone whose last two fights were at 140 and 147. Not only this but he will fight Pac at a catchweight. He will get criticized if he comes overweight, but that's still waiting to happen. Floyd on the other hand, came two pounds over the contracted limit against someone who is fighting two classes heavier than his highest weight.

Plus, like many others have said, Pacquiao's speed and power are still there so it's a much more credible fight.

[El Kabong]

And if he's never tested?

What if Mayweather is just way better than everyone else?

I mean, he took almost 2 years off, came back and made the #2 guy look like a complete amateur. I understand weight difference, but to totally outclass a world ranked champion like that? In such a devastating fashion? Just about pitching a complete shut out across the scorecards?

I'm sorry, but that isn't only weight/height/reach difference. That is pure raw skill displayed at it's finest.

And i'm inclined to believe that he can do that against just about anyone.

There is nobody i see in boxing today (that could potentially have a match with Mayweather) that could rival his skill. I understand there are guys that are bigger, stronger, closer to his size. But there is nobody who is touching his skill. Nobody who shows they have what it takes, in terms of pure skill, to beat him.

Its like this: If Usain Bolt shatters a world record, that nobody else can even come close to, but he did it on a track running by himself, I don't need to see him race 1-on-1 against every other runner to know that he is the fastest man alive.

If Mayweather is "just better than everyone else" then he's going to have to figure out something special to do. He's NEVER unified a division, how about he do that?

If Wladimir Klitschko fought Bernard Hopkins I doubt we'd see much of a fair fight but that's essentially what Floyd's last fight was.

Sure Floyd has plenty of skill, but let's put it this way, if I was a track fan and I got to watch Usain Bolt, I don't want to watch him JOG because he's racing guys that were drug out of a bar or guys who are college track stars, I want to see him set a World Record vs Tyson Gay and whoever the hell else is a top sprinter.

This isn't a one time only deal in the history of boxing, guys sometimes have to do crazy stuff to catch the attention of the fans...what if Floyd fought Kelly Pavlik?? I would sure as hell give him credit for that!!! Why because it's a DANGEROUS FIGHT and Floyd is at a height, reach, weight disadvantage and he would be forced to use his skill and we would see what he truly has.

[Rantcatrat]

How come when PBF fights a smaller guy everybody downs him for it. Yet nobody is downing Cotto for fighting PAC. last time i checked PAC was not a natural 147 pound fighter.

I get sick of people talking this shit about PBF fighting smaller guys. The man started at 130 and has moved up in weight. So at some point PBF was the smaller guy in the ring. People act like he'd fought little guys his whole career. It's not even like he fought a bum little guy. He fought JMM who was considered by many to be atleast top 5 P4P. People act like he started his carear at 154. I remember before the Gatti fight(RIP) everyone was talking that shit about PBF wasn't going to be able to stand up to a true 140 pounder. Now all of a sudden PBF is a natural junior Middle weight. Before he fought Castilo DLH and Hatton people said that PBF was too small and or wouldn't be able to handle the pressure these fighters would put on him. Now all of a sudden people act like PBF is some gaint fighting midgets.

Also how come a fighter is good until PBF beats them. Soon as PBF beat a guy people say the fighter is shot. Wasn't noboby saying JMM was shot before he got beat by PBF

The funniest part of the whole situation is people say PBF should fight a natural welter weight like cotto or PAC. When the fuck did PAC become natural welter weight? Now when PBF beats PAC then the haters will say that PBF beat another little guy.

If your gonna hate on a guy atleast be consitant.

To your first point, Cotto has fought pretty much every other top welterweight in the division: Shane, Margarito, Clottey, Quintana etc. He gets a pass if he wants to fight the p4p #2 fighter in the world for a lot of money and he happens to be smaller.

PBF had a great career before he began fighting above 140, anyone who disputes that is wrong. Since he has fought above 140, it hasn't been exceptional. Shane, Cotto, and Margarito have done more at welterweight than Floyd has in the same amount of time.

It's not like the criticism on Floyd is new. There has been the same criticism since before the DLF fight.

PBF is great, of course. Hopefully, he challenges himself and fights Cotto, Mosley, and Pwill. No one will say jack.